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CBS Producer Under Fire [SeeBS giving Mape's to the wolves]
SeeBS News ^ | Sept. 22, 2004 9:41am ET | CBS/AP

Posted on 09/22/2004 6:57:28 AM PDT by johnny7

(CBS/AP) The fallout from CBS's doomed story about President Bush's National Guard service most endangers a woman few viewers know but who played a key role in two of the biggest television stories of the year. Mary Mapes, a veteran producer at CBS News, reported most of the National Guard story, including obtaining the documents CBS now says it can't authenticate. She also passed on the phone number of her source, former Texas National Guard officer Bill Burkett, to the Kerry campaign.

Burkett has acknowledged that he lied about the source of the documents, which purported to show lapses in Mr. Bush's Guard service in 1972, when he is known to have missed a physical and transferred to an Alabama unit to work on a campaign there. Mapes, 48, was described by colleagues on Tuesday as a dogged and talented journalist who made no secret of her liberal political beliefs. She's only a few months removed from a career-defining highlight. Mapes took a story that had received little attention — the abuse of prisoners by American soldiers in Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison — and unearthed the photos that gave the story its visceral impact. "She pursued stories very aggressively always," said Jeff Fager, executive producer of 60 Minutes. "She definitely has an investigative sense. She was responsible for the bulk of the work on Abu Ghraib. That was her story."

The Dallas-based producer, who declined through a spokeswoman to talk with The Associated Press, also landed the first TV interviews with Strom Thurmond's biracial daughter and Hillary Rodham Clinton after her husband's impeachment. Mapes was almost jailed in 1999 for refusing a judge's order to turn over a videotape of Dan Rather's interview with a white man convicted of killing a black man by dragging him behind a pickup truck. She worked at Seattle's KIRO-TV before coming to CBS in 1989. In the 60 Minutes tradition, producers like Mapes wield tremendous influence on the stories and operate with a great deal of independence — a status earned after many years of proving themselves, Fager said. John Carlson, a former commentator at KIRO-TV who is host of a conservative radio talk show in Seattle, remembers Mapes as a talented producer with whom he often argued politics in the newsroom. Mapes was "quite liberal" and disliked the current President Bush's father, he said. "She definitely was someone who was motivated by what she cared about and definitely went into journalism to make a difference," Carlson said. "She's not the sort of person who went into journalism to report the news and offer an array of commentary." Carlson spoke with Mapes about the National Guard story a week ago, and said that he believes she "put so much time into it that she wanted something to come of it." "This was a woman with a good reputation," he said. "The mistakes she made were so obvious. This was a story that was rushed because they clearly believed it was true. They wanted it to be true."

Rather acknowledged Monday that Burkett didn't come to CBS. The network approached him about the documents, knowing he had been trying for several years to discredit Mr. Bush's military service record, he said. In a USA Today story, Burkett said he agreed to turn documents impugning Mr. Bush's service — widely considered now to be fake — over to CBS on the condition CBS would help arrange a conversation with the Kerry campaign. Burkett's lawyer, Gabe Quintanilla, said he could not immediately confirm that Tuesday. CBS acknowledged Mapes passed on Burkett's number to Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart, and Lockhart called him. Spokeswoman Kelli Edwards said CBS wasn't aware that this was part of any deal, but it's one of the things that will be examined by an independent commission CBS will soon appoint to look into the incident. "It is obviously against CBS News standards and those of every other reputable news organization to be associated with any political agenda," Edwards said. It was a lapse in journalistic ethics if true, said Marvin Kalb, senior fellow at Harvard University's Joan Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy. "Journalists do all kinds of odd things these days to get a news story," Kalb said, "but one of the things they should not be doing is paying the price of a political contact."

