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Allawi vs. Kerry: How did this confrontation happen?
Manchester Union Leader ^ | September 26, 2004 | Editorial

Posted on 09/26/2004 1:42:24 AM PDT by billorites

TWO WEEKS after John Kerry called the Iraq war “the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time,” and two days after Kerry said he would not have invaded Iraq had he known what we know now, Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi spoke before a joint session of Congress, saying, “It’s my honor to come to Congress and to thank this nation and its people for making our cause your cause, our struggle your struggle. We are better off, you are better off and the world is better off without Saddam Hussein.”

After Allawi’s speech, Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart called Allawi a Bush puppet. “The last thing you want to be seen as is a puppet of the United States, and you can almost see the hand underneath the shirt today moving the lips,” he said.

Two days later, Kerry said, “The invasion of Iraq was a profound diversion from the battle against our greatest enemy — al-Qaida.”

Kerry speaks a great deal about the need to strengthen relationships with our allies. How does personally insulting the Prime Minister of Iraq and suggesting that his country should have been left to writhe under Saddam’s heel help in this regard? How does calling America’s allies “window dressing” and “a coalition of the coerced and the bribed” help?

Apparently Kerry believes an American leader should speak ill only of those allies who actually stick with the United States, and never of those who abandon us in time of need.

In the 1970s, Allawi was nearly hacked to pieces by thugs suspected of being Saddam’s agents. Since Saddam’s fall he has survived four assassination attempts. Every day he risks his life to make Iraq safe and free. One would think that Kerry would have the wisdom, or at least the class, to disagree with Allawi’s assessment of the situation in Iraq without dismissing the man as nothing more than a prop of the President’s.

Allawi painted a prettier picture of Iraq than many other Iraqis would have done. But as President Bush noted last week, polls of real Iraqis actually in Iraq show that they think the picture is rosier than the one Kerry is presenting.

The truth is, both sides are exaggerating for political effect. If Kerry is going to insist that America never should have replaced Hussein with Allawi, the least he could do is make his case without smearing an Iraqi patriot who has undertaken tremendous personal risk to try to secure democracy for his country.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allawi; kerry; kerryiraq

1 posted on 09/26/2004 1:42:24 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites
Kerry is a puppet. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
2 posted on 09/26/2004 1:45:44 AM PDT by MrMarbles
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To: billorites

After Allawi’s speech, Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart called Allawi a Bush puppet. “The last thing you want to be seen as is a puppet of the United States, and you can almost see the hand underneath the shirt today moving the lips,” he said.

Despicable statement.


3 posted on 09/26/2004 1:45:50 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: MrMarbles

Yeah, but who's hand is up his ass?


4 posted on 09/26/2004 1:52:58 AM PDT by Remember_Salamis (Freedom is Not Free)
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To: MEG33

Exactly what I have come to expect from a former Clintonite.
Kerry should be ashamed of himself. He's still fighting the Vietnam War. That is what the anti-war activist thought of the South Vietnamese too! The thought of this traitor becoming president makes my stomach turn.


5 posted on 09/26/2004 1:53:37 AM PDT by Cricket24
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To: MEG33
The infantile nastiness of that statement was almost inconceivable to me.

It was 4th grade playground level, through and through.

I wouldn't be surprised if Lockhart started snapping bra-straps......literally.  I really wouldn't.

6 posted on 09/26/2004 1:54:22 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: MrMarbles

Democrats & Terrorists take the same stance on Allawi...Hmmm.


7 posted on 09/26/2004 1:56:15 AM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Great analogy!


8 posted on 09/26/2004 1:58:11 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: billorites

Lockhart should know about puppets, hes got his hand up Kerrys butt now. They make me sick.


9 posted on 09/26/2004 2:05:17 AM PDT by donnab
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To: Psycho_Bunny

"How does calling America’s allies “window dressing” and “a coalition of the coerced and the bribed” help?

Apparently Kerry believes an American leader should speak ill only of those allies who actually stick with the United States, and never of those who abandon us in time of need."

What a stunning example of Kerry's more diplomatic ability to win friends and create more allies...What a nuanced and sensitive fellow is he../S


10 posted on 09/26/2004 2:05:51 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: billorites
Joe Lockhart called Allawi a Bush puppet. “The last thing you want to be seen as is a puppet of the United States, and you can almost see the hand underneath the shirt today moving the lips,” he said.

If there were even the tiniest shred of decency in Kerry or any of his "campaign advisers", Lockhart would be forcefully and publicly ejected from the campaign. But apparently, decency is less important than trying to score cheap shots.

11 posted on 09/26/2004 2:08:42 AM PDT by spodefly (A bunny-slippered operative in the Vast Right-Wing Pajama Party.)
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To: MrMarbles

John Kerry is acting true to form...he HATES this country, always has, and always will.


