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Kerry campaign says timing of 'Fortunate Son' ad campaign, 60 Minutes story a 'coincidence'
NBC News ^ | 9/23/04

Posted on 09/23/2004 2:31:31 PM PDT by ambrose

September 23, 2004 at 12:13PM MST

NBC's Lisa Myers Reports

Kerry campaign says timing of 'Fortunate Son' ad campaign, 60 Minutes story a 'coincidence'

Having acknowledged that its own standards were violated, CBS News named an independent panel to investigate what went wrong: Former Republican Attorney General Dick Thornburgh and retired chief of the Associated Press Louis Boccardi.

The investigation focuses on the process that led to airing possibly fraudulent documents challenging the President's military service and why the CBS Producer put the source of those documents, longtime Bush critic Bill Burkett, in touch with the Kerry Campaign before the story aired.

Journalism expert Robert Steele says, "The producer in this case was already operating in an ethical minefield. She squirted gasoline on the explosives when she made that connection."

Republicans launched a frontal attack on CBS, accusing the network of "a serious lapse in judgment" beyond the initial report in not suspending producer Mary Mapes and apologizing only for the documents rather than retracting the story itself.

Republicans said the Kerry Campaign clearly knew something about the CBS Report before it aired.

Terry Holt of the Republican National Committee says, "We think they should come clean and answer the question, 'what information did you obtain and what did you intend to do with it?'"

The day before the CBS report, Democrats began a concerted attack on the President's National Guard record.

However, the Kerry Campaign insists it knew nothing about the CBS documents, claiming the timing was a coincidence.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerry; planetofthemapes; stainedbluememo; sugarcoated
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1 posted on 09/23/2004 2:31:31 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: ambrose

I think they're sugar-coating things.


2 posted on 09/23/2004 2:32:22 PM PDT by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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To: ambrose

And if you believe that it was a coincidence I'm sure you also believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.


3 posted on 09/23/2004 2:32:30 PM PDT by Merry
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To: ambrose
With Kerry married to a multi-billionaire any Democratic party criticism of "W" for having a few bucks rings hollow.

Every penney they spend on such advertising is just wasted.

4 posted on 09/23/2004 2:33:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Merry

I believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus but NOT in the Kerry/MSM coincidence.


5 posted on 09/23/2004 2:33:57 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: Hank All-American

Hey, I was going to say that!


6 posted on 09/23/2004 2:34:20 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: ambrose
However, the Kerry Campaign insists it knew nothing about the CBS documents, claiming the timing was a coincidence.

I've noticed a lot of those lately. It's like the thing about the draft coming back. First you hear a word about it from some politician on a talk show, and next thing you know, it's in every newspaper and magazine in the land--and in campaign commercials too. Instantaneously. And all by chance. Must be something in the stars this season.

7 posted on 09/23/2004 2:35:11 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: ambrose
Kerry campaign says timing of 'Fortunate Son' ad campaign, 60 Minutes story a 'coincidence'

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

8 posted on 09/23/2004 2:35:27 PM PDT by Randjuke
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To: Hank All-American

Indeed. the Kerry/Edwards campaign is a long bout of sugarcoating, although I would say that Edwards is the most sacharine candidate since Bill Clinton. Kerry & Edwards are the SugarCoat Twins.


9 posted on 09/23/2004 2:35:27 PM PDT by orangelobster
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To: ambrose

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20040909_1601.html

Dems Take Chance With 'Fortunate Son' Slam

The Associated Press


WASHINGTON Sept. 9, 2004 — Seizing on 30-year-old memos and memories, Sen. John Kerry's operatives are painting an unflattering portrait of President Bush as the "fortunate son" who used family connections to dodge the Vietnam War and then lied about it.

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"Two things: One, he didn't tell the truth and that's not going to go away," said Howard Wolfson, a strategist dispatched to the DNC by Kerry's campaign to go negative on Bush. "Second, it begins to paint a picture of a very fortunate son who uses connections and pulls strings for special favors. That is a theme running through the man's life."

