Posted on 09/24/2004 3:43:09 PM PDT by notkerry
Linke's husband was admitted to the Texas Guard in the summer of 1972 to replace Bush. . . . Linke says, the couple discussed Bush's service with Killian at a social event. . . . Linke's husband died while serving in the Texas Guard in 1973 after drinking at the officer's club. He nodded off at the wheel, drove into a lake and drowned.
Do we want to acknowledge a place with "Bush coup" and "the ongoing occupation"?
What? Why should I have to go to the link to find out what you are talking about?
Unbelievable slander! 'Bush stopped flying because he was afraid to fly and was an alcoholic.' I'm sure Dan Rather is already on the phone with this psychotic...
I am so tired of this mess, the democrats trying to dig up dirt on our good President! May they who are doing this sink into a quagmire!!!!! (They are!!)
I read about this - supposedly he had a panic attack. Bull Crap!
How come the only ones who give Rather 'reliable' information are dead? Next thing you know, Vince Foster's lost memos about GWB's guard service will turn up!!
Janet Linke has been thinking about George W. Bush a lot lately. Thirty-two years ago, her late husband Jan Peter Linke served briefly in the Texas Air National Guard's 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron. Bush's service in the same squadron has gotten plenty of mention in an election year when what you did during the Vietnam War is suddenly a litmus test of character. But Linke claims she knows a part of the story that nobody has mentioned.
According to Linke, a Jacksonville resident and artist, Bush's flying career was permanently disabled by a crippling fear of flying.
Linke's husband was admitted to the Texas Guard in the summer of 1972 to replace Bush. President [sic] Bush has said that he stopped flying fighter jets because the Alabama Guard unit didn't have jets, and he wanted to transfer to Alabama in order to work on a political campaign. But Linke says she heard a different story from her husband and Bush's squad commander, the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian. Shortly after her husband joined the Texas unit, Linke says, the couple discussed Bush's service with Killian at a social event.
Contrary to some news reports that suggest Killian admired Bush, Linke says the officer didn't have much use for the young Lieutenant. He mentioned that Bush appeared to have a drinking problem, she recalls, but he was most offended by another incapacity: his fear of flying. According to Linke, Killian said Bush was grounded in his fourth year of flying after he became incapable of flying or properly landing a plane.
"He was mucking up bad, Killian told us," Linke says. "He just became afraid to fly."
Killian has become a major figure in Bush's unfolding "Guardgate." CBS news anchor Dan Rather produced a memo signed by Killian saying he was pressured to sugarcoat Bush's service, among other things. A few days after the report, CBS backed off when other media questioned the veracity of the documents.
But flight logs released by the White House three weeks ago in response to a lawsuit by the Associated Press show a strange retraction of Bush's air time around that period. In February and March 1972, Bush switched from flying the F102A fighter jet, which the guard used to patrol U.S. borders, to a two-seat T-33 training jet. His superiors also returned him to flight simulator practice sessions.
But records suggest the extra training sessions didn't help. Logs show that in March and April 1972, Bush twice needed multiple tries to land the F102 fighter. Days later, on April 16, Bush piloted a plane for the Texas Air National Guard for the last time.
"He just couldn't cut it," says Linke. "I was let to believe he was kind of a coward." (Folio Weekly was able to reach two former Bush squadmates in Texas, but both declined to be interviewed.)
In May 1972, Bush left Texas. He headed to Alabama, where he requested assignment with the postal reserve unit. Bush's request was initially denied. Bu in August 1972, Killian stripped Bush of his flying duties for failing to take an annual physical. In September he was ordered to taken an administrative post with the Alabama Guard.
"[Killian] sent him to Alabama to fly desk," she recalls. "And then he never showed up." In Alabama, Bush's fellow guardsmen have said they don't remember ever seeing him.
For Linke, W's auxiliary service has become a very personal flashpoint. Linke's husband died while serving in the Texas Guard in 1973 after drinking at the officer's club. He nodded off at the wheel, drove into a lake and drowned. Linke was 27 years old with a 3-year-old son. She didn't know much about who W was then; his family was not on the national radar. "We were told his father was very wealthy Texan with CIA connections."
After Bush became President [sic], to the swelling sounds of military music and war cries, Linke found herself unable to shake her memory of Bush's abrupt departure from military service. When she saw him swoop onto an aircraft carrier wearing a green flight suit, she thought about that 1972 conversation with Killian. But it wasn't until the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth [sic] advertisements questioning John Kerry's military service began airing in Jacksonville that she became incensed and decided to speak up. "At least Kerry served," she says. "Bush stepped aside. Anyone else who was AWOL like that would have been in Leavenworth, and here he is president [sic] of the United States."
