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Bush Twists Kerry's Words on Iraq (AP Barf Alert)
Yahoo (AP) ^ | 9/25/04 | JENNIFER LOVEN

Posted on 09/25/2004 1:29:39 AM PDT by The_Victor

WACO, Texas - President Bush (news - web sites) opened several new scathing lines of attack against Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites), charges that twisted his rival's words on Iraq (news - web sites) and made Kerry seem supportive of deposed dictator Saddam Hussein (news - web sites).

It was not unlike the spin that Kerry and his forces sometimes place on Bush's words.

Campaigning by bus through hotly contested Wisconsin on Friday, Bush sought to counter recently sharpened criticism by Kerry about his Iraq policies:

_He stated flatly that Kerry had said earlier in the week "he would prefer the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein to the situation in Iraq today." The line drew gasps of surprise from Bush's audience in a Racine, Wis., park. "I just strongly disagree," the president said.

But Kerry never said that. In a speech at New York University on Monday, he called Saddam "a brutal dictator who deserves his own special place in hell." He added, "The satisfaction we take in his downfall does not hide this fact: We have traded a dictator for a chaos that has left America less secure."

_Bush attacked Kerry for calling "our alliance 'the alliance of the coerced and the bribed.'"

"You can't build alliances if you criticize the efforts of those who are working side by side with you," the president said in Janesville, Wis.

Kerry did use the phrase to describe the U.S.-led coalition of nations in Iraq, in a March 2003 speech in California. He was referring to the administration's willingness to offer aid to other nations to gain support for its Iraq policies.

But Bush mischaracterized Kerry's criticism, which has not been aimed at the countries that have contributed a relatively small number of troops and resources, but at the administration for not gaining more participation from other nations.

_Bush also suggested Kerry was undercutting an ally in a time of need, and thus unfit to be president, when he "questioned the credibility" of Iraqi interim leader Ayad Allawi.

"This great man came to our country to talk about how he's risking his life for a free Iraq, which helps America," the president said in Janesville. "And Senator Kerry held a press conference and questioned Prime Minister Allawi's credibility. You can't lead this country if your ally in Iraq feels like you question his credibility."

Bush repeated the attack later in the day and Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) echoed the message in Lafayette, La. "I must say I was appalled at the complete lack of respect Senator Kerry showed for this man of courage," Cheney said.

Kerry's point was that the optimistic assessments of postwar Iraq from both Bush and Allawi didn't match previous statements by the Iraqi leader, nor the reality on the ground, and were designed to put the "best face" on failed policies.

"Facts can be stubborn things," said Kerry spokesman Phil Singer. "When there's a gap between the reality and the words coming out of the White House, we are going to point them out."

That's not to say Kerry hasn't been playing fast and loose with Bush's words.

Just Friday, the Kerry campaign sent an e-mail to supporters entitled "He said what?" citing Bush's remark that he had seen "a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better than here in America."

The e-mail from campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill accused the president of having "no plan to get us out of Iraq" and thinking "the future of Iraq is brighter than the future of America."

 

Bush has a plan for Iraq — Kerry just disagrees that it is working. And the president wasn't comparing Iraq's future to that of the United States, only accurately reflecting one recent survey in Iraq and the latest trends in America that asked participants for their assessment of the direction their countries are going.

After campaigning in Wisconsin, Bush settled into his ranch in Crawford, Texas, which will be his base of operations for several days as he crams for the first debate of the presidential campaign, to be held Thursday in Coral Gables, Fla.

The first practice session was expected to take place Saturday night, with Sen. Judd Gregg (news, bio, voting record), R-N.H., playing the part of Kerry for a couple of hours and a slew of Bush's most senior White House aides and outside advisers on hand, spokesman Scott McClellan said.


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Just in case there was any doubt as to who's side the AP is on...
1 posted on 09/25/2004 1:29:40 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: The_Victor

A P

Arab Propaganda


2 posted on 09/25/2004 1:31:22 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: The_Victor
This is editorializing and not a news piece.
3 posted on 09/25/2004 1:32:32 AM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: The_Victor

Hey, that was actually "fair and balanced" coming from the AP.


4 posted on 09/25/2004 1:34:26 AM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: The_Victor

Hey AP .. you're gonna need a new set a knee pads after that article


5 posted on 09/25/2004 1:35:18 AM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: The_Victor
Analyzing the article notice there is hardly a full sentence quotation. It is all snippets and out of context.
6 posted on 09/25/2004 1:35:40 AM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: The_Victor

didn't take much "twisting" to make him sound bad did it?


