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What would be the consequences of having another Democratic Administration?

Posted on 09/26/2004 6:26:32 AM PDT by HankReardon

I was among the 19% that voted for Ross Perot in '92, my vote otherwise would have been a Bush vote. At work the day after the election a young liberal co-worker asked my what terrible things did I think was going to happen just because Bill Clinton was president. All I could say was he seemed disingenious to me, untrustworthy, a people pleaser. Now in hindsight I know the answer. The military and intelligence agencies was under assault right away with downsizing of funds and personnel. Political leanings took precedence over ability and experience at high ranking positions. "Clinton thinking" people were installed. The greatest health care system in the world quickly came under assault with an attempt nationalize, govermnent fund the system. When the Republicans gained control in Congress in '94 Clinton was so concerned about his re-election chances that millions of dollars were illegally accepted from our enemies, the Communist Chinese military. This money moved from the PLA, to the Chinese Lippo Group in the Philippines, to the Democratic National Committee then to the Clinton/Gore campaign. It would be difficult to list all of what the Chinese bought with this money. In order for American companies to transfer civilian nuclear technology to another nation the President must first declare the nation a non-miltary threat and as not a threat for proliferation. No president was confident to do this concerning Communist China until Bill Clinton, he did. He also eased trade restrictions concerning other sensitive technologies. Even with this, another large Clinton/ Gore contributor, Loral Space was fined $14 million was illegally selling sensitive technologies to our enemy. It is estimated that China's nuclear and space program advanced decades ahead than it otherwise would have. The regime in North Korea are oppressive murderers, torturers and lying communists. The Clinton administration knowing all this in order to look as if they were achieving accomplishments pretended they were honest people and would not violate a treaty. The NK's were paid for their promise to dis-continue trying to develop nuclear weapons. They are now a suspected military nuclear power. An American citizen, Paula Jones was denied Justice by a sitting American President. Perjury was committed and then he used his power to try to cover this up. Crimes were committed, witness tampering, obstruction of Justice, Abuse of Power .... Many life long Democrats dishonored themselves, their families, their constituents, their country by public acclaiming the perpetration of these crimes by a sitting American President against an American citizen was simply a part of President Clinton's personnel life. President Clinton was on a perpetual campaign while in office, he was poll driven. After re-election he acted to enhance how history would portray him, building a legacy. He vetoed Welfare reform twice, only when the polls showed the people were in favor of this did he sign the Bill. President Clinton was the corrupt CEO of the Federal Government. Just as many corporations had to readjust their numbers after the departure of their corrupt CEO's the Federal Government also did this in August of 2001. It seems while the economy was slowing and heading toward recesion during the 2000 election inaccurate numbers from the government hid this fact from the electorate. The United States and it's interests around the world were under attack all through the Clinton Administration. Many incidents demonstrate his lack of political courage in substaining military casualties. Haitti, Somalia, Bosnia, Kosivo, the lack of a sufficient miltary response against Al Qaeda. Iraq was continuously in violation of the Cease Fire Treaty of '91. The "Gorelick Wall" was put in place which forbid the CIA and the FBI from sharing information. The United Staes was attacked less than 8 months into the following, over 3,000 innocent civilians died here in America because Bill Clinton was President. There has to be so much more of the consequences from having a Democratic Administration that I am leaving out. This is a long enough read anyway. It is proper and right that now we all speculate and consider what will be the consequences of having a Democratic Administrtion beginning in January 2005. My prediction is that we lose at least one major metropolitan area. This may happen anyway becaue of the recklessness of the Clinton 8 years but would be less likely to happen with a Democrat NOT in the Oval Office. A strong prediction? For me to answer my co-worker in November of '92 with the facts we now know would have also been a strong prediction.


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Please give me your thoughts and critisms.
1 posted on 09/26/2004 6:26:33 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon

I typed this with paragraghs, I don't know what happened, sorry. Try to keep your eyes uncrossed.


2 posted on 09/26/2004 6:29:32 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon

In HTML, you need to break up paragraphs with < br > (no spaces) typed between them.

-Dan


3 posted on 09/26/2004 6:32:01 AM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Strange Things Are Afoot at the Circle K.)
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To: Flux Capacitor

yep, tried. Is that your comment? What about the content?