Linke, who voted for George Bush's dad, insists she's not just anti-Bush or anti-Republican. But she's unhappy with W's presidency [sic]. After the passage of the Patriot Act, Linke and a girlfriend made T-shirts that said, "One Nation Under Surveillance." And in early September, after seeing a swift boat ad, she went to the Duval County Democratic Party headquarters to pick up Kerry-Edwards signs and chose to volunteer her story. Democratic Party officials contacted Folio Weekly the same day. Linke spoke to Folio Weekly before the White House released Bush's flight logs, which appear to substantiate her story.
Unlike his mom, Linke's son Chris supports President [sic] Bush. But he doesn't doubt her version of events. "Is she says it happened, that's good enough for me," he says. He notes that flying fighter jets is a dangerous job and "not everyone's got the mettle," so he doesn't doubt that Bush could have lost his nerve.
But Chris Linke's faith in the president [sic] remains unshaken. When he goes to the polls in November, he says, "I will be voting for him."
Janet Linke has been thinking about George W. Bush a lot lately. Thirty-two years ago, her late husband Jan Peter Linke served briefly in the Texas Air National Guard's 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron. Bush's service in the same squadron has gotten plenty of mention in an election year when what you did during the Vietnam War is suddenly a litmus test of character. But Linke claims she knows a part of the story that nobody has mentioned.
According to Linke, a Jacksonville resident and artist, Bush's flying career was permanently disabled by a crippling fear of flying.
Linke's husband was admitted to the Texas Guard in the summer of 1972 to replace Bush. President [sic] Bush has said that he stopped flying fighter jets because the Alabama Guard unit didn't have jets, and he wanted to transfer to Alabama in order to work on a political campaign. But Linke says she heard a different story from her husband and Bush's squad commander, the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian. Shortly after her husband joined the Texas unit, Linke says, the couple discussed Bush's service with Killian at a social event.
Contrary to some news reports that suggest Killian admired Bush, Linke says the officer didn't have much use for the young Lieutenant. He mentioned that Bush appeared to have a drinking problem, she recalls, but he was most offended by another incapacity: his fear of flying. According to Linke, Killian said Bush was grounded in his fourth year of flying after he became incapable of flying or properly landing a plane.
"He was mucking up bad, Killian told us," Linke says. "He just became afraid to fly."
Killian has become a major figure in Bush's unfolding "Guardgate." CBS news anchor Dan Rather produced a memo signed by Killian saying he was pressured to sugarcoat Bush's service, among other things. A few days after the report, CBS backed off when other media questioned the veracity of the documents.
But flight logs released by the White House three weeks ago in response to a lawsuit by the Associated Press show a strange retraction of Bush's air time around that period. In February and March 1972, Bush switched from flying the F102A fighter jet, which the guard used to patrol U.S. borders, to a two-seat T-33 training jet. His superiors also returned him to flight simulator practice sessions.
But records suggest the extra training sessions didn't help. Logs show that in March and April 1972, Bush twice needed multiple tries to land the F102 fighter. Days later, on April 16, Bush piloted a plane for the Texas Air National Guard for the last time.
"He just couldn't cut it," says Linke. "I was let to believe he was kind of a coward." (Folio Weekly was able to reach two former Bush squadmates in Texas, but both declined to be interviewed.)
In May 1972, Bush left Texas. He headed to Alabama, where he requested assignment with the postal reserve unit. Bush's request was initially denied. Bu in August 1972, Killian stripped Bush of his flying duties for failing to take an annual physical. In September he was ordered to taken an administrative post with the Alabama Guard.
"[Killian] sent him to Alabama to fly desk," she recalls. "And then he never showed up." In Alabama, Bush's fellow guardsmen have said they don't remember ever seeing him.
For Linke, W's auxiliary service has become a very personal flashpoint. Linke's husband died while serving in the Texas Guard in 1973 after drinking at the officer's club. He nodded off at the wheel, drove into a lake and drowned. Linke was 27 years old with a 3-year-old son. She didn't know much about who W was then; his family was not on the national radar. "We were told his father was very wealthy Texan with CIA connections."
