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Gingrich: "Kerry undermined in South Vietnam 30 Years ago And is NOW Trying to Undermine IRAQ!"
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Posted on 09/24/2004 5:32:46 AM PDT by xzins

Gingrich just ripped into Kerry.

Said he undermined the US, Vietnam (troops, nations, leaders) 30 years ago.

Said he is doing the same now.

Said it is WHAT Kerry Does!


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1 posted on 09/24/2004 5:32:47 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

Burnination!


2 posted on 09/24/2004 5:33:27 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: xzins

It's unbelieveable.

He's doing exactly the same thing he did in 1971.


3 posted on 09/24/2004 5:34:38 AM PDT by angkor
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To: xzins

I sure miss ol Newt telling dems they way it is.


4 posted on 09/24/2004 5:35:09 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: xzins; SeeRushToldU_So

Whohoo!


5 posted on 09/24/2004 5:35:50 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guess what? Your 72 virgins look like Michael Moore!)
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To: Constantine XIII; angkor

Kerry is in the demoralizing business...he is clearly trying to demoralize our troops, our nation, our allies, and our leadership.

The man is NOT a patriot!


6 posted on 09/24/2004 5:36:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: xzins

John Kerry: Wrong then. Wrong now.


7 posted on 09/24/2004 5:37:25 AM PDT by Samwise (The Pajama People: They also serve who hunt and peck.)
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To: xzins

NEWT!


8 posted on 09/24/2004 5:38:28 AM PDT by Drango (PJs? Never. FReep in the "Buff")
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To: Samwise

f stands for effing wrong.


9 posted on 09/24/2004 5:38:45 AM PDT by lonster
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To: xzins

We can disagree with Newtie sometimes, or not approve of his personal life, but as far as politics and policy go, he is always on the money. In this case he is so right. For America to seemingly have 2 voices at this critical time when we should be unified, is a disgrace. Teresa should refer to her own husband as "scumbag" and "idiot" because he sure is.


10 posted on 09/24/2004 5:38:53 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: xzins
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Yes, this is what Kerry does.

Let's not forget Kerry's stellar Senate career where his greatest achievements were

Stopping the funding for the Nicaraguan Contras after bring back a peace agreement with Daniel Ortega of the Sandanistas (which was worthless). Ortega turned around and solicited $200 million from the Soviets a few days later. Read: Kerry's Disloyal Nicaraguan Journey and Don't forget 'The John Kerry Committee'

Investigating (or creating) the Iran/Contra and BCCI scandals.

Blocking the vote on the Vietnam Human Rights Act in the Senate in 2001, which tied U.S. aid to Vietnam's human rights performance, and had passed by a 410-1 margin in the House of Representatives. Kerry, chairman of the Senate's East Asian and Pacific Affairs subcommittee, said in a statement at the time that he and fellow Vietnam War veteran Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) "are concerned that denying aid to Vietnam would actually slow human rights improvements." Many Vietnamese living abroad, along with human rights campaigners, say conditions in Vietnam have deteriorated in the three years since Kerry blocked the legislation.

Persuading the MIA/POW Senate committee to vote unanimously that no POWs existed in Vietnam in order to open up trade with Vietnam (his cousin C. Stewart Forbes, CEO of Colliers Intl, received a contract for a huge commercial deal worth at least $905 million to develop a deep-sea commercial port at Vung Tau). For more on the POW/MIA issue, here is a great article: When John Kerry's Courage Went M.I.A. - Senator covered up evidence of P.O.W.'s left behind

For more, check out the John F. Kerry Timeline. Email it to your friends, post on your blogs.
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11 posted on 09/24/2004 5:39:08 AM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; Joe Boucher

It seems that the president hinted at the same thing yesterday when he spoke of those who were sending "mixed messages" to our troops, our allies, our nation.

But Newt isn't constrained by the campaign.

He just ripped Kerry a new one!


12 posted on 09/24/2004 5:39:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Constantine XIII

He's a bad man and thats what bad men do.


13 posted on 09/24/2004 5:39:25 AM PDT by normy (John Kerry wants us to trust the French and the UN to do the right thing.)
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To: xzins

JFK = Just For Kerry


14 posted on 09/24/2004 5:40:08 AM PDT by A. Morgan ( If I wanted to see(BS) Horsesh*t, I could go out to the barn and see it for free.)
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To: xzins

Kerry is not alone in the undermining effort, just as he wasn't alone during the 'Nam era


15 posted on 09/24/2004 5:40:10 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Free Republic = PNN = Pajama News Network)
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To: xzins
And that is true.

