Posted on 09/21/2004 8:24:29 PM PDT by GIJoel
You post Novak's opinion of what Bush is doing, and I posted a direct quote from Bush which contradicts Novak's opinion of what Bush thinks...Novak isn't a communist, he's simply wrong.
By the way, if Muslims are evil because they murder children, what have you to say about the million unborn we murder yearly, sacrificed to the God of "reproductive choice"?
If the murder of children is the measure of evil, we are unspeakable monsters in the US.
Ahh Louis, I take it back, it's not Neocons or Wahhibies, it must be socialists since all three papers/news sites you quote are left of left. How about: Star, Fox, Russia Journal? There, 3 right wing papers for a right form. If what you quote is lefters to defend yourself, you have no foundation to stand on. Not here, but DU Underground would love you. They all worship those 3 whores of communism. There you would find common, surrender monkey to terror ground. Have fun and send a post card.
My quote pertains to the reporting of the presence of tanks in the battle...it was reported by PRO-PUTIN PUBLICATIONS.
Putin is left of left, he's a communist, and his own State-controlled publication, Pravda, reported the tanks at the school.
DU supports Putin, as you support Putin.
Please define communism and socialism and then show how Putin's actions are taking Russia into that direction. Please define republicanism vs autocracy and capitalism. So many freepers throw around terms without any connetation to their meaning. You do realize that an autocratic state is not a communist state. You do realize that capitalism can live just fine in an autocratic state? Do you have any CURRENT facts on the economic changes of the past 5 years (now that the friends of Gore that the Neocons so love are gone) that have taken place?
Well, I provided proof of their presence from Putin's own State-controlled paper as well as other strong pro-Putin publications...they support him because he's a communist and they're leftists, and they reported the presence of the tanks.
Keep up with the argument, or go stand on the sidelines with the amateurs.
Let's get Jeff in here, then you can tell him that he's a Islamicist shill to his face yourself, shall we?
You've just quite possibly exposed this site to a slander and defamation of character suit from both Mr. Jacoby, and the Boston Globe.
I think that you either have to provide proof of your accusation or retract the statement.
"You do realize that an autocratic state is not a communist state. You do realize that capitalism can live just fine in an autocratic state? Do you have any CURRENT facts on the economic changes of the past 5 years (now that the friends of Gore that the Neocons so love are gone) that have taken place?"
This sounds like Carville "It's the ECONOMY stupid"....
Big problem it is not about "capitalism vs. communism".
The base definition of what "communism" really means and the exact opposite is what gets called "capitalism".
Words mean things and part of the problem is the perversion of the meaning of words.... I can say this cause I know what is commonly taught in elementary school about "communism" vs. "capitalism" and it is a complete distortion.
Which groups and with what? Backed up facts please.
One correction..."...the people voted freely...", past tense.
Putin just suspended elections for governors in Russia, is appointing members to the Duma along Party lines, and is looking for ways to remain in power past his term, against the Russian Constitution, and without having to be re-elected.
It's not that I'm a liar, it's that you're sadly misinformed.
Which Red Army? The one surrounded by NATO in Europe, Central Asia and Caucusis? US spends more on defense then the rest of the world combined. We've hit more countries in the past 10 years then anyone else and are in 120+ countries and you are paranoid of the Red Army? Wow, talk about delusions.
People fail to understand one very basic notion...totalitarianism arising in Russia as a pretext to fighting Islamic terrorists does not give us an ally in the War on Terror...it adds an enemy.
In a sense it can be true - Lincoln centralized power in order to make USA a stronger, united nation. Same thing was done by De Gaulle when he created the Fifth Republic.
The democratic system which emerged in Russia after the breakup of Soviet Union was chaotic and organized in a haphazard way. First few years were filled with spontaneous grass-root activities what was terminated by the Yeltsin massacre of the Parliament at the request of his Western sponsors.
After that the economical reforms were pushed against wishes of the population - the national assetts were distributed among organized crime, corrupt officials and Western "investors". This was proclaimed by the Western corporate media as the triumph of democracy because it enabled Yugoslavia style breakup and looting of Russia.
The NATO war on Serbia followed by Islamic invasion of Dagestan was a wake up call for Russians. Present leadership is RESTORING democracy following more solid and better adjusted strong presidential model similar to the De Gaulle design of the Fifth Republic.
Those who think that more decentralisation/directness is always better for democracy (BTW, in many democratic countries local executives are appointed by the central government, even without approval of local legislature as Putin's plan intends) do not understand the basic principles of republican system.
The ideal according to the radical decentralists would be a DIRECT democracy like in ancient Athens. Such system is possible ONLY in the very small society, (even in Athens only a minority of the men was allowed or able to vote on all issues). In a large country the large degree of delegated representation and centralisation is being forced by the necessities of political life. In multiethnic countries with local conflicts the strong central government is a must.
You can have centralised government with democracy and rule of law on one hand, and you can have corrupt local governments with local bullies and not much freedom.
Russia has to find her own way - foreign "friends" and advisors will follow foreign interests only as they did during "privatization" after Yeltsin "democratic" massacre of Duma.
Problem is: what you confront most people with is not new or startling but disproven conspiratorial junk. Do you still await the Russian/Soviet/Uliminati/Alien invasion on Y2K or is it now Y2K+10?
Just FYI I live about 1/2 north of Rachel Corrie land. You don't know anything about these people. To dismiss her as a stupid young woman who thought she was helping out is to show your own ignorance.
I don't know where you live, but here in the Pacific Northwest, people like Rachel Corrie and her ilk are exactly the communists you and your friends keep looking for in all the wrong places.
It's the ultimate sadness in this group of yours, that the real enemy is probably here beneath your own noses and you think you have to go overseas and accuse a high-profile president and his bumbling secret service agents.
Financing HAMAS is not an overseas operation.
And following in the foorsteps of Italy, who also chose strong centralization and appointment of regional leaders to fight corruption and mafia.
You mean she wasn't Jewish? A non-Jewish liberal, I'm shocked.
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