Skip to comments.Did Kerry Lie about Attending the Signing of the Gulf-War Ceasefire
Posted on 09/23/2004 9:18:29 PM PDT by Rokke
I just watched the rerun of O'Reilly's 2001 interview with Kerry discussing the need to invade Iraq. In that interview, Kerry said the following: "I mean, I was in Safwan. I went there when the signing of the armistice took place at the end of the war." I've watched the video of the cease-fire signing at Safwan. It was still in a combat zone. I don't remember seeing anyone but military officers. Can anyone provide additional insight, or has Kerry lied again.
Don't click on the link for the O'Reilly show. It doesn't work.
If Kerry says he was there, I am sure Kerry typed up an offical document that proves it....I don't care if 250 people who were there claims he wasn't.
I've read about this, probably in Schwartz...'s (sp?) book. I can't believe for a sec. that Kerry was there, but that would be the best place to look I believe.
Why would he go, he voted against the Gulf War
Were his lips moving?
I would bet that it's another lie.
And, if you ask him about it he will deny he ever said it, call you an idiot scumbag, and tell you to shove it.
i looked through schwarzkopf's book and it has no mention of politicians being at the scene at all. someone needs to look into this if they have better sources they can tap
email oreilly and have him look into it...he has the research dept and the pentagon probably answers his phone calls..
My understanding is that the Safwan party consisted only of military officers lead by General H. Norman Schwartzkopf. I suggest we check the pictures in "It Doesn't Take a Hero" of the signing. I think it would be difficult for Liveshot to have mananged not to throw himself in front of a camera lens.
Also, after a little checking, don't forget that Kerry voted against Desert Storm. If he was there, he would be having a crow dinner. The odds of him being there are extremely low.
Yeah I saw that to, but they don't show all of Saddam's side so it's not proof heh.
"The choice of Safwan Airfield as the site for the formal cease-fire ceremony was dictated by a number of factors. These included Gen. Schwarzkopf's desire to conduct a hold the meeting deep inside Iraq so as to reinforce the idea that the Iraqis had been defeated. The location also had to be road-accessible so as to permit the Iraqi delegation to reach it. Safwan Airfield was eventually selected, although it still remained in Iraqi possession.
1-4 Cavalry Squadron, armed with two tank reinforced ground troops, two air cavalry troops, and one Apache attack helicopter company, was dispatched to capture the airfield and prepare it for the ceremony. The airfield, it was discovered, was being protected by an entire Iraqi Republican Guard armored brigade, in reveted positions slightly north of the airfield. Other Iraqi units were also located at other locations in the near-vicinity of the airfield.
Meeting with various senior Iraqi officers, the latter were told in blunt terms to either depart the area or face the prospect of decisive military action, even though this might have meant the US violating the cease-fire on Iraqi soil. Threatened with overwhelming force and retaliation if refusing to comply with US instructions, Iraqi troops eventually retreated from the Safwan Airfield.
The Iraqi delegation arrived by road at a coalition checkpoint several miles from the airfield. From there, it was transported to the ceremony site using HMWVV vehicles and escorted by escorted by Bradley Fighting Vehicles, two M1A1s Abrams, and two Apaches Attack helicopters, at 11:30 a.m. local time.
The meeting lasted two hours between seven Iraqi Generals and General H. Norman Schwarzkopf. It was observed by coalition generals from saudi Arabia, Britain, France, Kuwait, Egypt, Syria, among others. The meeting resulted in Iraqi Generals accepting all of the U.S.-led coalition's conditions for a permanent cease-fire. "http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/imint/safwan.htm
What am I missing here. I don't see anything about "...and assorted Senators."
I think Bill O'Reilly has been spun. I wonder if he'd like to know.
I have a friend who claimed he was there, but he has pictures to prove it. I wonder if Kerry took any pictures?
My friend also has pictures of Dick Cheney in his helicopter ( in flight !). Those are awesome pics, I tell you !!
Then on the other hand, along with his other many talents, maybe he teleported himself there while no one was watching. What an idiot. This is at least as good as inventing the Internet...astral projection. Lord, what next?
Why would John Kerry be there?
He was against that war, too.
Har. Very good!
It was held in Cambodia, weren't you there?
I wonder if this too was "seared, seared...blah blah blah".
To be fair sKerry doesn't say he was at the actual signing of the armistice but that he was in the city of Safwan when it was signed.
You can bet your bottom dollar he'd like to know. He takes being spun very personally (that "no-spin zone" thing). Send him the entire thread, he'll probably pick up on it as a personal kind of Christmas in Cambodia thing bring played on him?
No one paid attention to free republic or Drudge when Clinton was tormenting us with his spontaneous lies- but Kerry can be had any time and every time- hope O reilly makes an issue of it - Kerry places himself in places where something actually occurs - as if it makes him more of an authority - making others feel small- little do they know he is a con man- when confronted with this lie- he will waste our time rephrasing and dare you to waste time playing the sound byte back- what a sad life he has
BTTT to catch another kerri LIE!!! PJ's on!!!!
exactly, he was near the border of Iraq dropping off some CIA guys. It's all hush-hush. Just ask the guys on his boat.
I don't even believe that much.
That's even worse. Besides being a tiny hellhole (I've flown over it countless times), Safwan was still in the middle of a combat zone with the cease-fire was signed. In fact, within a couple days after the cease-fire was signed, some of the heaviest fighting of the war took place near Safwan. There is NO WAY a United States Senator would be anywhere near there.
Perhaps this is another "seared, seared into my memory" moment.
I think Hannity needs to look into this. O'bore would not want to do anything to keep kerry from coming onto his show!
Unless you have witnesses that were standing in Kerry's underpants -- they are not valid witnesses...
I kind of doubt he was anywhere near the place. From the time hostilities ended until that armistice was signed wouldn't have allowed for a plane trip from the States into a SAFE area (like Saudi), and then a ride up to the meeting beyond the front lines?
Wonder if he has a souvenir hat from Safwan, too ... tucked into a special compartment of his briefcase.
John Freakface Kerry would never tell a lie, nor would he fabricate a story to place himself into historic events. Of course he was there for the signing of the ceasefire, he saved his favorite hat from the CIA guy who went over the border with him, from Kuwait to Iraq....
What was the date of the signing?
This is insame. If Kerry told another quasi-lie about being somewhere that he's neer been then he's a bigger fool than I thought. Unless he was under the table I don't see him in the picture. Anybody know BOR's direct line?
You're right, Kerry's story doesn't make sense. What would be the purpose of going to some backwater hellhole if you weren't going to be at the actual signing.
I saw a picture that I thought was him for a minute...turned out to be a camel..*sigh*
Where his lips moving? That's usually a pretty good indicator of a lie.
Can the minutes of the Senate for that day be checked. If Senator Kerry was in Washington, he would not have missed a chance to speak (claim credit for victory).
"Kerry places himself in places where something actually occurs..."
Maybe he thinks himself some kind of Forrest Gump.
Smoking Jacket on.
Or Tourist Guy.
The cease-fire was signed 3 March 1991
I have Schwarzkopf's bio, as well as Fred Franks' book w/ Tom Clancy, "Into the Storm". I'll start looking into the Safwan sections of both to see if they mention Kerry...
IF he showed up, it would be a rare sighting!
I see what you mean.
Learn to spell, will you? It's were not where.
There must be a FReeper who could as Gen. Schwarzkopf personally if Kerry was there.