7 posted on 09/25/2004 1:35:55 AM PDT by Tarl3.16 (are there Christmas trees in Cambodia?)
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To: The_Victor

Kerry is just "twistin' in the wind"


8 posted on 09/25/2004 1:40:01 AM PDT by dafulmer
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To: The_Victor
Jennifer Loven is married to Roger Ballentine, who is president of Green Strategies, a consulting firm specializing in energy and environmental issues, and was previously deputy assistant to President Clinton for environmental initiatives and chairman of the White House Climate Change Task Force. He also sits on the board of directors of Solar Electric Light Fund (SELF)along with actors Ed Begley, Jr. and Larry Hagman. Jennifer Loven is a reporter for the Associated Press.
9 posted on 09/25/2004 1:40:27 AM PDT by kcvl
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Prior to serving in the White House, Roger was a partner at the Washington law firm of Patton, Boggs L.L.P., where he specialized in public policy, judicial reform and election law matters. Mr. Ballentine also was Adjunct Professor of Law at the Georgetown University Law Center, where he taught in the area of electoral and political law. He has also served as Special Counsel to the Democratic Leadership in the House of Representatives for the handling of election challenges, and has been a frequent television and radio commentator on various matters of public interest.
10 posted on 09/25/2004 1:43:59 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: endthematrix

This is editorializing and not a news piece.

I strongly agree.


11 posted on 09/25/2004 1:48:15 AM PDT by garylmoore (Repeat: They made a mistake, they didn't count of George W. Bush.)
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To: endthematrix

This is editorializing and not a news piece.

I strongly agree.


12 posted on 09/25/2004 1:48:15 AM PDT by garylmoore (Repeat: They made a mistake, they didn't count of George W. Bush.)
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To: kcvl

If anybody at CBS ever gets fired because of the forged documents, they'll have an AP job waiting for them.

The headline of this story could just as easily be: ASSOCIATED PRESS HACK TWISTS BUSH'S WORDS ON KERRY


13 posted on 09/25/2004 1:50:20 AM PDT by billclintonwillrotinhell
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To: garylmoore

You strongly agree...times two!


14 posted on 09/25/2004 1:50:30 AM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: The_Victor
"Just in case there was any doubt as to who's side the AP is on..."

No doubts here. They've shown their true colors before, but the "booing" story went over the top and SEARED their bias in my mind.

15 posted on 09/25/2004 1:51:42 AM PDT by mass55th (Kerry: Classless and clueless!!!)
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To: kcvl

The love of instant information...thanks!


16 posted on 09/25/2004 1:52:15 AM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: The_Victor
Bush Twists Kerry's Words on Iraq

Dubya is just trying to let JFK know that he doesn't hate him, and to help him save face, is twisting his words into believable comments to make the race interesting.

It will however still be a Bush landslide!

17 posted on 09/25/2004 1:54:32 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Enduring Freedom

al-JazAP


18 posted on 09/25/2004 1:55:30 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: The_Victor

So deductive logic as practiced by a Republican is now regarded as twisting words by the paleomedia. I'm thinking we need an AP internal investigation concurrent with the one at See BS.


19 posted on 09/25/2004 1:59:23 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Kerry/Edwards--When you're full of it you need two johns.)
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To: The_Victor

Who twists what?

Bush is a piker compaired to Kerry's message-twisting-in-the-wind campaign and his out and out lies.


20 posted on 09/25/2004 2:19:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

lol "piker"


21 posted on 09/25/2004 2:31:08 AM PDT by risk
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To: risk

...he can't hold a candle to Kerry...


22 posted on 09/25/2004 2:35:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: endthematrix

You strongly agree...times two

That happens to me a lot, I don't know why, I notice that it happens to other people also.


23 posted on 09/25/2004 2:39:02 AM PDT by garylmoore (Repeat: They made a mistake, they didn't count of George W. Bush.)
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To: Enduring Freedom

This same article was in my local paper this morning. The dims really have the news media (including Fox) working 24-7 to spin the latest Kerry. I heard one of the talking heads say Kerry had gathered his thoughts and now has a coherent message. And the dims thought 7 minutes was a long time for the President to gather his thoughts when told the nation had been attacked.

The AP should have to register as as 527! This "reporter" is a political operative just like Dan.


24 posted on 09/25/2004 2:47:07 AM PDT by PROUDAMREP ( Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: The_Victor
"This great man came to our country to talk about how he's risking his life for a free Iraq, which helps America," the president said in Janesville. "And Senator Kerry held a press conference and questioned Prime Minister Allawi's credibility. You can't lead this country if your ally in Iraq feels like you question his credibility."