How dispicable it is to see Kerry trash the leader of Iraq, and how horrific to hear his sycophants doing the same...claiming that Allawi is LYING about the great successes in Iraq....ignoring that this good leader spoke to the fact that of the eighteen provinces in Iraq (states within Iraq, as it were), that FIFTEEN are settling into freedom, learning about democracy, safe and ready to VOTE TOMORROW if necessary.

That only THREE provinces remain in turmoil, and yet, our press, and the kerry camp, are so disingenuous and so determined to break American's resolve to win this war, that they are WILLING to call Iraq's leader a liar (basically that is what they did), willing to call our President a liar (that is a fact), and willing to HURT OUR TROOPS.

Just like they did in VIETNAM where MILLIONS died when we pulled out because John Kerry and the CBS, in particular, walter cronkite (who said the war was UNWINNABLE when we were WINNING) destroyed our resolve and caused a heartache within our Vietnam troops that was TOTALLY BASED ON THEIR ATTACKS AND LIES.

So they do it again with Iraq...but this time....WE ARE HERE and we WILL NOT LET THEM DESTROY OUR EFFORT TO WIN THIS WAR!

I have never felt such anger towards our press as I did yesterday.

16 posted on 09/24/2004 5:41:05 AM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: xzins

We all need to email Sen Kerry and flood his office with letters telling him to stop his undermining of the Iraqi people and Pres Bush. He did it when he came back from Vietnam and is doing it once again. He is putting our soldiers at risk. Please send him a letter or email his campaign.


17 posted on 09/24/2004 5:41:30 AM PDT by RitaMcA
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To: xzins

Great points by Newt. What is next with Kerry? Slandering the soldiers when they return?


18 posted on 09/24/2004 5:42:12 AM PDT by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: NRA1995
Kerry is not alone in the undermining effort

That's true - he's not alone - he has the whole Democrat party with him. That's "Democrat Party - those who hate America".

19 posted on 09/24/2004 5:42:15 AM PDT by Elkiejg (O.K., I'll say it......National Democrats ARE UNPATRIOTIC!!)
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To: Republic

Very well said! I agree completely!


20 posted on 09/24/2004 5:43:12 AM PDT by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: xzins

Newt Gingrich is wrong!

John Kerry was a traitor thirty years ago and John Kerry is seditious today. This mincing of words by Bush-Cheney and their supporters is giving a boost to the Kerry campaign.

Nice guys finish last.

Those who mince words finish last.

Those who fail to expose the scum for what they are finish last.

Bush's putting the Swift Boat Vets in the same light as moveon.org is suicide and gives a big boost to Kerry by Bush.

Bush's calling Kerry's Vietnam service "honorable" while trashing the Swift Boast Vets has crushed the truth and kept Kerry afloat.

Why do Bush supporters feel telling the truth about their opponents is somehow wrong?


21 posted on 09/24/2004 5:43:43 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: xzins
Every time Kerry (or the dems in general) complain that our efforts in Iraq are a looming "failure"..it slaps the face of every man and woman who serves there. Newt was able to express publicly what we already knew.
By the way, they also insult the Coalition when they claim we went into Iraq "unilaterally".
22 posted on 09/24/2004 5:44:21 AM PDT by two23
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To: xzins
Kerry is in the demoralizing business

Correction here. Kerry and the democrats are in the demoralizing business. Now, that's better.

23 posted on 09/24/2004 5:44:41 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican
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To: christie

I can see a Swift Boat or other 527 ad that juxtaposes the 2:

Undermining our troops in Vietnam then.

Undermining our troops in Iraq now.

Demoralizing then.

Demoralizaing now.


It could be an awesome political ad.


24 posted on 09/24/2004 5:45:13 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: RitaMcA
We all need to email Sen Kerry and flood his office with letters telling him to stop his undermining of the Iraqi people and Pres Bush.

We need to flood Newt Gingrich's office and tell Newt to stop being so kind to John Kerry. He was a traitor 30 years ago and is seditious today. Stop mincing words, Newt!

25 posted on 09/24/2004 5:45:54 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: Samwise

To expand on your thought...

John Kerry: He lied then. He is lying now.


26 posted on 09/24/2004 5:46:29 AM PDT by ishabibble ((Terry Kerry's biggest fan))
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To: xzins

Got to meet Newt yesterday :-) He was here in Montgomery at Maxwell AFB for a book signing.


27 posted on 09/24/2004 5:46:44 AM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: xzins

Also trying to undermine Korea. If Kerry wins, then we will lose the Iraqi war, and we will lose the Korean war.