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10 posted on 09/23/2004 2:35:37 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Merry
And if you believe that it was a coincidence I'm sure you also believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.

How long was it after the CBS memos aired that Kerry's commercial using the memos started running?

How long does a commercial like that usually take to plan and make?

11 posted on 09/23/2004 2:36:24 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: ambrose
'coincidence' my arse...anyone who believes that is daft.
12 posted on 09/23/2004 2:36:44 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (At CBS - "We don't just report news - we make it - up.")
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To: Hank All-American

I say let the deny all they want. This just keep the story going.


13 posted on 09/23/2004 2:36:49 PM PDT by JLS
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To: ambrose

I continue to be amazed at how stupid they think we are...he is such an elitist!


14 posted on 09/23/2004 2:37:13 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
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To: Hank All-American
You beat me to it--a "sugar-coated" coincidence.

Wish some talented freeper would have some morning cereal graphics fun with sugar coatings...

15 posted on 09/23/2004 2:37:14 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Pajamamama)
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To: Merry

And the tooth fairy too. :-)


16 posted on 09/23/2004 2:37:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Hank All-American

WHO in the Kerry campaign?? Whoever said that is a lying piece of crap!!


17 posted on 09/23/2004 2:37:31 PM PDT by Tacis (When Kerry Farts, You Can Hear McAuliffe's Voice And Smell Lockhart's Breath!)
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To: ambrose

Sure. Just a CO-WINKIE-DINK! Give up Ketchup.


18 posted on 09/23/2004 2:37:33 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (The Pajamaheddin. The gadflies of the truth, the guerrillas of the ugly fact.)
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To: Hank All-American

I've been out all day and just read the "sugar coating" coincidink. LOL, McAuliffe stepped in it now.

Has the MSM caught on to this story yet...the timing of the "sugar coating" phrase?


19 posted on 09/23/2004 2:37:45 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Merry

The SeeBS/DNC "coincidence" is like the coincidence between smoke and fire.


20 posted on 09/23/2004 2:38:18 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: ambrose
Congressional Subpoenas! Start getting these Democratic idiots on legal record with at least the threat of perjury if they continue with the lies. Lying to Federal Investigators and/or congress is a crime. Not disclosing the information to Federal Investigators and/or congress is obstruction and a crime. Let the heads roll!
21 posted on 09/23/2004 2:38:21 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: ambrose
What Dan Rather and the Democrats did is against the 8th Commandment, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor."

They committed a mortal sin against George W. Bush.

22 posted on 09/23/2004 2:38:21 PM PDT by M007
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To: ambrose
However, the Kerry Campaign insists it knew nothing about the CBS documents, claiming the timing was a coincidence.
It was too bad that JFK just happened to be in front of that assassin's bullet. And what about President Clinton's penis that, coincidently, found itself in the same space occupied by that young intern's oral cavity?

Life is filled with odd coincidences.
23 posted on 09/23/2004 2:39:10 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: ambrose
Former Republican Attorney General Dick Thornburgh and retired chief of the Associated Press Louis Boccardi.

Has anyone noticed what this says about the AP?

One would presume this is a “balanced and fair” committee. Since Thornberg is clearly the Republican, that makes Louis Boccardi the Democrat.

What does that say about the AP? The former head of the AP is so biased he’s picked as the Democratic counterweight to a former Republican Attorney General.

Doesn’t this just scream “AP is biased” to you?

24 posted on 09/23/2004 2:39:34 PM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: Mamzelle

Or perhaps M&M's with the nuts inside.


25 posted on 09/23/2004 2:39:46 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: Hank All-American

It's going to take a lot of sugar to coat this coincidence. I expect shortages to arise in the stores soon.


26 posted on 09/23/2004 2:40:01 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Mamzelle

"Wish some talented freeper would have some morning cereal graphics fun with sugar coatings..."

Yeah, "SugarCoat Twins Cereal."
Socialist Surprise Toy Inside.