After Bush became President [sic], to the swelling sounds of military music and war cries, Linke found herself unable to shake her memory of Bush's abrupt departure from military service. When she saw him swoop onto an aircraft carrier wearing a green flight suit, she thought about that 1972 conversation with Killian. But it wasn't until the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth [sic] advertisements questioning John Kerry's military service began airing in Jacksonville that she became incensed and decided to speak up. "At least Kerry served," she says. "Bush stepped aside. Anyone else who was AWOL like that would have been in Leavenworth, and here he is president [sic] of the United States."
Linke, who voted for George Bush's dad, insists she's not just anti-Bush or anti-Republican. But she's unhappy with W's presidency [sic]. After the passage of the Patriot Act, Linke and a girlfriend made T-shirts that said, "One Nation Under Surveillance." And in early September, after seeing a swift boat ad, she went to the Duval County Democratic Party headquarters to pick up Kerry-Edwards signs and chose to volunteer her story. Democratic Party officials contacted Folio Weekly the same day. Linke spoke to Folio Weekly before the White House released Bush's flight logs, which appear to substantiate her story.
Unlike his mom, Linke's son Chris supports President [sic] Bush. But he doesn't doubt her version of events. "Is she says it happened, that's good enough for me," he says. He notes that flying fighter jets is a dangerous job and "not everyone's got the mettle," so he doesn't doubt that Bush could have lost his nerve.
But Chris Linke's faith in the president [sic] remains unshaken. When he goes to the polls in November, he says, "I will be voting for him."
Another dead guy with opinions.
Well, my mom told me that John Kerry was a homosexual.
Oh, and she is dead now.
Because Rather's been dead for years, too? (Movie trailer for The No Sense: "I talk to dead people...")
Fine. Just another opportunity to show those sexy pix of Bush in the flight suit after landing on the carrier!
Which of course, explains this picture....
What slimey stuff are the Dems going to come up next?
Uh, Dan...buddy...the horse is dead...please dismount. You might want to concern yourself less with your fictional little news show, and I use that term loosely in your case, and concern yourself with staying out of jail. K?
"Linke, who voted for George Bush's dad, insists she's not just anti-Bush or anti-Republican. But she's unhappy with W's presidency [sic]. After the passage of the Patriot Act, Linke and a girlfriend made T-shirts that said, "One Nation Under Surveillance." And in early September, after seeing a swift boat ad, she went to the Duval County Democratic Party headquarters to pick up Kerry-Edwards signs and chose to volunteer her story."
Of course we have another impartial source ...
Breaking News!!
Dead Witnesses Talk!
Film at 11!!
We mean it this time - CBS
Linke's husband was admitted to the Texas Guard in the summer of 1972 to replace Bush. . . . Why would a replacement be needed to pilot an aircraft that was being phased out?
Linke says, the couple discussed Bush's service with Killian at a social event. . . .
This was not Killian's opinion of record.
Linke's husband died while serving in the Texas Guard in 1973 after drinking at the officer's club. He nodded off at the wheel, drove into a lake and drowned.
The DU'ers are in love with this as their next rising star. Even the Palm Beach Post would laugh at this 'source.'

WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP!
WOW wonder how he landed on that carrier in the pacific. All those picts of him walking off the fight deck looked like he was a bundle of nerves alright.... Sheesh
**** Headline****
George Bush has fully recovered from his (alleged) lost nerve--Lands jet on aircraft carrier after Operation Iraqi Freedom! Nation rejoices!!!
And now you know the rest of the story!
Commander in Chief lands on USS Lincoln
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/05/01/bush.carrier.landing/
"It was the first time a sitting president has arrived on the deck of an aircraft carrier by plane. The jet made what is known as a "tailhook" landing, with the plane, traveling about 150 mph, hooking onto the last of four steel wires across the flight deck and coming to a complete stop in less than 400 feet.
The exterior of the four-seat Navy S-3B Viking was marked with "Navy 1" in the back and "George W. Bush Commander-in-Chief" just below the cockpit window. On the plane's tail was the insignia of the squadron, the "Blue Wolves."
Moments after the landing, the president, wearing a green flight suit and holding a white helmet, got off the plane, saluted those on the flight deck and shook hands with them. Above him, the tower was adorned with a big sign that read, "Mission Accomplished."
Bush said he did take a turn at piloting the craft.
"Yes, I flew it. Yeah, of course, I liked it," said Bush, who was an F-102 fighter pilot in the Texas Air National Guard after graduating from Yale University in 1968.
Wow. Both of the people she heard this from are dead. Dan is definitely scraping the bottom of the barrel. Whichever source gets their info from the most dead people win, I guess.
