Haitian storm toll may pass 1,800

The Guardian ^ | 04/09/23 | John Vidal and agencies in Gonaives

[Truth666]

Fears were growing for remote L'iles de la Tortue, which was was hit by a tsunami. Yolette Etienne, Oxfam's Haiti spokeswoman, said: "The situation is extremely serious. I don't know how much more we can take. It is difficult to assess the extent of the crisis, but many have died and others have had their homes and livelihoods destroyed.

[Truth666]

The question that was raised worldwide first in freerepublic the possibly greatest death toll ever of a tsunami / hurricane : island of 26,000 wiped off the face of the earth ?
CONFIRMED - 6 days LATER !

[COEXERJ145]

Does you get some thrill with natural disasters? Seems like that is all I ever see you post.

[Truth666]

No, the opposite. I get sad when I see people sticking their heads in the sand.

[SteveMcKing]

"Tsunamis", I believe by definition, only happen in the pacific ocean.

If it's from the atlantic ocean, then it's a hurricane.

[mountaineer]

News reports still say about 1,100 dead in Haiti (thankfully, I've found out my friend, a missionary in La Gonave, is not among them) - have they not updated the figures to factor in the apparent destruction of this island?

[COEXERJ145]

I get sad when I see people sticking their heads in the sand.

And what is that suppose to mean?

[sinkspur]

This guy is an end-times freak. Don't believe a single thing he posts.

[Jersey Republican Biker Chick]

I thought tsunami was Japanese for tidal wave. I could be wrong though.

[GATOR NAVY]

Tsunamis are seismic events, just to get your terminology straight. You're talking about a storm surge.

[Truth666]

This means that it's time to accept the truth

[leadpenny]

Are you thinking of typhoons v. hurricanes?

[Servant of the 9]

That wouldn't be a tsunami or tidal wave, but a surge tide.

So9

[Bon mots]

There is a storm surge that accompanies hurricanes, one of these could easily swamp an island and wash away a large enough swath if the island were small and flat enough. I think Tsunamis are seismic in nature... but then again, I'm no geologist nor meteorologist...

[BBell]

your thinking Typhoon

[ican'tbelieveit]

The article is calling it a tsunami. It is defined by webster as a "great sea wave" (to do with volcano/earthquake). But, a great storm surge is a great sea wave.

[sbelew]

Actually, the source article says tsunami. Wonder what the story is here? I seem to remember something about an earthquake. Separate events maybe?

[Truth666]

Here is the cause of the tsunami - this or another in the swarm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1221118/posts#5

[Truth666]

Here is the cause of the tsunami - this or another in the swarm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1221118/posts#5

[camas]

i think 'tsunamis' is the result of an earthquake. no matter where it is

[flashbunny]

I'm getting that vibe after looking through some of his / her posts.

There are some people who are only happy when they feel death and destruction is just around the corner. Maybe it makes them feel less insignificant if the world is going to end before they do...

[COEXERJ145]

This guy is an end-times freak.

I noticed that. The name is the biggest clue.

[Diddle E. Squat]

In your rush to declare every disaster a message from God, you completely overlook any fact that contradicts with your nutty false prophetism.

5 minutes of google research would have revealed that much of the island is above 100 feet in elevation, so it and all its population couldn't have been "wiped off the face of the earth." Perhaps a true disaster, but nothing like the apocalypse that you are trying to portray it as(much to your dissappointment, no doubt.)

[SteveMcKing]

Oh.

[Nick Danger]

I thought tsunami was Japanese for tidal wave. I could be wrong though.

You could also be right.

[Strategerist]

What you see here is idiocy by the media.

[Techster]

Tsunamis are tidal wave caused by a seismic event. Storm surge is abnormally high tide caused by water being blown toward land, ie hurricane or typhoon

[Strategerist]

There are tsunami in all oceans; Port Royal, Jamaica, was destroyed by one in the 1700s, and Lisbon Portugal suffered a severe one in the great Lisbon Eartquake.

However, there's certainly been no tsunami whatsoever anywhere near Haiti in years, and no quake remotely powerful enough to generate one.

