Skip to comments.Putin: Ally or Terrorist? (Russian FSB/KGB Real Culprits Behind "Chechen Terrorism")
Posted on 09/21/2004 8:24:29 PM PDT by GIJoel
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AMEN MR. GONZALEZ!!!
Jacoby is a Kerry supporter now?
Settle in for the long fight, they'll be here soon.
Yep Golitsyn nailed it. Some of you are so trapped in your closed minds you failed to take note of one of the most important points in the article. Namely, Golitsyn's analysis lead him to the following conclusions:
I don't buy ANY of this nonsense. I guess you think the Russians blew up that school and killed those children, right?
I think the Russians may have admitted to blowing up the school.
The roof was blown by the tanks as far as I've been able to gather, I don't know that the terrorists' bombs ever went off.
In the case of the theater in Moscow, 177 out of the 178 hostages killed died from the gas used by the FSB.
One was shot to death by someone.
I know they deliberately targeted and butchered those teachers and kids in Beslan. I know they use their own children for human shields and human bombs to kill Jewish kids on buses in Israel. I know they come to live in our country and fly planes into buildings and kill thousands of innocent men, women and children.
No I don't know about Putin but I have seen Islam and it's followers and what their plan for humanity is with my own eyes.
If Putin will deal with this vermin that follows the teachings of Mohammad I'll cheer him on.
I lived through the cold war and as bad as the Russians where I don't remember any of the western worlds children and citizens being indiscriminately slaughtered by Russian suicide bombers.
Islamic beasts have been trying to convince us that they will not live on the same the planet with anybody but their own. Well, they've convinced me.
No more benefit of the doubt from me. If you follow the teachings of Mohammad or the Koran you are the enemy of all I believe in. Period.
Yep. I do. They have carried out many such murderous operations against their own (imprisoned) people over the last 70+ years.
Was it a Russian terrorist, or a Chechen terrorist?
As far as the theatre was concerned, yes it was Russian gas, but the terrorists were killed.
Putin is not as concerned with killing innocent civilians. If we weren't, the Iraq war would be over.
Putin needs to tie the war in Chechnya to our world-wide war on terror; I don't buy it because it isn't the same by a long shot.
That was then. If they are now killing Islamist terrorists, they are doing the Lord's work.
I suggest you read "We Are The Next Target" and "Terrorists In Muslim Disguise" threads before you start blaming everything on Islam. Don't comment right away, go read them. You will find them posted at the following two links:
The most accurate report on the events always say the same thing, that an explosion was heard, presumably from a terrorist bomb. That has never been confirmed.
You will however find confirmation, in both the Russian and American press, of Russian troops blowing a hole in the Gymnasium wall, and killing many hostages.
They been killing Chechens for over four hundred years sink...whose work was being done before now?
"'All those shining towers,' he said, gesturing at the Manhattan skyline, 'they look so strong, so tall, but they're just a house of cards. A few explosions in the right places and do svidaniya [goodbye]. We're only beginning to realize how vulnerable this country really is.'" (A KGB "wet affairs" operative in the fall of 1965; taken from Shevchenko, Arkady: "Breaking With Moscow," 1985, p. 335)
As for the Russian school, what you've read differs from what I've read.
Birchers are always seeing Russian communists behind every bush. Always. You goofballs never change.
"But the official version is contradicted by many eyewitnesses and former hostages. According to the newspaper "Izvestiya," whose reporter interviewed one of the emergency staffers who drove up to the school in the minutes before the siege was broken, there were no initial explosions.
He said someone -- he does not know who -- opened fire from outside the school, at which point the militants fired back. Then came the explosions. Other witnesses suggest the initial gunfire might have come from among the crowd of parents and relatives waiting outside the school. Some say the explosions were actually Russian tank fire, which blew off part of the school's roof.
Moscow-based military analyst Pavel Felgenhauer also doubts the Kremlin's version of an unplanned, last-minute decision to storm the school, saying the appearance of attack helicopters points to a coordinated, pre-planned move.
"Although there is an air base near Beslan, I know how much time it takes to transmit instructions to pilots. Even if the helicopter was fueled, armed, and waiting, and the pilots were already suited up -- if it had been a spontaneous decision -- they would have had to wait for instructions. An order would have had to be given. They would have had to get aboard, to warm up the engine. They could not have made it to the school in less than half an hour or even more," Felgenhauer said." -- Source.
It's nutty as hell, but you're entitled to be nutty once in a while.
I'm no bircher, and I am a little surprised at your comment.
Use whatever "ism" you want to use, but Putin has centralized power, suspended democratic elections, and is working on extending his term in office beyond what's constitutionally allowed.
If it looks like a Chavez...
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