12 posted on 09/26/2004 2:16:07 AM PDT by des
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To: des
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13 posted on 09/26/2004 2:16:53 AM PDT by MrMarbles
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To: MEG33
Thank goodness Kerry is taking the advice of those who have urged him to 'hit Bush hard.' To really hit someone a belly whopper, to go the extra mile and make an emotional impact, you have to dig deep inside of yourself to the place where your true political philosophy resides. So, when Kerry says Allawi is an American puppet, or condones his own staff statements that Allawi is an American puppet, we get the starkest expose of the fact that Kerry is philosphical kin to Castro and only distantly related to Camelot. Kerry believes that America is a regime without true allies, and those promoting liberty for the sake of liberty have suspect values at best.
Bush should politely put aside answering the very first question at the debates and immediately expound upon the Allawi insult. This statment alone is enough to discredit anyone from holding the Presidency. We all know that the platforms of the Communist party and the Democratic party are essentially the same. In the passion of the final sprint to the finish line, it's become grossly apparent.
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14 posted on 09/26/2004 2:19:24 AM PDT by Dan Lacey (<a href="http://www.faithmouse.com"> www.faithmouse.com</a>)
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To: billorites

This flap over Alawi is a figure of the end game for both sides.

Kerry has read the polls and concluded he cannot win after the Swift Boat Veterans had stripped him naked and revealed him not to be a hero but an opportunist. Nothing he attempted predicated upon this false image would be accepted by the American people. Hence, Kerry has moved to new ground. If he is to be labeled as a anti war candidate, he might as well harvest the left wing support there and motivate the base.

In addition, Kerry knows he can count on the media to carry him as long as this election is Vietnam redux. So Kerry must paint Iraq as a quagmire and the press will amplify the message.

So, Kerry attacks Alawi as part of a hopeless cause. Bush counterattacks that Kerry is undermining the war. Thanks to the Swifties Bush can credibly make this argument without serious backlash.

As long as the debate is not whether Iraq is a quagmire but whether Kerry is undermining the war, or even whether Bush is unfair in the criticism, Kerry loses. This will be the pattern for the next six weeks with Kerry looking to break out of this stalemate before it is too late. Expect him to try something dramatic to make this case in the first debate which is the only debate about foreign policy. If Kerry cannot change the dynamic in the first debate, he has no other real opportunity and must pray for an intervening event, like Madrid, which will determine the election.

Look also for the press to try to bust Kerry out of this box, probably with the quagmire argument. They thought they had another prison scandal with the Guard duty business but that might have been their last chance.


15 posted on 09/26/2004 2:23:49 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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To: billorites

And how is it Kerry expects do work with these people as president after he's called them all these ugly things???

Kerry is truly a bad man.


16 posted on 09/26/2004 2:28:40 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: nathanbedford

Five weeks and two days.

Then no more Kerry.


17 posted on 09/26/2004 2:31:48 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: billorites

Clinton must be paying Lockhart really well; he's was in the middle of the forged memos, and now this.


18 posted on 09/26/2004 4:49:00 AM PDT by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: billorites
Apparently Kerry believes an American leader should speak ill only of those allies who actually stick with the United States, and never of those who abandon us in time of need.

I hope Bush makes a similar point in the debates so that the public latches on to this.

19 posted on 09/26/2004 4:53:08 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Vegetarian: American Indian term for "Bad shot")
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To: billorites
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To understand John Kerry is to understand his dad. Richard Kerry published his only book, The Star-Spangled Mirror, in 1990. He writes:
"Americans are inclined to see the world and foreign affairs in black and white. They celebrate their own form of government and denigrate all others, making them guilty of what he calls 'ethnocentric accommodation' -- everyone ought to be like us. As a result, America has committed the 'fatal error' of 'propagating democracy' and fallen prey to 'the siren's song of promoting human rights,' falsely assuming that our values and institutions are a good fit in the Third World. And, just as Americans exaggerate their own goodness, they exaggerate their enemies' badness. The Soviet Union wasn't nearly as imperialistic as American politicians warned. Seeing the Soviet Union as the aggressor in every instance, and the U.S. as only reacting defensively, relieves an American observer from the need to see any parallel between our use of military power in distant parts of the world, and the Soviet use of military power outside the Soviet Union. . . . Third world Marxist movements were autonomous national movements -- outside Moscow's orbit."

More on the John F. Kerry Timeline.
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20 posted on 09/26/2004 5:03:14 AM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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To: billorites
PRESIDENT BUSH NEEDS TO WACK KERRY ON THIS IN THE DEBATE. Tell him that kissing up to anti-American leaders like Chirac while insulting Allawi and the leaders of our coalition is not statesmanship; it's reprehensible foolishness.
21 posted on 09/26/2004 5:04:56 AM PDT by Shqipo (The gloves are on and the corners are empty.)
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To: christie

"Kerry speaks a great deal about the need to strengthen relationships with our allies. How does personally insulting the Prime Minister of Iraq and suggesting that his country should have been left to writhe under Saddam’s heel help in this regard? How does calling America’s allies “window dressing” and “a coalition of the coerced and the bribed” help?"

This is an example of the diplomacy Kery would use in order to get more allies to support our cause.


22 posted on 09/26/2004 5:06:12 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: billorites
Two days later, Kerry said, "The invasion of Iraq was a profound diversion from the battle against our greatest enemy -- al-Qaida."