28 posted on 09/24/2004 5:47:12 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: xzins

Thankfully someone in the power-structure has FINALLY come out and said it.

JFK - Old dog - same tricks.

Make the truth hurt.


29 posted on 09/24/2004 5:51:17 AM PDT by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: xzins

Kerry is a rotten back-biting, back-stabbing anti-American SOB who wants to be our President. Nothing is right unless he deems it to be.

The reality is that he is unwilling and unable to take a firm position on anything because he fears being attacked by others who he is sure are rotten back-biting, back-stabbing anti-American SOB's like he is.

The man is paranoid, pathological, and delusional.


30 posted on 09/24/2004 5:57:09 AM PDT by Fithee
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To: Republic

This has all been focus-grouped for Kerry so what it tells us is interesting. Kerry has pulled his ads from some battleground states assuming they are unwinnable. Now he is pulling his pro-war position as well. Either he is being told Bush has that position locked up OR he is hearing that his liberal base is weak.

He is ripe for the kill. As Newt is setting the stage for, parallels between Kerry's Vietnam and Iraq positions will be exposed and using a simple cause/effect relationship, it can be shown that his position will leave millions dead, soldiers put through agony upon return home, America weakened and our enemies rejuvenated. Kerry's position has muprhed into a re-working of that failed policy. (Now if we could just get a few photos of him shaking hands with someone from CAIR or another terrorist organization the parallels of cooperating with the enemy would be complete.


31 posted on 09/24/2004 5:59:06 AM PDT by thecanuck
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I had just turned Fox off, so I missed it.


32 posted on 09/24/2004 6:00:12 AM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (Some days I am more rednecked than other days. Not there is anything wrong with that.)
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To: xzins
Kerry needs to go back to Wendy's where he opened his campaign.

He needs to stock up on milkshakes to throw at returning soldiers.

I know someone hit by a milkshake thrown by one of Kerry's gibbering little commie savages thirty-some years ago. Still bitter about it and rightly so. Payback's gonna be a beeyotch and it's comin', baby, it's comin'.

This election is going to be the most humiliating rejection at the ballot box the world has ever seen and the commie rat basturds and '60s skanks deserve every awful minute of it.

33 posted on 09/24/2004 6:00:49 AM PDT by Sal
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

You turn Fox off?


34 posted on 09/24/2004 6:02:31 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guess what? Your 72 virgins look like Michael Moore!)
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To: Drango

THANK YOU NEWT!!!!!!!!!


35 posted on 09/24/2004 6:02:59 AM PDT by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Some foxes I don't turn off.


36 posted on 09/24/2004 6:03:46 AM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (Some days I am more rednecked than other days. Not there is anything wrong with that.)
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To: xzins

Kerry, SHUT UP! SIT DOWN! Let the ADULTS drive.


37 posted on 09/24/2004 6:04:36 AM PDT by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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To: All
Kerry, directing VVAW's massive pro-Hanoi demonstration in Washington. - April 1971

TRAITOR!

38 posted on 09/24/2004 6:05:38 AM PDT by Gucho
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To: SeeRushToldU_So

LOL, for a Cracker, that was a pretty good comeback...........


39 posted on 09/24/2004 6:06:19 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guess what? Your 72 virgins look like Michael Moore!)
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To: two23
Kerry: Iraq...a loom failure...it slaps (those) who serve there...

It clearly demoralizes them.

There is no doubt that Kerry is trying to injure our troops.

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Support the Troops!

40 posted on 09/24/2004 6:07:33 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I guess this is the first time in 30 some years that Kerry hasn't changed his position on something. Sounds like a good campaign ad.


41 posted on 09/24/2004 6:08:58 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

The reason that Pres. Bush is doing the things he is doing is pure genius. He does not have to sink to their level. He is giving the American people the chance sink this Bas**** on their own. This fool Kerry is just stupid and condescending to see himself digging his own grave. This allows Pres. Bush to let JFK look stupid all on his own. Take one step back and see if you see what I am talking about.
He is not trashing the Swiftvets. They understand the political point of view and everytime Pres Bush is asked the questions, their message gets across again.

Take a look at the big picture.

BTW.....We are the Bush Supporters who are exercising our rights to tell the truth. It looks better to have the truth come out through outlets like The FreeRepublic etc.

Se what I mean? Keep up the great work and pass the word


42 posted on 09/24/2004 6:11:19 AM PDT by Leofl
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To: NRA1995; Republic
Kerry is not alone in the undermining effort, just as he wasn't alone during the 'Nam era

That's right. It couldn't have been done without the coordinated efforts of the traitorous Walter Cronkite/cBS and most of the other media.

