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US expert sketches nightmare nuclear terrorist attack on major city
AFP ^ | Wed, Sep 22, 2004

Posted on 09/22/2004 10:06:51 AM PDT by Area Freeper

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1 posted on 09/22/2004 10:06:52 AM PDT by Area Freeper
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"A nuclear device going off in any large city around the globe is going to kill millions of people," she said.

This is just exaggerated BS. Unless the terrorist got a hold of a megaton-sized city-buster (I highly doubt they could build a thermnuclear fission weapon), the numbers would be far less than this. It would be awful, but not millions.

2 posted on 09/22/2004 10:10:21 AM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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Still, it is my firm belief that if John Forbes Kerry is elected president, a nuclear device will be detonated in a Western City (most likely NY) within the next decade.

Regardless of who is elected, that scenario is almost guaranteed for a Russian City (Volgograd?).


3 posted on 09/22/2004 10:16:32 AM PDT by Area Freeper (From John Kerry, they get a "yes/no/maybe" bowl of mush that can only encourage our enemies)
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4 posted on 09/22/2004 10:16:40 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://www.drunkenbuffoonery.com/mboards/)
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To: Shryke
The bomb itself won't. The panic afterwards, the fights for food, water and shelter, the rioting might. . . NEVER forget second and third-order effects
5 posted on 09/22/2004 10:20:09 AM PDT by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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"Holgate said a problem in making sure that nuclear materials are not lying where terrorists can get them is that there is "lack of acceptance" within the Russian government that "their material is not adequately secured and that there is a relationship between terrorism and these materials."

Holgate might have also mentioned the "lack of acceptance" within our own government and institutions that have been importing chicoms and middle easterners for decades as exchange scientists and workers at our national labs and universities in the spirit of "globalism" and "new world orderism". The "pinheads" and "bee bee brains" in whom we have entrusted the security of what should have been highly classified technology have been passing it out like halloween candy for decades. When compounded with eight years of the "failed" clinton presidency total lack of national security measures and I'd estimate we're in a lot of trouble.

6 posted on 09/22/2004 10:26:32 AM PDT by kimosabe31
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I'm not. I don't think a 10 kiloton bomb would produce wide-spread stampeding. It would gut the center of the city (where few people usually actually live), and irradiate a minor area around that. Not to sure about the lethality of a smoke plume from a small yield weapon (i.e. the weather-blown "footprint"). It would be a gigantic problem, no doubt.


7 posted on 09/22/2004 10:30:49 AM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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I think you are right. This is about the size of the Hiroshima/Nagasaki weapons, and note that they were *air bursts*, about 500m above the ground IIRC, for max blast effect. The effects of a ground burst would be less.


8 posted on 09/22/2004 10:41:15 AM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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The effects of a ground burst would be less of a radius of destruction (than Hiroshima) but more fallout.
9 posted on 09/22/2004 10:50:52 AM PDT by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: alnitak; Shryke; Salgak

Seven million people commute into Manhattan each day. Almost two million live on the island. Few of the residents commute out of the city to work. This means that on the average work day there are at least 8mm people on an island that is 13 miles long and 8 miles wide at its widest point. A groundburst anywhere in midtown would almost certainly kill a million people.


10 posted on 09/22/2004 10:51:17 AM PDT by No Surrender Monkey
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To: No Surrender Monkey

Correction: The widest point of Manhattan is 2 miles.


11 posted on 09/22/2004 10:52:10 AM PDT by No Surrender Monkey
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I don't think a 10 kiloton bomb would produce wide-spread stampeding.

I beg to differ, if that were detonated in NYC there would indeed be panic to make 911 look like a parade.

It would gut the center of the city (where few people usually actually live), and irradiate a minor area around that.

Where millions of people work, this thing would go off mid-morning, mid week. Thousands, if not millions would be dead in the initial blast and thousands more would die due to radiation in the following couple weeks.

It would be a gigantic problem, no doubt.

Understatement of the year!

12 posted on 09/22/2004 10:52:29 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Molon Labe! FMCDH!)
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To: Area Freeper

Why exactly Volgograd?.


13 posted on 09/22/2004 10:54:42 AM PDT by Neocon Shavuz
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To: Doomonyou

Is Richard Marcinko a Republican? I loved his book.


14 posted on 09/22/2004 10:54:58 AM PDT by No Surrender Monkey
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To: Doomonyou

Yes, I agree, thousands dead. In the hear of Manhattan, perhaps tens of thousands. That's NOT millions. That's my only point.


15 posted on 09/22/2004 10:57:06 AM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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The effects would be somewhat contained by the concrete jungle itself, but look at the economic and psychological impact from the loss of just two buildings in 2001. It could be hundreds of buildings even with a small nuke, and the loss of life and economic trauma would be devastating.


16 posted on 09/22/2004 10:58:12 AM PDT by Sender (It is not their patriotism, but their judgment, that is so sorely lacking. -Zell Miller)
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To: Shryke

Let's pray we never have to find out.


17 posted on 09/22/2004 10:58:30 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Molon Labe! FMCDH!)
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To: Area Freeper

Thank god there is no way these terrorists can penetrate our borders!



Oh, wait...........................


18 posted on 09/22/2004 11:00:11 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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"The economic damage can be in the trillions (of dollars) and it can also be global," she said.

Every time I hear about economy being the center of John F. Kerry campaign, I think about that statement. That's where wrong foreign policy would double-cross any populist gimmicks he sells to lumpen-proletariat class in this country.
19 posted on 09/22/2004 11:00:59 AM PDT by Neocon Shavuz
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To: No Surrender Monkey
Is Richard Marcinko a Republican?

I would say yes, but I don't know for sure; from reading his books during the clintoon years, Marcinko verbally bitch slaps him quite a bit.

20 posted on 09/22/2004 11:01:33 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Molon Labe! FMCDH!)
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