4 posted on 09/26/2004 6:34:42 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon
Please give me your thoughts and critisms.

Sit up straight and for Gods sake put a clean shirt on.

5 posted on 09/26/2004 6:36:58 AM PDT by bad company (What's the font kenneth?)
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To: HankReardon
I was among the 19% that voted for Ross Perot in '92, my vote otherwise would have been a Bush vote. At work the day after the election a young liberal co-worker asked my what terrible things did I think was going to happen just because Bill Clinton was president. All I could say was he seemed disingenious to me, untrustworthy, a people pleaser.
 
Now in hindsight I know the answer. The military and intelligence agencies was under assault right away with downsizing of funds and personnel. Political leanings took precedence over ability and experience at high ranking positions. "Clinton thinking" people were installed. The greatest health care system in the world quickly came under assault with an attempt nationalize, govermnent fund the system.
 
When the Republicans gained control in Congress in '94 Clinton was so concerned about his re-election chances that millions of dollars were illegally accepted from our enemies, the Communist Chinese military. This money moved from the PLA, to the Chinese Lippo Group in the Philippines, to the Democratic National Committee then to the Clinton/Gore campaign. It would be difficult to list all of what the Chinese bought with this money. In order for American companies to transfer civilian nuclear technology to another nation the President must first declare the nation a non-miltary threat and as not a threat for proliferation. No president was confident to do this concerning Communist China until Bill Clinton, he did.
 
He also eased trade restrictions concerning other sensitive technologies. Even with this, another large Clinton/ Gore contributor, Loral Space was fined $14 million was illegally selling sensitive technologies to our enemy. It is estimated that China's nuclear and space program advanced decades ahead than it otherwise would have. The regime in North Korea are oppressive murderers, torturers and lying communists. The Clinton administration knowing all this in order to look as if they were achieving accomplishments pretended they were honest people and would not violate a treaty. The NK's were paid for their promise to dis-continue trying to develop nuclear weapons. They are now a suspected military nuclear power.
 
An American citizen, Paula Jones was denied Justice by a sitting American President. Perjury was committed and then he used his power to try to cover this up. Crimes were committed, witness tampering, obstruction of Justice, Abuse of Power .... Many life long Democrats dishonored themselves, their families, their constituents, their country by public acclaiming the perpetration of these crimes by a sitting American President against an American citizen was simply a part of President Clinton's personnel life. President Clinton was on a perpetual campaign while in office, he was poll driven.
 
After re-election he acted to enhance how history would portray him, building a legacy. He vetoed Welfare reform twice, only when the polls showed the people were in favor of this did he sign the Bill. President Clinton was the corrupt CEO of the Federal Government. Just as many corporations had to readjust their numbers after the departure of their corrupt CEO's the Federal Government also did this in August of 2001.
 
It seems while the economy was slowing and heading toward recesion during the 2000 election inaccurate numbers from the government hid this fact from the electorate. The United States and it's interests around the world were under attack all through the Clinton Administration. Many incidents demonstrate his lack of political courage in substaining military casualties. Haitti, Somalia, Bosnia, Kosivo, the lack of a sufficient miltary response against Al Qaeda. Iraq was continuously in violation of the Cease Fire Treaty of '91. The "Gorelick Wall" was put in place which forbid the CIA and the FBI from sharing information.
 
The United Staes was attacked less than 8 months into the following, over 3,000 innocent civilians died here in America because Bill Clinton was President. There has to be so much more of the consequences from having a Democratic Administration that I am leaving out. This is a long enough read anyway. It is proper and right that now we all speculate and consider what will be the consequences of having a Democratic Administrtion beginning in January 2005.
 
My prediction is that we lose at least one major metropolitan area. This may happen anyway becaue of the recklessness of the Clinton 8 years but would be less likely to happen with a Democrat NOT in the Oval Office. A strong prediction? For me to answer my co-worker in November of '92 with the facts we now know would have also been a strong prediction.

6 posted on 09/26/2004 6:37:59 AM PDT by buffyt (You don't create terrorists by fighting back. You defeat the terrorists by fighting back. ~GWBush~)
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To: HankReardon
Please give me your thoughts and critisms.