Bush repeated the attack later in the day and Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) echoed the message in Lafayette, La. "I must say I was appalled at the complete lack of respect Senator Kerry showed for this man of courage," Cheney said.

Kerry's point was that the optimistic assessments of postwar Iraq from both Bush and Allawi didn't match previous statements by the Iraqi leader, nor the reality on the ground, and were designed to put the "best face" on failed policies.

"Facts can be stubborn things," said Kerry spokesman Phil Singer. "When there's a gap between the reality and the words coming out of the White House, we are going to point them out."

You left out the line where Kerry called him a puppet. Calling him a puppet for the US undermines his leadership.

25 posted on 09/25/2004 3:18:26 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: The_Victor

This is the lead story in both TOP NEWS and US NEWS on Earthlink's NEWS/START PAGE. AP controls Earthlink's NEWS PAGE. The Associated (with Kerry) Press will keep this headline active through Tuesday next week.


26 posted on 09/25/2004 3:21:15 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: The_Victor

I couldn't believe it when I saw this headline. That is completely outrageous and inappropriate. We should let AP know how we feel about this.

Especially considering in just the second paragraph they concede, "It was not unlike the spin that Kerry and his forces sometimes place on Bush's words."

Of course we've never seen any headline that says "Kerry Twists Bush's Words on Iraq."


27 posted on 09/25/2004 3:34:59 AM PDT by tdadams ('Unfit for Command' is full of lies... it quotes John Kerry)
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To: The_Victor
He stated flatly that Kerry had said earlier in the week "he would prefer the dictatorship of Saddam Hussein to the situation in Iraq today." ...But Kerry never said that.

The AP clearly has given up simply reporting the news and have gone into the campiagn public relations business. This is something you'd expect to hear from Howard Wolfson or Terry McAuliffe, not a news organization.

How many times have the Democrats "stated flatly" that Bush was AWOL from Guard duty in Alabama even though he met all the mandatory requirements, had the points required for good standing, and was given an honorable discharge?

When has the AP called the Democrats on that false charge and proclaimed "but that's not true."

I'd like to see that.

28 posted on 09/25/2004 3:40:25 AM PDT by tdadams ('Unfit for Command' is full of lies... it quotes John Kerry)
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To: The_Victor

Somebody had to straighten them out.


29 posted on 09/25/2004 3:45:08 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: The_Victor

Nice pair of kneepads you've got there, Jennifer.


30 posted on 09/25/2004 3:55:19 AM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: The_Victor

I wonder why AP has called out John Kerry and his pack of spinners on the line that "Dick Cheney is still getting a paycheck from Halliburton", even showing a clip of his latest tax records to ostensibly prove the point.

However, Kerry is lying. Flat out lying. Dick Cheney is NOT getting a paycheck from Halliburton. It's called deferred compensation. It's money that was earned, and deferred, when he was CEO of the company. It's quite common among corporate executives.

But Kerry knows his gullible band of Bush-Cheney haters probably don't know that, being as anti-capitalist as they are, and are likely to believe any false accusation about Bush-Cheney-Halliburton.


31 posted on 09/25/2004 3:57:02 AM PDT by tdadams ('Unfit for Command' is full of lies... it quotes John Kerry)
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To: kcvl; Alamo-Girl

Wasn't Patton, Boggs a Clinton defender law firm?

Why is their name ringing a bell?


32 posted on 09/25/2004 3:57:02 AM PDT by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: The_Victor

"and made Kerry seem supportive of deposed dictator Saddam Hussein."

Would someone please inform sKerry that if he's not AGAINST Saddam, he's FOR him?!!!


33 posted on 09/25/2004 3:59:51 AM PDT by Tucker39 (God bless the U.S.A.)
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To: tdadams

We need to see more of Howard Wolfson. It's only a matter of time before the snakes begin to crawl out of his mouth.

Another reason for re-electing the President... a full investigation of Boss Terry's dealings in Global Crossing.

Handcuffed... raincoat over his head... sharing a cell with Saddam...

PRICELESS!

Does anyone with two brain cells to rub together doubt that this racketeer was neck deep in the CBS fraud?


34 posted on 09/25/2004 4:16:07 AM PDT by joeystoy
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To: endthematrix

Bingo.


35 posted on 09/25/2004 4:19:23 AM PDT by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: The_Victor
This is not news -- it's an editorial -- I'm going to complain to the AP (I like wasting time).

Carolyn

36 posted on 09/25/2004 4:28:27 AM PDT by CDHart
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To: The_Victor
Twisted his words? Kerry should be so lucky because the words he's spouting now are meaningless.