27 posted on 09/23/2004 2:40:01 PM PDT by orangelobster
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To: ambrose

I think the Kerry Campaign needs its own independent investigation. CBS is leading the way.


28 posted on 09/23/2004 2:40:11 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: ambrose

Kerry is a congenital liar.


29 posted on 09/23/2004 2:40:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: ambrose

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/639dyfsa.asp?pg=1

Wolfson's operation is well-oiled. His first day at the helm of OFS was Monday, September 6. On September 14, McAuliffe held a press conference and used the "Operation Fortunate Son" slogan for the first time. However, OFS was planned much earlier. Look back at the month before the operation began, and aspects of the Democrats' strategy come into focus, like the outline of a figure emerging from the mist.

On August 11, for example, Bob Tuke, the Tennessee state chair of Veterans for Kerry, told a Nashville radio station that, soon, "We may also know why Bush failed to show up for his medical exam that caused him to lose his flight status." A few weeks later, on September 1, liberal blogger Joshua Micah Marshall reported that Dan Rather was working on a 60 Minutes story about Bush and the Guard. On September 2, the day Bush accepted his party's nomination in New York, the online magazine Salon published an exhaustive investigation into the "unanswered questions" surrounding the president's service. On September 6, Terry McAuliffe issued a press release detailing "what we don't know" about Bush's Guard years. Another DNC release on the same topic followed on September 7. Three more followed on September 8, the day 60 Minutes aired its story featuring the now-discredited Guard memos. One of the DNC releases that day relied heavily on the 60 Minutes report.

Also on September 8, an independent group called Texans for Truth, whose founder has ties to the anti-Bush group MoveOn.org, announced it would run ads on Bush and the Guard in several swing states. A new batch of National Guard documents were released that day, too, and the Boston Globe and the Associated Press both featured stories on the new finds. The Globe story concluded that "Bush fell well short of meeting his military obligation." Then, on September 9, the DNC issued two more press releases that again quoted extensively from the 60 Minutes report, including from the discredited memos.

The DNC continued to issue press releases on Bush and the Guard, but, after September 9, the releases no longer mentioned the memos. The absence was noticeable.


30 posted on 09/23/2004 2:40:44 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: ambrose

Okay....so they got lucky with a coincidence?

See BS....no way Jose....Jeese Louise....How dumb do they think Americans are?


31 posted on 09/23/2004 2:41:05 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (I trust NOBODY BUT BUSH! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: SolidSupplySide

Lisa knows a story when she sees and smells one..she will pursue with all vigor...until..her phone rings from upstairs..


32 posted on 09/23/2004 2:41:26 PM PDT by samadams2000 ("Did they get you to trade, your heroes for ghosts")
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To: ambrose
If its good enough for PravdABDNC then its good enough for me. Just move along, Yaaaawn has the peoples business to attend to.........wait a minute????

Pray for W and The Truth

33 posted on 09/23/2004 2:41:26 PM PDT by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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To: ambrose
If you look at the available evidence, the Kerry campaign is probably telling the truth. The fact that Burkett needed Mapes to get in contact with the Kerry campaign certainly suggests that they were holding him at arms length (remember that he had written that he couldn't penetrate the layers of kids when he tried to contact the campaign himself).

I think CBS bought hook-line-and-sinker what the Kerry campaign itself wouldn't touch.
34 posted on 09/23/2004 2:42:09 PM PDT by self_evident
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To: M007

It was just another strange case of Mental Telepathy. Kind of like the time President Nixon sent John Kerry to Cambodia on Christmas Eve 1968. Nixon was signaling him even before he became President. MT is powerful stuff.


35 posted on 09/23/2004 2:42:30 PM PDT by daviscupper
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To: ambrose
However, the Kerry Campaign insists it knew nothing about the CBS documents, claiming the timing was a coincidence.

But the timing of the Sandy Berger investigation was a deliberate White House plot.....riiiiight.....

36 posted on 09/23/2004 2:43:11 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud to be a Reagan Alumna!)
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To: jimbo123

Wolfson was on Kudloe & Cramer this afternoon....they ripped him to pieces on this so called coincidence....