You voted for Ross Perot, and you spelled 'criticisms' wrong.

;^)

5.56mmz

7 posted on 09/26/2004 6:38:18 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: HankReardon

Not to panic anyone, but a Kerry Administration would more or less be The End Of The World As We Know It.


8 posted on 09/26/2004 6:39:04 AM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: M Kehoe
OK, where did that 'z' come from?

Sheesh.

5.56mm

9 posted on 09/26/2004 6:39:13 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: HankReardon

Anyway, kicking George Bush out of office this year would ultimately mean the end of this country. And that isn't hyperbole, either. The Islamofascists based ten years of dirty work on Clinton's response to Mogadishu; he gave them no reason to think the U.S. wouldn't blink in subsequent conflicts, and indeed he ignored the terror threat for the rest of his administration.

Imagine the message it would send to the rest of the world if our current president, the man who finally decided the U.S. had had enough of this s--t and has committed us to WIPING OUT the Islamofascists, were rejected by the American people in his re-election bid. We, as a country, would never be taken seriously again. We would never again be counted on to step up and defend the free world. The Islamists would feel free to attack us with impunity, not only because, against a Democratic administration, they WOULD be free to do so, but because America will have confirmed forever that terrorism WORKS.

-Dan
10 posted on 09/26/2004 6:42:28 AM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Strange Things Are Afoot at the Circle K.)
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To: buffyt

Thank you! I'll remember to do that!


11 posted on 09/26/2004 6:42:36 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon

"My prediction is that we lose at least one major metropolitan area."

I agree.

ONE: Our reaction to 9-11, in certain respects, is too PC and too half-hearted.

TWO:The Psycho's we are dealing with are---well---psycho's. In their minds they enter History and Immortality by, say, takeing out NY or some such city. They have the will they need only the way.

It is much harder to do such a thing than most people think and such a huge crime is often 'ratted out' by some one a shade less committed then his fellows. But I believe the "stuff" is out there in the world some where and it only need be brought here for the deal to be done.

Bottom line: we have left too many of these psychos alive too long after 9-11.


12 posted on 09/26/2004 6:44:14 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: HankReardon
How's this:

I was among the 19% that voted for Ross Perot in '92, my vote otherwise would have been a Bush vote.

At work the day after the election a young liberal co-worker asked me what terrible things did I think was going to happen just because Bill Clinton was president. All I could say was he seemed disingenuous to me, untrustworthy, a people pleaser. Now in hindsight I know the answer. The military and intelligence agencies were under assault right away with downsizing of funds and personnel. Political leanings took precedence over ability and experience at high ranking positions. "Clinton thinking" people were installed. The greatest health care system in the world quickly came under assault with an attempt nationalize, government fund the system.

When the Republicans gained control in Congress in '94 Clinton was so concerned about his re-election chances that millions of dollars were illegally accepted from our enemies, the Communist Chinese military. This money moved from the PLA, to the Chinese Lippo Group in the Philippines, to the Democratic National Committee then to the Clinton/Gore campaign. It would be difficult to list all of what the Chinese bought with this money.

In order for American companies to transfer civilian nuclear technology to another nation the President must first declare the nation a non-miltary threat and as not a threat for proliferation. No president was confident to do this concerning Communist China until Bill Clinton, he did. He also eased trade restrictions concerning other sensitive technologies. Even with this, another large Clinton/ Gore contributor, Loral Space was fined $14 million was illegally selling sensitive technologies to our enemy. It is estimated that China's nuclear and space program advanced decades ahead than it otherwise would have.

The regime in North Korea are oppressive murderers, torturers and lying communists. The Clinton administration knowing all this in order to look as if they were achieving accomplishments pretended they were honest people and would not violate a treaty. The NK's were paid for their promise to discontinue trying to develop nuclear weapons. They are now a suspected military nuclear power.

An American citizen, Paula Jones was denied Justice by a sitting American President. Perjury was committed and then he used his power to try to cover this up. Crimes were committed, witness tampering, obstruction of Justice, Abuse of Power .... Many life long Democrats dishonored themselves, their families, their constituents, their country by public acclaiming the perpetration of these crimes by a sitting American President against an American citizen was simply a part of President Clinton's personnel life.