Those of us who went through the agony of his speech and his appearance on Letterman the other day wish somebody would have told us what he said because Kerry sure didn't.

If I had one question for Kerry it would be this;

Are you physically incapable of saying anything positive or is it because you're a complete Clymer?
37 posted on 09/25/2004 4:28:36 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: Enduring Freedom

Kerry thinks nothing should be hard to attain and should not come with sacrifice...when the going gets tough he thinks we should get out...when the going got tough for him in Nam he 3 hearted himself home and left his brothers behind...


38 posted on 09/25/2004 4:34:59 AM PDT by databoss (WMD's, Syria and North Korea...)
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To: The_Victor

Kerry says, paraphrasing "the brave insurgents [terrorist] in Iraq will be successful in their struggle against American tyranny!"

Kerry says, paraphrasing "We will not allow American puppets like Allawi to deminish the accomplishments of the brave insurgents in Iraq against the illegal Ameican occupation!" (I think he got it from a North Vietnamese memo)

Once a traitor, always a traitor.


39 posted on 09/25/2004 4:39:01 AM PDT by LuckyHat (Kerry burned down my village...and all I got was this lousy tee-shirt.)
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To: The_Victor

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/9755846.htm

Bush slams Kerry for Allawi swipe

Campaigning in Wisconsin, the president blasted John Kerry for questioning the interim Iraqi leader's credibility.

By JENNIFER LOVEN

Associated Press


JANESVILLE, Wisc. - Democrat John Kerry wrongly questioned the credibility of the interim Iraqi leader, and ''you can't lead this country'' while undercutting an ally, President Bush said Friday.

On Thursday, Bush and interim Iraqi prime minister Ayad Allawi expressed hopeful words about the future of Iraq, which Kerry characterized as putting the ''best face'' on a Bush administration policy in Iraq that he said has gone wrong.

''This brave man came to our country to talk about how he's risking his life for a free Iraq, which helps America,'' Bush said at a campaign event in battleground Wisconsin. ``And Senator Kerry held a press conference and questioned Mr. Allawi's credibility. You can't lead this country if your ally in Iraq feels like you question his credibility."
snip

Notice the same author, different words. The "twisting" part is missing...Yahoo or AP changing words?


40 posted on 09/25/2004 4:54:42 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

Kerry loves to criticize a war that he has not visited, and the leader, Allawi, that he did not care to listen to in person.


41 posted on 09/25/2004 4:55:05 AM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: The_Victor

This is an organized effort by the Dems. They always refer to a speech by Kerry but it was on the Letterman show that Kerry was asked if we would be in Iraq if he were President and he said "No". By referring to the NYU speech the Dems, with the unquestioning assistance of the mainstream media, shape the battlefield to their advantage.
Kerry flip-flops endlessly, so they always have some Kerry statement to refer to that favors their point of view. The RNC should have made more references directly to the Letterman appearance in making it's charge. When the Dems counter and cite a specific appearance they are sending a signal to the media as to the Kerry speech that is to be used to counter the RNC point, thus sending specific directions to the MSM and shaping the battlefield to their advantage.


42 posted on 09/25/2004 4:59:19 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet
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To: The_Victor
Kerry's point was that the optimistic assessments of postwar Iraq from both Bush and Allawi didn't match previous statements by the Iraqi leader, nor the reality on the ground

Allawi is a better judge of the reality on the ground in Iraq than Kerry.

43 posted on 09/25/2004 5:00:00 AM PDT by alnick (US forces armed with what? Spitballs??)
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--- Just as he lied about our troops three decades ago, encouraging our enemies of the day in North Vietnam, today he's pandering to a new enemy.

Imagine the encouragement the terrorists, insurgents and global extremists draw from Kerry's declarations of defeat, from his insistence that our efforts in Iraq and in the War on Terror have failed.
In an election year, our engagement in Iraq is a legitimate topic for sober debate. But Kerry isn't serious. All he does is to declare defeat. He certainly doesn't want to be al Qaeda's candidate, but he's made himself into their man through his irresponsibility.

If Kerry were insisting, without caveats, that we're going to stay the course and win, while backing up his criticisms with convincing details of how he would improve our efforts, that would be fine. But his mad claims of disaster and his inability to maintain a firm position unquestionably give aid and comfort to the enemy.

