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The Fall
National Review Online ^ | September 24, 2004 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 09/24/2004 6:21:27 AM PDT by sola_fide

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1 posted on 09/24/2004 6:21:28 AM PDT by sola_fide
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To: sola_fide

Another great piece by Victor Davis Hanson.


2 posted on 09/24/2004 6:22:34 AM PDT by sola_fide
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To: sola_fide; seamole; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 
3 posted on 09/24/2004 6:24:37 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: sola_fide

This is playing out like a Geek tragedy.....(sic).....


4 posted on 09/24/2004 6:30:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you shoot from the hip enough times, eventually you'll shoot yourself in the a$$......)
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To: sola_fide
“...wigged aristocrats on their way to the Guillotine”

Hope 'ol Danny-boy tips the guy dropping the 'slicer'.

For a small pittance... they used to resharpen the blade to ensure a clean cut.

When dealing with sooo many customers, the blade... alas... loses its edge and the process becomes redundant.

5 posted on 09/24/2004 6:35:52 AM PDT by johnny7 (“You talkin' bout' the Queen again Bob? ON INDEPENDENCE DAY?!!” -Little Bill)
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To: Tolik

As old a story as the garden of eden and all greek drama...UBRIS...THE FALL:

If we wonder why CBS is in trouble, why no one trusts the universities or the U.N., or why the Democrats may soon lose the Senate, the House, the presidency, and the Supreme Court, the answer has a lot to do with ...ARROGANCE.


6 posted on 09/24/2004 6:38:05 AM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: sola_fide

Very well said. Dan.............go now!


7 posted on 09/24/2004 6:38:44 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Tolik

Nail this one to the door of every network and to the tail of every reporter and editor. He is simply terrific..BRAVO!


8 posted on 09/24/2004 6:40:55 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: sola_fide

VDH should have his own television show just for the sake of a wider audience. He is terrific.


9 posted on 09/24/2004 6:51:34 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Savor the present as the days of Kerry's whine and poses. It'll be a nice memory when you are old.)
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Its interesting since Victor Davis Hanson is a conservative Democrat. He despises his own party for trashing both its soul and and its best causes in the pursuit of power and naked expediency. No wonder they've long had it coming to them.


10 posted on 09/24/2004 6:56:39 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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[Danron logo, Rev 2.0.]

11 posted on 09/24/2004 6:57:34 AM PDT by Fixit (comedian.blogspot.com)
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To: sola_fide

The libs are going supernova. They'll end up as a white dwarf glowing inconspicuously in a corner of our consciousness.


12 posted on 09/24/2004 7:01:13 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: sola_fide

PREACH IT BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!

Victor Davis Hanson is right on the mark with this beauty!! This article is a keeper!!!!


13 posted on 09/24/2004 7:01:45 AM PDT by kb2614 ( You have everything to fear, including fear itself. - The new DNC slogan)
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To: sola_fide

Well, that does a pretty good job of 'splaining it. Arrogance and Hypocrisy have been the suicidal weapons of modern Liberalism. Is a Liberal just naturally a spoiled arrogant, hypocritical brat out of which spouts Liberal thought as a matter of course, or is Liberal thought and teaching presented in the public school system without much competition resulting in whole new crops of Liberals who didn't use their brain cells to reason things out? Which came first, the Liberal chicken or the Liberal egg? Is Liberalism merely a personality disorder that has been allowed to seek its level like water?


14 posted on 09/24/2004 7:05:27 AM PDT by Twinkie
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VDH should have his own television show just for the sake of a wider audience. He is terrific.

I always seem to miss him when he is on TV. I'm with you, if he had a show, I would be sure to watch. I first "discovered" him after 9/11. The articles he wrote for NRO then were just outstanding. His grasp of history and ability to put current events in historical context are unsurpassed.

I do get the impression that he is a bit of what I call an "agrarian utopist." While I don't share this view, he does make some valid points.

15 posted on 09/24/2004 7:13:51 AM PDT by sola_fide
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He is big on the agrarian thing, but I can live with that since his allegiance to the traditions of freedom and the eminence of truth are solid. I first found him with his book on 'The Western Way of War' (heavily into the relationships of culture, war and agriculture) but, like you, rediscovered him after 9/11. Maybe the best thing I like is his clarity and the ability to put context into the grasp of every reader. No intellectual BS - just the facts with balance. A good read every time.


16 posted on 09/24/2004 7:19:21 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Savor the present as the days of Kerry's whine and poses. It'll be a nice memory when you are old.)
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To: sola_fide

Good find!


17 posted on 09/24/2004 7:20:20 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: IncPen; Nailbiter; Forecaster
But in the process there also began a professional devolution, as questionable legal and ethical methods were excused in the name of the greater good. We got the Ellsberg pilfered documents, the blank check of "unnamed sources," trips to Hanoi and Paris to meet the enemy, Peter Arnett broadcasting gloom and doom live from Baghdad — all culminating in the two-bit forgeries used for the "higher" cause of unseating George Bush. Daniel Ellsberg, Jane Fonda, and CBS may have done things that were legally wrong (like the latter's promulgating fraudulent government documents to defame a government official), but in postmodern logic they were morally "right" given their superior knowledge, character, and progressive intentions.

Devastating indictment.

18 posted on 09/24/2004 7:24:08 AM PDT by BartMan1
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>Mr. Rather would do well to remember Leo Amery's famous evocation of Cromwell . . .

Everyone who quotes
the Protector would do well
to remember what

happened when he died.
(And the extremes he went to
to "protect" England

while he was alive.
It's not at all clear he was
really a good guy . . .)

19 posted on 09/24/2004 7:57:57 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Twinkie
"Is a Liberal just naturally a spoiled arrogant, hypocritical brat out of which spouts Liberal thought as a matter of course, or is Liberal thought and teaching presented in the public school system without much competition resulting in whole new crops of Liberals who didn't use their brain cells to reason things out?

This is a great question and one that could be debated endlessly since it is, in effect, the age-old question of "nature vs. nurture".

If forced to choose, I'd say the latter is the cause, and the former is merely the dreadful result. Being a spoiled hypocrite strikes me as being more of a learned behavior as opposed to an inherent part of one's nature. When you have teachers that are on a constant vigil against having someone's baby dumpling's precious self-esteem shaken in even the slightest way and the teacher dare not tell them them they're wrong or lacking somehow, I'm amazed that the result could be anything else.

Surely the lack of competing ideas and an insistance on "political correctness" leads, ironically, to a kind of cookie-cutter conformity which seems to be the antithesis of the liberal notion of "individuality". (I can't help thinking about the young tattooed and pierced person who did it as a form of self-expression, and ends up looking like all of his or her tattooed and pierced peers who did it for the same reason, and it all makes me chuckle.)

There are many other things that reinforce the liberal mindset in school, but I don't have the time to get into them...I have to get back to work!

Of course, as we learn more about the structure and function of the brain, perhaps we will learn that liberals and conservatives are indeed born and not made, but I have a gut feeling the odds are against it. Time will tell, I suppose.

20 posted on 09/24/2004 8:28:43 AM PDT by P H Lewis ("I wish somebody would tell me what diddy-wah-diddy means." - Blind Arthur Blake)
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