From what I've heard there's landing a plane...then there's landing a jet....then there's landing a jet on an aircraft carrier....after that....well, there's running a swift boat....there's running a swift boat with rice in your ....
If Dubya had a "crippling fear of flying", Air Force One would be a bus. This is more patent nonsense from the party of LOSERS!
atomicpossum just had a buckhead moment!
"Why would a replacement be needed to pilot an aircraft that was being phased out?"
So this lady is the "missing Linke"??
Hey, was Linke's husband's father a muckety-muck who used influence to get her husband in the Guard?
Why would George W. Bush have been afraid to fly? Didn't the Dems tell us this was the cushy gig his daddy got him so that he wouldn't "have to put his life on the line for his country"?
The Dems can't even get their stories straight with their slander.
This is so bogus, so over the top, even Bush bashers shouldn't take it seriously. A commander would never discuss an officer's performance with another officer and his wife, at a social event. Shame on this woman! She's lying....but not even doing a good job of it.
BTW, the organization that issued this piece of trash can be contacted at:
contactus@legitgov.org
Email away. I have and it was a very satisfying way to start a weekend.
This is the second article I have seen with the "President [sic]" bullsh@t. It just goes to show that they will never get over losing the last election, and especially not to someone that they believe to be a dim wit.
"What? Why should I have to go to the link to find out what you are talking about?"
Don't bother...it's one of those nutcake, DU-type websites that's meant to only trash Bush/Cheney. Not sure why the poster even bothered to waste the space on FR.
yeah here is some more stuff on the landing ... when you land on an aircraft carrier you have to "call the balls" this the lights at the end of the flight deck assuring the land officer that you see that your green and on the right glide slope ..... i hear that W had the stick and radioed the flight deck " I have the balls" and i hear the flight deck went nuts.... he of course did not land it but ... think about it...
Unreal.
Meaningless.
Just the Left's "cup of tea".
BTW, let's have a closer look at the site that put this up:
Citizens For Legitimate Government
".. Citizens For Legitimate Government is a multi-partisan activist group established to expose the Bush coup d'etat, and to oppose the Bush occupation in all of its manifestations. See our charter Yes, Gore DID win! Contribute Buy a CLG Bush Atrocities T-shirt! Sign Petitions the CLG has authored or endorsed CLG 9/11 Exposition Zone.."
I'm sure the President will answer all these questions during the 3 O'Reilly interviews. Hopefully, O'Reilly will shut his big yap.
I fault Bush for not jumping on this a long time ago. He kept this National Guard story alive.
While Kerry is making nice on all the talk shows, Bush is doing a serious sit down. Good idea, but why not with Brit Hume?
Hi I am Elma Hogkins from Alabama and last night I talked to my deceased husband using a medium and a Ouiji board. Sure enough my husband said through the Ouiji board that Lt. Bush had a serious drinking problem and that he had to drink a fifth of Jack Daniels just to fly.
Imagine how bad that looks? The shame of drinking Tennesee whiskey in Alabama.
sic,sic,sic.
Maybe Linke is Lucy Ramirez..... hmmmmm, wonder if she has a copy of MS Forger on her computer!!!!!
Fear of Flying: A Duval County Woman Says Nerves Ended W's National Guard Service In Texas -- by Susan Cooper Eastman
From Folio Weekly, Jacksonville, FL
Janet Linke has been thinking about George W. Bush a lot lately. Thirty-two years ago, her late husband Jan Peter Linke served briefly in the Texas Air National Guard's 111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron. Bush's service in the same squadron has gotten plenty of mention in an election year when what you did during the Vietnam War is suddenly a litmus test of character. But Linke claims she knows a part of the story that nobody has mentioned.
According to Linke, a Jacksonville resident and artist, Bush's flying career was permanently disabled by a crippling fear of flying.
Linke's husband was admitted to the Texas Guard in the summer of 1972 to replace Bush. President [sic] Bush has said that he stopped flying fighter jets because the Alabama Guard unit didn't have jets, and he wanted to transfer to Alabama in order to work on a political campaign. But Linke says she heard a different story from her husband and Bush's squad commander, the late Lt. Col. Jerry Killian. Shortly after her husband joined the Texas unit, Linke says, the couple discussed Bush's service with Killian at a social event.
Contrary to some news reports that suggest Killian admired Bush, Linke says the officer didn't have much use for the young Lieutenant. He mentioned that Bush appeared to have a drinking problem, she recalls, but he was most offended by another incapacity: his fear of flying. According to Linke, Killian said Bush was grounded in his fourth year of flying after he became incapable of flying or properly landing a plane.