The terrorists and their allies already intended to increase the level of violence in Iraq before November. But Kerry's pandering has encouraged them to pull out all the stops....Ralph Peters NY.Post 9/23/04
--- William Kristol: Then Kerry credits Kofi Annan, who a few days before had condemned the "illegal" American war in Iraq. asked about Kofi Annan's description of the war in Iraq as an "illegal" invasion. Kerry answered: "I don't know what the law, the legalities are that he's referring to. I don't know." So the U.S. government is accused of breaking international law, and Kerry chooses not to defend his country against the charge, or to label it ridiculous or offensive. He is agnostic.

Then Kerry continued: "Well, let me say this to all of you: That underscores what I am saying. If the leader of the United Nations is at odds with the legality, and we're not working at getting over that hurdle and bringing people to the table, as I said in my speech yesterday, it's imperative to be able to build international cooperation." It's our fault that the U.N. is doing almost nothing to help in Iraq. After all, according to Kerry, "Kofi Annan offered the help of the United Nations months ago. This president chose to go the other way."

Leave aside the rewriting of history going on here. The president of the United States had just appealed for help from the United Nations and its member states to ensure that elections go forward in Iraq. Kerry could have reinforced that appeal for help with his own, thereby making it a bipartisan request. He chose instead to give the U.N., France, Germany, and everyone else an excuse to do nothing over these next crucial five weeks, with voter registration scheduled to begin November 1. If other nations prefer not to help the United States, the Democratic presidential candidate has given them his blessing.

--- Two days later, Iraqi prime minister Ayad Allawi spoke to a joint meeting of Congress. Sen. Kerry could not be troubled to attend, as a gesture of solidarity and respect. Instead, Kerry said in Ohio that Allawi was here simply to put the "best face on the policy." So much for an impressive speech by perhaps America's single most important ally in the war on terror, the courageous and internationally recognized leader of a nation struggling to achieve democracy against terrorist opposition.

--- But Kerry's rudeness paled beside the comment of his senior adviser, Joe Lockhart, to the Los Angeles Times: "The last thing you want to be seen as is a puppet of the United States, and you can almost see the hand underneath the shirt today moving the lips."


--- And hasn't the Kerry Campaign already told the Australian people that they are a bigger terrorism target now by standing with the U.S. on Iraq, and thereby strengthened the hand of John Howard's opponent, who has promised to pull out of Iraq if he's elected.

If that doesn't undermine the war in Iraq, I don't know what does. There are probably many more instances, but this was just in the last few days.
John Kerry has decided to pursue a scorched-earth strategy. He is prepared to insult allies, hearten enemies, and denigrate efforts to succeed in Iraq. His behavior is deeply irresponsible.








44 posted on 09/25/2004 5:00:15 AM PDT by anglian
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To: bitt

Talk about "twisting words"...

This article (spectacularly) ignores Kerry's claim that Republicans want to re-institute the draft when in fact it is Democrats who are pushing for it. This isn't a mere twisting of words on Kerry's part, it's an outright lie! But a Kerry lie, apparantly, isn't news worthy.


45 posted on 09/25/2004 5:11:06 AM PDT by Trippin
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To: endthematrix

I strongly agree.... too!


46 posted on 09/25/2004 5:12:57 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: The_Victor

Does anyone know how to e-mail comments to Jennifer Loven?

These writers need to be challened when they are inaccurate.


47 posted on 09/25/2004 5:19:12 AM PDT by Duoshoes (Let's challenge her)
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To: Duoshoes
Go to this link: http://www.ap.org/pages/contact/contact.html and you can email their headquarters. I wouldn't waste time on Jennifer.
48 posted on 09/25/2004 5:28:58 AM PDT by Alissa
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To: kcvl
You should have used this paragraph:

Roger previously was a senior member of the White House staff, serving President Bill Clinton as Chairman of the White House Climate Change Task Force and Deputy Assistant to the President for Environmental Initiatives. In these capacities, he directed the administration's efforts on climate change, represented the President in numerous international meetings and negotiations, participated at the highest levels in the development and implementation of energy, clean air and other environmental policy, and advised the President on federal lands and coastal protection policies. Prior to being named Deputy Assistant to the President, Mr. Ballentine was Special Assistant to the President for Legislative Affairs, where he focused on energy and environment issues.

This story ought to be Exhibit B in the case against the scribblers, Dan Blather's INVESTIGATIVE REPORT being Exhibit A.

49 posted on 09/25/2004 5:30:55 AM PDT by GeneD
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To: The_Victor

So, it's OK for Kerry and team to take things out of context and tell outhright lies, but it's not Ok for team Bush to state the meaning of Kerry's words. Anyone with half a brain knows that the meaning portrayed by Kerry was that we would be better off if we had left The Butcher of Baghdad in place...


50 posted on 09/25/2004 5:31:22 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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