[Diddle E. Squat]

dissappointment = disappointment

[capitan_refugio]

You shouldn't change the title of the article to reflect your oddball beliefs. The article has nothing to do with Tortuga Island.

[ican'tbelieveit]

That does not surprise me at all. Just giving the guy a break for using the term the article did. Still a tragedy if the island population was devastated.

[SE Mom]

Yep- and it stretches credulity to think an island could be wiped off the face of the earth and have nothing in the media about it - MoveOn.org would have another disaster to blame on GWB :)

[americanbychoice2]

Tsunamis are tidal waves. The pacific storms are called taifuns.

[Strategerist]

I don't think it was devastated; I think this is an example of the bad translation of the original article where they UN "Couldn't see the island" continuing to propagate through the media.

[Stentor]

To use the vernacular, this could be the dummest ass thread I have ever seen on Free Republic. It could make the beeber stuning thread appear to be a work of genius without its humor potential. Congratulations.

[JBCiejka]

What is the difference between a tidal wave and a storm surge? I thought they were the same thing.

[Doomonyou]

taifuns.

I assume that means "typhoon"?

[flashbunny]

you're setting the bar too low. Go back in truth666's posting history - there's some challengers to the throne inthere!

[independentmind]

Enough of this already.

A tsunami is a wave train, or series of waves, generated in a body of water by an impulsive disturbance that vertically displaces the water column. Earthquakes, landslides, volcanic eruptions, explosions, and even the impact of cosmic bodies, such as meteorites, can generate tsunamis. Tsunamis can savagely attack coastlines, causing devastating property damage and loss of life.

[americanbychoice2]

of course, used forign spelling (German). A lapse or brainfart, was just writing a German letter. :)

[Strategerist]

What is the difference between a tidal wave and a storm surge? I thought they were the same thing.

Actually the whole "tidal wave" term is confusing and that's the reason the scientific community has been dropping the term like a hot potato; as used by the public, the waves called "tidal waves" have NOTHING to do with tides.

There ARE something called "Tidal Bores." These are areas where due to geography lunar tides are so strong the tide comes in literally as a big wave; there are some rivers in China like this.

THEN you have storm surge from tropical cyclones (hurricanes, typhoons, etc.) This really isn't one big "wave" but a general rise in the water, with storm waves on TOP of it.

And a third type of wave are tsunamis, caused by underwater earthquakes, landslides, and volcanic eruptions. Actually these don't look like a big breaker as shown in the movies, either...it's a sudden rise in water level, really.

There really isn't anything that should be properly described by the term "tidal wave" anymore.

[JBCiejka]

Thank you for the definitions. It can get complicated for the "weather buff". But, one more question. I understand that you can forsee a storm surge or tsunami, but can the "tidal bores" be predicted before they occur, or is it unforseen?

[Truth666]

Actually, the source article says tsunami. Wonder what the story is here? I seem to remember something about an earthquake. Separate events maybe?
Information is presented separated. All you have to do is link it - more from the article :
"It appears that many people were swept away to the sea," said Dieufort Deslorges, a spokesman for Haiti's civil protection agency. "There are bodies still buried in mud and rubble, or floating in water, and that's not to mention the hundreds who are missing and the places we have not yet been able to reach."

[Shqipo]

Tsunami? Typhoon? Tidal Wave? I thought anything associated with over 1,000 deaths was instantly labeled a Quagmire?
Oh, sorry. I thought I was on that other site.

[traumer]

The timing.....

[VRWCTexan]

What am I missing here ??? - the original poster quoted directly from a published article with a proper link....

I don't see an so called declared message from God - other than in your critical posts about the poster???

[Diddle E. Squat]

The original title given by the poster was something along the lines of "Tortuga Island(pop. 26,000) wiped off the face of the earth by tsunami."

[flashbunny]

Check the thread starter's profile. I would guess the person you are questioning is basing this on a pattern shown by truth666. Lots of seeing signs of 'the end times' in every event.

[VRWCTexan]

Thanks!

[RightWhale]

Confirmed? For sure? 26,000 and nobody seems to notice.

[Truth666]

The UN is in control of Haiti. The UN decides what the media has to report. They decided that for the moment the toll that the world should see was confined to ONE city - and that's what we got so far. And even there ...