It's particularly damaging when news coverage is being scrutinized by both sides of a bitter political divide, said Frank Sesno, former CNN Washington bureau chief and professor at George Mason University. Even before this story, Rather and CBS News were targets of groups concerned about an anti-Republican bias in the media. The Lockhart contact "is going to cast more doubt on not just the practices, but the motives behind the story," Sesno said. "She's done many, many solid stories in her career," Fager said. "How this went so horribly wrong is a mystery to many of us and I look forward to hearing the details."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: planetofthemapes; stainedbluememo
"She's not the sort of person who went into journalism to report the news and offer an array of commentary."

Yeah... Joe Goebbel's felt the same way.

1 posted on 09/22/2004 6:57:29 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: johnny7

 

 

2 posted on 09/22/2004 7:02:16 AM PDT by Fintan (Oh...am I supposed to read the article???)
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To: johnny7
Fager said, "How this went so horribly wrong is a mystery to many of us and I look forward to hearing the details."

Horribly wrong? Ah yes, what one says when was has been CAUGHT.

3 posted on 09/22/2004 7:04:24 AM PDT by sturmde
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To: johnny7
Fager said, "How this went so horribly wrong is a mystery to many of us and I look forward to hearing the details."

Horribly wrong? Ah yes, what one says when ONE has been CAUGHT.

4 posted on 09/22/2004 7:05:00 AM PDT by sturmde
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To: johnny7

When I was in college, we were involved in some charity work and 60 minutes II came down to do a story on us. Turns out they never did the story, we were just backup. I remember them talking about how they wanted to cover us because we were 'making a difference' and that that was why they went into journalism. I remember a common theme they had was 'doing good' and 'exposing wrongs in our society'.

We spent a good deal of time with them and they were very nice people, but even then I remembered thinking they were very agenda driven. I was thinking, "wait a sec, I thought 60 minutes was an investigative reporting show, not an advocacy group". This was back when I was a lib myself so go figure...

It is a shame cuz all these 'good deeds' they try to do often hurt the very people they are trying to help. The best example is welfare, which I did a study on:
www.neoperspective.com/welfare.htm


5 posted on 09/22/2004 7:06:40 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/smallbusiness.htm)
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To: johnny7

Mapes is going to take the fall to protect Rather, and to deflect attention from the Dimocratic Party connection.

Wonder if she'll still stonewall for Rather once she's been branded a liar and put out on the street?


6 posted on 09/22/2004 7:07:09 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Fintan

THE DOCUMENT ISSUE IS DEALT WITH, FINISH THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN FOR dnCBS... THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE IN THE PRESS EVERYWHERE AND IT WILL FINISH dnCBS

The other issues expose HOW THE MEDIA WING OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY ACTUALLY WORKS! CBS' "gold standard" included:

1. The widow and son were IGNORED
2. Document experts were IGNORED
3. Hodges was MISLED
4. The old secretary was NOT INTERVIEWED until afterward
5. Staudt, who had his character attacked in one memo, was never contacted
6. The opinions of the experts were MISREPRESENTED
7. The swift boat veterans were MALIGNED
8. George Bush's roomate DURING HIS GUARD YEARS, who AGREED TO SPEAK TO THEM WAS TURNED DOWN BECAUSE HE WAS TOO "PRO BUSH"...

And the list goes on. Fact is, this was a HIT PIECE ON BUSH. And just because dnCBS owns up to fake documents does NOT CLEAR THEIR PROPAGANDA / DNC REPORTING!!


7 posted on 09/22/2004 7:08:44 AM PDT by woodb01 (Take out the 'dnC'BS "news" trash... Make dnCBS EXTINCT)
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To: johnny7
Rather acknowledged Monday that Burkett didn't come to CBS. The network approached him about the documents, knowing he had been trying for several years to discredit Mr. Bush's military service record, he said.

1. How, oh how, did CBS know to go to the one man in America who had these documents? The Dems are up to their necks in this. I hope it all comes out by November 2.

2. I'm sure this isn't the only time Mapes has abused her position. It's just the first time this liberal hack has been exposed.