Was that before or after he asserted that terrorists were pouring into Iraq in order to confront Americans?

23 posted on 09/26/2004 5:07:00 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Go Gordon

This is exactly what I have said. Kerry talks about allies, but when someone really needs us they aren't "good enough" to be our friends. If they are under attack, they don't deserve help because they "don't understand democracy."

If it were true that the Iraqis didn't understand democracy, then the terrorists would just lay low and wait for us to leave. Then they would make their move. They are acting now because they are afraid that once the Iraqis vote it will be too late. Even the terrorists understand democracy!

Kerry trashed the S. Vietnamese by saying they were drunks who shot at him. He called te S. Vietnamese leaders corrupt but never noted the bloody purges in the North. He made false allegations about rroutine war crimes by American soldiers. He parroted all the communist propaganda of the time.

The truth is that he isn't going to get the Russians, French or Germans on board in Iraq. They were getting money from the Oil for Food program. Saddam's corruption served them. The slavery and degredation of the Iraqi people served them.



24 posted on 09/26/2004 5:09:13 AM PDT by Snapple
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To: Cboldt

IMHO...Allawi is a better man, friend, ally and defender of liberty than Kerry or any living RAT.


25 posted on 09/26/2004 5:13:08 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: Snapple
The truth is that he isn't going to get the Russians, French or Germans on board in Iraq.

I'll take the Brits, Italians, Poles, (and Aussies) any day over the three aforementioned.

26 posted on 09/26/2004 5:36:43 AM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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To: billorites

Perceptions of success in Iraq is the real war.

AND THE LEFT IS WINNING THE WAR OF PERCEPTIONS IN IRAQ.

Think about it.

Very few of us will ever visit Iraq, meet an Iraqi or even a soldier with first-hand information.

Everything we, and the world, know about this war, is filtered through the media.

The Left know this all to well, and have engaged Michael Moore, AP, AFP, CBS, NYT, Reuters, MTV, etc. to claim we are losing.

In rebuttal, where the hell is the White House Public Relations team? Where are the CIA psyops teams?

We need a major change in tactics.

We need to invest major resources into to winning the war of perceptions in Iraq.

The benefits?

1. Strengthen American resolve. Who doesn't want to be on the winning team? Who doesn't love hearing about the frequent and ruthless killing of terrorist leaders? Who doesn't love watching military videos with imploding terrorists? Who doesn't love seeing Iraqi children going to school, giving flowers and kissing soldiers? The recent images out of Iraq are predominantly Abu Ghraib torture, burning Humvees and beheadings. Time to turn Iraq into the American GI Dance Revue, Oprah and John Wayne. SHOW IT.

2. Weaken terrorist resolve. Their weak communication links make them heavily dependent on outside news. Inundate them with bad stuff. Sabotage and infiltrate Al Jazeera. CONTROL IT.

3. Strengthen Iraqi resolve. The fence-sitters will move positively toward peaceful goals only when they know the resistance is defeated. They are easily influenced by primitive propaganda. USE IT.

4. Strengthen World resolve. The envious Euroweasels are looking to knock us down and leading the assault at the UN. Start applying financial and political muscle to tie support of America to continuing support of our efforts. Money Talks. SPEND IT.

5. Preempt Future Conflicts. Early images of American fighter jets and precision munitions targeting scared the daylights out of foreign leaders in countries like Libya. Time to ramp it up again, and demonstrate to the world that American military might is invincible. FLAUNT IT.


27 posted on 09/26/2004 5:38:41 AM PDT by Enduring Freedom (Socialism Is the Enemy of Mankind, Democrats Its Traveling Salesmen)
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To: lepton

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28 posted on 09/26/2004 5:41:21 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Cricket24
Don't get me wrong, never in a million years could I conceive of a Kerry presidency, but when he was walking on eggshells to minimize he contradictions, he was somewhat tolerable.

Now, this guy has confirmed that he has no moral courage and has begun to say or do whatever it takes to pander to the far left. My blood pressure rises every time I see him on TV. His campaign is truly in its death throws and don't be surprised if the Democrats start cutting him off to try and safe some Senate and Congressional races.
29 posted on 09/26/2004 5:49:26 AM PDT by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: billorites

Kerry is as typical of a left-wing liberal as they come. He has not changed since his Vietnam-protesting days.

The old formula (which he still follows) is: treat your allies like enemies, treat neutrals as friends, and your enemies as if they were neutrals.

A good shrink could probably figure out what is going on here: that denigrating an ally like Allawi is an indirect way of turning against your own country without directly appearing to do so. At its base, the motive is anti-American.

Do I impune Kerry's patriotism? If I could find any sign of patriotism in him, I would (indeed) impune it.


30 posted on 09/26/2004 6:02:48 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: billorites
JOE LOCKHART Is still beholding to Clinton if Kerry Wins hilly baby wont be able to run for president in/08 connect the dots.
31 posted on 09/26/2004 6:43:00 AM PDT by solo gringo (Don't be a girlie man vote Bush/Cheney in/04)
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