His response was ....."we got lucky."

He looked like he was about to cry!


37 posted on 09/23/2004 2:43:55 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (I trust NOBODY BUT BUSH! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: Dianna

CBS report: Sept. 8 evening
Kerry fortunate son ad: Sept. 9 day

so less than 24 hours...and I can guarantee you it takes far longer to produce an ad and distribute it.


38 posted on 09/23/2004 2:44:29 PM PDT by jambooti
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To: ambrose


I'd rather be a fortunate son than an unfortunate gigolo...


39 posted on 09/23/2004 2:44:54 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: handy
Doesn’t this just scream “AP is biased” to you?

Yes, although their reporting has already convinced me long ago.
40 posted on 09/23/2004 2:45:15 PM PDT by self_evident
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To: ambrose

Ya right a 'coincidence'.

Well, it is also a coincidence that it got light about the same time that the sun came up this morning.


41 posted on 09/23/2004 2:45:24 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (Another military family for Bush; citizen soldiers for Bush)
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To: TXBubba
"I believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus but NOT in the Kerry/MSM coincidence."

I am in total agreement with this statement. There is no way that something sleazy and despicable, that has even tenuous ties to the DNC is a coincidence. Those people never cease to amaze me. And Edwards? Excuse me?? John Edwards as VP?? Thats even worse than the thought of Kerry being POTUS!! Edwards is a no-talent idiot picked for his freakin hair for Gods sake!! Who could take this idiot seriously??? I'll be the first to say it. Edwards IS NOT EVEN FIT TO CARRY CHENEY'S JOCKSTRAP"
42 posted on 09/23/2004 2:46:38 PM PDT by libs_kma (FU*K HANOI JOHN AND THE HORSE HE'S MARRIED TOO!!!)
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To: JulieRNR21

Wolfson was just doing Hitlery's bidding. It was all an act.


43 posted on 09/23/2004 2:47:00 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: ambrose

Call for a full accounting... It is a serious crime to use forged government documents in an attempt to swing an election. Somebody needs to go to jail... Let the indictments begin and we will see who will go on the record in defense of the Kerry campaign... You see when faced with possible perjury and jail time... even die hard partisans will become rational people and may just tell the truth...


44 posted on 09/23/2004 2:47:27 PM PDT by tomnbeverly (Don't let John Kerry put a price on our childrens heads bear any burden pay any cost elect GW.)
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To: ambrose

It's surprising that Lisa Meyer is even asking this question.


45 posted on 09/23/2004 2:49:18 PM PDT by LS
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To: madprof98
However, the Kerry Campaign insists it knew nothing about the CBS documents, claiming the timing was a coincidence.

Yeah, and it was just a coincidence that Lou Gehrig's disease was named for the great ballplayer. It had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he died of it.

46 posted on 09/23/2004 2:49:59 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: ambrose

I am willing to believe anything at least once..it was just a coincidence..that and lockhart and burkett talked on the phone before it broke..I am sure they discussed differences between the movie and book versions of "The Lord of The Rings" trilogy..we should give them the benefit of the doubt..I must go now..tereza is coming to town to berate us..wish us luck..


47 posted on 09/23/2004 2:50:06 PM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: ambrose
If I remember correctly, Terry McAwful specifically mentioned the supposed "sugarcoating" of Bush's record right BEFORE 60 minutes ran the story.

I would bet that there waw careful coordination. In fact, if the document had been forged as carefully as the timing was arranged, they would have gotten away with it.

48 posted on 09/23/2004 2:51:46 PM PDT by Montfort
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To: ambrose
As I posted on another thread:

Too late.

Sheesh, you think the peeples are stoopid??

49 posted on 09/23/2004 2:52:32 PM PDT by technomage
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To: ambrose
Does the DNC think everybody is as stupid as their myrmidons? Sheesh... insulting my intelligence.
50 posted on 09/23/2004 2:52:38 PM PDT by Doctor Freeze
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