8 posted on 09/22/2004 7:09:57 AM PDT by Semi Civil Servant (Edward R. Murrow, call your office.)
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To: johnny7
I think that freeper protest at CBS might do the trick.

hope alot of you show up.
9 posted on 09/22/2004 7:12:20 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Semi Civil Servant

That woman, who Can't Understand Normal Thinking, was also the producer of Dan Rather's 1988 slander of Vietnam veterans called "The Wall Within". They used fake 'veterans' to make their case that all Vietnam veterans were messed up. B.G. Burkett and ABC's 20/20 won an award for debunking CBS's garbage 'reporting'.


10 posted on 09/22/2004 7:18:44 AM PDT by Bob
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To: Redbob

CNN will pick her up.


11 posted on 09/22/2004 7:27:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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burkett must not be too loopy if he knew enough to get a new lawyer and not bank on van os putting his interests above the dnc


12 posted on 09/22/2004 7:44:06 AM PDT by jer2911tx (john kerry doesn't like rice, or as he calls it 'weapons of ass destruction')
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

"CNN will pick her up."

Moveon.org will pick her up.


13 posted on 09/22/2004 8:05:06 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information given to society and you control society.)
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To: johnny7
Viacom owner of CBS: MTV Running Ad Saying Kids Will Be Drafted!!"

Viacom lie debunked here on Snopes.com








14 posted on 09/22/2004 8:39:48 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (What did Dan Rather know, and when did he know it?)
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To: Bob
Very sly, you dog. I caught that. I like it.
15 posted on 09/22/2004 8:48:56 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just because you are not paranoid, doesn't mean those two people behind you aren't following you)
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To: Bob

When you say she Can't Understand Normal Thinking, do you suppose she also Communicated Objective Criticism Knowingly Subvervise, Unexpectedly Crippling Kerry Edwards Resurrection?


16 posted on 09/22/2004 12:09:56 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Because If That's Correct, Hooray!


17 posted on 09/22/2004 12:11:29 PM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: johnny7

Women and minorities hardest hit.


18 posted on 09/22/2004 12:13:20 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Semi Civil Servant
How, oh how, did CBS know to go to the one man in America who had these documents?

Max Cleland. It goes like this: Burkett went to Cleland, then Cleland went to CBS, then CBS went to Burkett.

19 posted on 09/22/2004 12:23:03 PM PDT by Bloodclot
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To: Bloodclot

Forgot to mention that Cleland is the "unimpeachable source" that Rather was talking about.


20 posted on 09/22/2004 12:25:40 PM PDT by Bloodclot
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To: johnny7
Mapes took a story that had received little attention — the abuse of prisoners by American soldiers in Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison — and unearthed the photos that gave the story its visceral impact.

Right. She "unearthed" the photos.

The woman is an accomplice to the dems and that's plain to see. I have no problem with her being thrown to any wolves, nor do I see her as a "fallguy". She will face consequences but she won't be the only one as far as this matter goes.

21 posted on 09/22/2004 12:38:40 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Redbob
Mapes is going to take the fall to protect Rather, and to deflect attention from the Dimocratic Party connection.

Are you taking the stance that Mapes is not complicit and culpable in this fraud? She is and is not "taking a fall".

And don't worry your head about Rather being protected just because this wench is made to answer for what she has been doing.

Nothing personal, but I am getting fed up with all this "taking the fall" and "scapegoat" nonsense as if Mapes is being accused of something she did not do.

22 posted on 09/22/2004 12:41:49 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Redbob

They are both done, and they both know it. What is being negotiated now are terms of their retirement.

Dan is a stinking pile of buried secrets. CBS can't waste him or the book he'll write will make Goldberg's look like my 2 year old's Seuss books. Rather's tell-all will be his pension, and he'll 'wreck CBS to save it.'

Mapes is done because she's expendable. If she tells all, who cares, they will squish her like a bug.