They're still at it with the coordinated efforts of Dan Rather/cBS and John Kerry playing himself once again. Thank God they no longer control our access to information.

43 posted on 09/24/2004 6:13:08 AM PDT by Sal
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To: jennyjenny

Good point - he was a traitor then and a traitor now....... no flip flopping on that one, unless you want to consider that he was a commissioned officer while being a traitor -


44 posted on 09/24/2004 6:14:01 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Guess what? Your 72 virgins look like Michael Moore!)
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To: xzins
I just had to repeat this post. It goes to the heart and soul of John Kerry.

Undermining our troops in Vietnam then.

Undermining our troops in Iraq now.

Demoralizing then.

Demoralizing now.

45 posted on 09/24/2004 6:14:11 AM PDT by Beckwith (John Kerry, sign the Form 180 - petition at http://www.SignForm180.com)
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To: xzins
All the Swifties need is a few more commercials and they will then have the population educated.

Kerry is a serial betrayer. Glad he has seen fit to demonstrate it for all to see.

46 posted on 09/24/2004 6:16:47 AM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: thecanuck
Good points! It would seem the stage really is being set!

And it is about time.

Kerry really is a 9/10 girlie man, living in the past, ignoring the incredible and indubitable FACT that...

our national drive to protect our homeland has been pricked, and pricked hard, since 9/11.

We no longer feel invulnerable, and we no longer will ever join the CBS press types and the klinton, kerry leftist cabal in their drive to destroy our using of our STRENGTH to fight terrorism and USE preemptive STRIKES to shape the peace in this world thru the growth of free societies.

Peace through strength is our cry. We are not a nation of the leftist girlie man, homosexual PC crowd who shiver at their own nation's strength and despise our moral and ethical determination to help others achieve what we have gained through war, ourselves. Both for our independence , through a civil war, through world wars and through other wars designed to protect freedom and communist invasions. One of which, kerry helped our nation to lose.

Nope.

9/11 woke us up and drew us together, democrats and republicans and all, national security is not a partisan issue, it is an AMERICAN ISSUE.

And if there is one thing leftists cannot stand...it is AMERICAN UNITY. (They even argued about press people wearing tiny American flags in the aftermath of 9/11, a smallish fact, but demonstrative of their smallish ideological thinking that anything pro-American is embarrassing)

These people DO NOT GET IT...they LIVE in the past, and probably wish for those hippie days of heady 'peace' concerts, where fantasy ruled and conservatives were all seen as grown-ups, not to be trusted.

47 posted on 09/24/2004 6:16:59 AM PDT by Republic (Terri Schiavo,saved by TERRI's LAW after 7 days of starvation, fights ACLU-Felos to keep law intact)
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To: TNCMAXQ

"...as far as politics and policy go, he is always on the money."

In this case he is right on the money and, to be truthful, he has been many times before. However, he has had his share of blunders as well.

Recall the '94 elections being hailed as a blanker endorsement of the Republican agenda and the 'Contract with America.' I don't see it quite that way, nor do many other activists. The '94 election was more about the repudiation of krinton's socialism and the threat to American freedoms than it was about Newt 'n' Dole's leadership. It seems to me that 'R' leadership are always happy to stroke the base, but they forget who brings 'em to the dance. The 2A crowd and the anti-abortion people and the myriad of grass-roots conservative activists were the ones that unleashed the '94 backlash against krinton. Newt flat out got that one wrong. The upshot of this blunder surfaced in '96 when many stayed home instead of hailing the genius of the Republican agenda with further enthusiastic support.

In many other respects, though, I miss ol' Newt as well. He did have a talent for shoving a burr up the piping of the port-listing party.


48 posted on 09/24/2004 6:18:22 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Savor the present as the days of Kerry's whine and poses. It'll be a nice memory when you are old.)
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To: Leofl
He does not have to sink to their level.

Telling the truth is not "sinking to their level".

Telling the truth can't be compared to lies.

Bush could say that the Swift Boat Vets for Truth all served honorably and many are highly decorated. They have a right to tell their story since 527s are allowed.

Bush could say "let the people buy "Unfit for Command" and let the people see Farenheit 9/11 and the people can judge for themselves what they want to believe." No matter what you call it, Bush has trashed the Swift Boat Vets. Bush has also said Kerry "served honorably". How does Bush know that? Bush was not there.

49 posted on 09/24/2004 6:18:40 AM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: xzins

Thanks for the pic.


50 posted on 09/24/2004 6:18:45 AM PDT by two23
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