"He was mucking up bad, Killian told us," Linke says. "He just became afraid to fly."
Killian has become a major figure in Bush's unfolding "Guardgate." CBS news anchor Dan Rather produced a memo signed by Killian saying he was pressured to sugarcoat Bush's service, among other things. A few days after the report, CBS backed off when other media questioned the veracity of the documents.
But flight logs released by the White House three weeks ago in response to a lawsuit by the Associated Press show a strange retraction of Bush's air time around that period. In February and March 1972, Bush switched from flying the F102A fighter jet, which the guard used to patrol U.S. borders, to a two-seat T-33 training jet. His superiors also returned him to flight simulator practice sessions.
But records suggest the extra training sessions didn't help. Logs show that in March and April 1972, Bush twice needed multiple tries to land the F102 fighter. Days later, on April 16, Bush piloted a plane for the Texas Air National Guard for the last time.
"He just couldn't cut it," says Linke. "I was let to believe he was kind of a coward." (Folio Weekly was able to reach two former Bush squadmates in Texas, but both declined to be interviewed.)
In May 1972, Bush left Texas. He headed to Alabama, where he requested assignment with the postal reserve unit. Bush's request was initially denied. Bu in August 1972, Killian stripped Bush of his flying duties for failing to take an annual physical. In September he was ordered to taken an administrative post with the Alabama Guard.
"[Killian] sent him to Alabama to fly desk," she recalls. "And then he never showed up." In Alabama, Bush's fellow guardsmen have said they don't remember ever seeing him.
For Linke, W's auxiliary service has become a very personal flashpoint. Linke's husband died while serving in the Texas Guard in 1973 after drinking at the officer's club. He nodded off at the wheel, drove into a lake and drowned. Linke was 27 years old with a 3-year-old son. She didn't know much about who W was then; his family was not on the national radar. "We were told his father was very wealthy Texan with CIA connections."
After Bush became President [sic], to the swelling sounds of military music and war cries, Linke found herself unable to shake her memory of Bush's abrupt departure from military service. When she saw him swoop onto an aircraft carrier wearing a green flight suit, she thought about that 1972 conversation with Killian. But it wasn't until the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth [sic] advertisements questioning John Kerry's military service began airing in Jacksonville that she became incensed and decided to speak up. "At least Kerry served," she says. "Bush stepped aside. Anyone else who was AWOL like that would have been in Leavenworth, and here he is president [sic] of the United States."
Linke, who voted for George Bush's dad, insists she's not just anti-Bush or anti-Republican. But she's unhappy with W's presidency [sic]. After the passage of the Patriot Act, Linke and a girlfriend made T-shirts that said, "One Nation Under Surveillance." And in early September, after seeing a swift boat ad, she went to the Duval County Democratic Party headquarters to pick up Kerry-Edwards signs and chose to volunteer her story. Democratic Party officials contacted Folio Weekly the same day. Linke spoke to Folio Weekly before the White House released Bush's flight logs, which appear to substantiate her story.
Unlike his mom, Linke's son Chris supports President [sic] Bush. But he doesn't doubt her version of events. "Is she says it happened, that's good enough for me," he says. He notes that flying fighter jets is a dangerous job and "not everyone's got the mettle," so he doesn't doubt that Bush could have lost his nerve.
But Chris Linke's faith in the president [sic] remains unshaken. When he goes to the polls in November, he says, "I will be voting for him."
Does that mean her husband didn't?
Fascinating, considering Bush was UN ambassador, not CIA Director, during that timeframe. Ford, not Nixon, appointed him CIA Director, which kind of screws up this woman's story.
They've been talking about this extensivly over there at du.
This might be more believable if you simply ignore all the time GWB has spent on Air Force One.
Hey, the dead are allowed to vote, why shouldn't they voice opinions.
What's with all the "President [sic]" entries? President is spelled correctly...
The writer needs a grammar and syntax checker; sounds like a 5th grader wrote this.
Does that mean her husband didn't?
"For Linke, W's auxiliary service has become a very personal flashpoint. Linke's husband died while serving in the Texas Guard in 1973 after drinking at the officer's club."
Appears her husband "was served" one too many.
Perhaps the water is nearly hot enough that we, the frogs,
will know we've had it. Now! Everyone! Out of your
comfort zones and into border closing, deportation mode!
Ah, yes. Another dead man for a source. Tsk tsk tsk.
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