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Counties want to end medical payments for undocumented workers
The Times-News (Idaho) ^ | 25 September 2004 | AP Staff

Posted on 09/25/2004 6:54:18 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder

COEUR D'ALENE -- The Idaho Association of Counties said it will try to pass legislation next year that would stop local governments from having to pay for medical care of illegal immigrants.

The taxpayer-funded organization made the decision at its annual conference this week in northern Idaho.

The proposed law would allow county governments to reject financial assistance applications for medical care under the state's indigent medical laws, plus other services currently used by illegal immigrants.

Twin Falls County Commissioner Gary Grindstaff said the federal government should be footing the bill, not the counties.

"They sneak in here illegally and (the federal government) doesn't take much responsibility when they do," Grindstaff said. "We think the federal government should pay for it if they're going to let them sneak in. Still, it's tax dollars one way or the other."

Grindstaff said the resolution could be a "Catch 22" for Twin Falls County "because we own the hospital. If the county doesn't pay, the hospital will have to take care of them anyway."

The effort is being championed by Robert Vasquez, the Canyon County Commissioner who recently tried to invoice the government of Mexico $2 million for reimbursement of jail and medical treatment costs of that country's citizens.

Vasquez said the change will serve notice "that medical care is no longer an option that Idaho taxpayers will freely provide," Vasquez said.

"We need to deal with this issue before it becomes a crisis not only for Canyon County, but all of Idaho," he said.

Gerald Goodenough, an Oneida County commissioner, cast the only vote against the resolution.

"They are providing services, doing jobs our citizens won't do," Goodenough said. "When they end up getting sick, what do we do?"

But Vasquez said that hospitals, which already pass on many medical bills as uncollectible, should not be passing the burden of illegal immigrants to counties.

"We're not going to refuse to give care to people coming to the emergency room," he said. "But after-care is not an emergency."

Vasquez refused to discuss his own lineage.

"I don't see myself as Hispanic or Spanish. I'm an American," he said.

State law requires county governments to pay up to $10,000 for qualified applicants. For bills higher than the $10,000 limit, the Catastrophic Health Care Cost Program kicks in to pay the rest.

The medical indigent program is not an entitlement, a grant or a gift. When patients file their applications, the county files a lien against their property, which could include their home, personal property or future earnings.

Other members of the Association of Counties were not available for further comment on Thursday.

Leo Morales, a farmworker advocate and organizer with Idaho Community Action Network, said the counties' efforts are ill-informed attempts to vilify an entire class of people.

"Undocumented community members are also making contributions and paying taxes," Morales said. "It's absurd to not offer any services to people in the community who also pay taxes."

Morales said Vasquez's "extreme ideas" are not represented by the vast majority of Idaho residents.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: California; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: aliens; benefits; illegaaliens
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1 posted on 09/25/2004 6:54:18 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder
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To: B4Ranch; madfly; FITZ; Reaganwuzthebest; hsmomx3; Joe Hadenuf; 4Freedom; Ajnin; Marine Inspector; ..

Ping!


2 posted on 09/25/2004 6:55:06 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

If welfare wasn't more attractive than working, Americans would fill these jobs.


3 posted on 09/25/2004 7:00:47 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: JackelopeBreeder

This is either the third or fourth article I've posted about the esteemed Mr. Vasquez.

Maybe I should email him a courtesy copy of Arizona's Proposition 200. It is chock full of similar good ideas.


4 posted on 09/25/2004 7:06:15 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

You mean that some government officials IN THIS COUNTRY have finally figured out that it is AN OBSCENE PROPOSITION THAT ANY TAXPAYER IN THIS COUNTRY PAY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS IN ANY FORM OR FASHION????

This is scary -- WHERE DID THIS LOGIC COME FROM ???


5 posted on 09/25/2004 7:18:02 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Vasquez refused to discuss his own lineage. "I don't see myself as Hispanic or Spanish. I'm an American," he said.

This should be every American's attitude, and it's how American citizens should relate to each other.

6 posted on 09/25/2004 7:30:03 PM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; ...
Travesty heaped upon insult. I'd like my country back.

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7 posted on 09/25/2004 7:30:59 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (America first!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

If these guys keep it up, I'm going to have to consider a move to Idaho. I like this.


8 posted on 09/25/2004 7:48:08 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Bump!


9 posted on 09/25/2004 8:04:16 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: JackelopeBreeder; All
"They are providing services, doing jobs our citizens won't do," Goodenough said.

Reduce Goodenough's pay to 5 bucks an hour and see how long HE is willing to do THAT job.

MYTH = It's the job.

TRUTH = It's the offered pay.

10 posted on 09/25/2004 8:08:36 PM PDT by TLI ( . . . ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA . . . . . .)
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To: barbcsr

send this to T :)


11 posted on 09/25/2004 8:22:28 PM PDT by kstewskis (BUSH-GIBSON 2004)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Political correctness demands these illegal aliens be refered to as "Undocumented Workers". Now they are calling themselves the "undocumented community" and claim they are entitled to benefits because they are paying taxes. They should be sent back to where they came from and pay taxes there and work for medical benefits in their own countries.


12 posted on 09/25/2004 8:36:30 PM PDT by JoeBob (If you live like sheep the wolves will eat you.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
If the county doesn't pay, the hospital will have to take care of them anyway."

Why?

13 posted on 09/25/2004 8:38:34 PM PDT by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
The effort is being championed by Robert Vasquez, the Canyon County Commissioner who recently tried to invoice the government of Mexico $2 million for reimbursement of jail and medical treatment costs of that country's citizens.

I like this guy. He's got a spine. We need an American Nationalist like Mr. Vasquez as Commander in Chief.

14 posted on 09/25/2004 9:30:35 PM PDT by Missouri
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To: Jim Noble

Legally speaking, no reason at all. The hospital is only required to provide emergency treatment and stabilization.

If I was a hospital administrator I'd be looking at this equation:

Full uncompensated treatment = $xx,000 or even $xxx,000.

Plane ticket to Mexico City = $1000 or less.

Cut your losses, slick.


15 posted on 09/25/2004 9:34:20 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

How about....deport them? Load them onto old schoolbuses, and drive them to the border and drop them off.


16 posted on 09/25/2004 9:57:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Wishful thinking I'm afraid.

Judges: $2 million illegal
should have stayed in U.S.

Appeals court says hospital erred
in sending Guatemalan home after
2 years of treatment

Source: WorldNetDaily

17 posted on 09/26/2004 5:03:52 AM PDT by Ron H. (If Bush is really seriuos about the WoT, then why are our borders still standing wide open?!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Legally speaking, no reason at all. The hospital is only required to provide emergency treatment and stabilization.

There are other problems though --- for example here a lung cancer patient came up from Mexico --- legally with a visitor visa --- like so many do --- to have free health care provided by the chump taxpayers here. He got his free MRIs, Cat Scans, chemo and all the rest --- he was ready to go back home --- all the emergency care and expensive free chemo and radiation was already given --- but the problem was the oxygen tank he needed --- the Mexican government wouldn't provide him one. So he has to stay here and get routine follow-up care provided to him by us.

18 posted on 09/26/2004 7:52:58 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: JackelopeBreeder

It's very important that a very large portion of the freebies from Mexico come here perfectly legally --- they arrive with shopping passes and visitor visas --- but head right on over to a medical center instead. Or they come to visit an aunt --- legally --- and happen to give birth during the visit --- then stay forever collecting the welfare checks from the baby.


19 posted on 09/26/2004 7:54:45 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Bill the federal government enough and eventually someone in DC will wake up... or not.


20 posted on 09/26/2004 8:38:28 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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