CBS isn't stupid. They know they have to cut him loose, the question today is how.


23 posted on 09/22/2004 12:43:23 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (War is the remedy our enemies have chosen. And I say let us give them all they want)
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To: cyncooper

Right! Mapes deserves to be fired, but so does Rather. Neither of them could have pulled this off without the cooperation of the other. Both are partisan leftist ideologues. Both have a history of searching for scandals that will sink Republicans while turning a blind eye to more serious crimes that would harm Democrats. They spent five years, which is an incredible amount of time, trying to find dirt on President Bush on this issue. Yet they showed no interest in the Sandy Berger scandal, the fully documented Swiftvet allegations, and so forth.

Mapes is in more trouble than Rather only because she's unknown to the general public, so she can be fired and the public CBS "icon" Dan Rather can be presented as being a "victim" of a bad story unearthed by others. Only time will tell if it works.


24 posted on 09/22/2004 12:49:30 PM PDT by puroresu
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Right! Mapes deserves to be fired, but so does Rather

That was my point. People keep saying this like one precludes the other.

I thought I was crystal clear so I don't understand why you felt the need to argue a position like the obvious one above.

25 posted on 09/22/2004 1:03:22 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: puroresu
Mapes is in more trouble than Rather

And with all due respect, that is an absurd statement. Anybody can see Rather is in heap big trouble. I do not perceive Mapes as in "more" trouble.

26 posted on 09/22/2004 1:04:41 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Bloodclot
Forgot to mention that Cleland is the "unimpeachable source" that Rather was talking about.

So, "unimpeachable" is liberalese for "lost at playing 'hot potato' with hand grenades?"

27 posted on 09/22/2004 1:06:53 PM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: johnny7

She will resign within 2 weeks with an undisclosed retirement package (i.e. $$$$$$$$$). She will then write a book about how evil and dangerous the Right is. All in all she will come out ahead on this.


28 posted on 09/22/2004 1:11:45 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Hold on to your hats.....it's going to be a bumpy night")
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To: cyncooper
Nothing personal, but I am getting fed up with all this "taking the fall" and "scapegoat" nonsense as if Mapes is being accused of something she did not do.

Perhaps a better way to phrase this would be to say that CBS is trying to ensure that the blood trail ends at Mapes' office. Time will tell if their efforts will pay off. A lot of MSM outlets have slammed Rather and CBS, calling for investigations, Rather's firing, etc. But will they keep the pressure on, or will they now try to say it's time to "move on"?

29 posted on 09/22/2004 1:11:56 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: cyncooper

#####I thought I was crystal clear so I don't understand why you felt the need to argue a position like the obvious one above.#####


Nor do I understand why you're so impolite to people who do nothing more than mildly engage you in discussion. This is a message board, after all.


30 posted on 09/22/2004 1:17:26 PM PDT by puroresu
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To: puroresu

Impolite? I? I don't think so.

:)


31 posted on 09/22/2004 1:29:17 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: johnny7

I'd like to see Mapes buried and barred from the networks.

She's no journalist. She's a rabid liberal whose young enough, and vicious enough, to do a lot of harm to the Conservatives.


32 posted on 09/22/2004 3:23:22 PM PDT by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: cyncooper

I do wish you'd mind your manners. LOL

Seriously, as bad as rathergate is, it doesn't compare to the harm that evil woman did to our military. Normal channels were handling it, but she made it out like higher-ups were encouraging and condoning it.

I'll bet if Mapes had been there, she would have been the FIRST with whips and chains.


33 posted on 09/22/2004 5:46:53 PM PDT by JudyB1938 ("A paranoid schizophrenic is somebody who just found out what's going on." - Wm S. Burroughs, Jr.)
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To: JudyB1938
Interesting observation. She does seem to have a thing about prisons:

New Mapes Bombshell!

34 posted on 09/22/2004 5:51:08 PM PDT by cyncooper
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