President Clinton was on a perpetual campaign while in office, he was poll driven. After re-election he acted to enhance how history would portray him, building a legacy. He vetoed Welfare reform twice, only when the polls showed the people were in favor of this did he sign the Bill.

President Clinton was the corrupt CEO of the Federal Government. Just as many corporations had to readjust their numbers after the departure of their corrupt CEO's the Federal Government also did this in August of 2001. It seems while the economy was slowing and heading toward recession during the 2000 election inaccurate numbers from the government hid this fact from the electorate.

The United States and its interests around the world were under attack all through the Clinton Administration. Many incidents demonstrate his lack of political courage in sustaining military casualties: Haiti, Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, the lack of a sufficient military response against Al Qaeda. Iraq was continuously in violation of the Cease Fire Treaty of '91. The "Gorelick Wall" was put in place which forbade the CIA and the FBI from sharing information. The United States was attacked less than 8 months into the following, over 3,000 innocent civilians died here in America because Bill Clinton was President.

There has to be so much more of the consequences from having a Democratic Administration that I am leaving out. This is a long enough read anyway.

It is proper and right that now we all speculate and consider what will be the consequences of having a Democratic Administrtion beginning in January 2005. My prediction is that we lose at least one major metropolitan area. This may happen anyway because of the recklessness of the Clinton 8 years but would be less likely to happen with a Democrat NOT in the Oval Office. A strong prediction? For me to answer my co-worker in November of '92 with the facts we now know would have also been a strong prediction.

13 posted on 09/26/2004 6:45:04 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: buffyt

ah. Took me too long. :)


14 posted on 09/26/2004 6:45:54 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: HankReardon
"What would be the consequences of having another Democratic Administration?"

Shorter Bulidings?

16 posted on 09/26/2004 6:47:13 AM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: HankReardon

Bulidings=Buildings, sorry


17 posted on 09/26/2004 6:48:06 AM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: lepton

Thank you also. I'm sorry for the improper format and the occasional mis-spellings. Point taken.

I am amazed by how many people are deciding how to vote based on how it will benefit them personally intead of how it will affect the nation as a whole. What's in it for ME!


18 posted on 09/26/2004 6:49:25 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: Constantine XIII

Let's see...Canal already given away...Mullahs in Iran about to introduce nukes and Chavez has MiGs on order... Kerry would have to scratch hard to beat his previous Dem WH occupants.


19 posted on 09/26/2004 6:51:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: TalBlack
In their minds they enter History and Immortality by, say, takeing out NY or some such city. They have the will they need only the way.

Okay, if they succeed in taking out NY, would the state still demand all of their current electoral votes?
20 posted on 09/26/2004 6:53:14 AM PDT by jrg
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To: HankReardon

I'd rather talk about what things looked like 8 years later on klintons last day in office...
# 1......Economy in, or on the brink of recession
# 2......stock market into it's 8th month of crash...
# 3......tech bubble bursting
# 4......manufacturing hemmoraging jobs since '95
# 5......alqeada in the US, training in our flight schools, learning to more effeciently kill us.
# 6......military gutted


21 posted on 09/26/2004 6:56:51 AM PDT by weezel
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To: Flux Capacitor
I prefer to use a <p>

There, with a paragraph (empty line) between (above and this) ...
Here, with just a new line, but no empty line.

22 posted on 09/26/2004 6:58:10 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: HankReardon
The fact that the consequences are extensive indicates that the power of the office is also extensive.

I think the people have conceded too much power to central authority.

23 posted on 09/26/2004 7:00:09 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: HankReardon
It's good.. you are right. To me, the Clinton administration was equivalent to putting 3-year-olds with good "language skills" into a room with loaded guns. They emasculated intelligence; they sought to prevent Americans from self-defense; they promoted discrimination among Americans through their preferential and non-ending biases for their own voting constituency; they opened our borders to hardened criminal entry. One could say, the Clinton Administration was simply unskilled, inexperienced, dreamers. This is the polite "civil" version.

The Clinton administration fostered and encouraged "incivility" across the nation; and now Dems keep whining about how "uncivil" is discourse in this time.

There is a far more accurate word choice to describe the Clinton administration and their results from policies -- but we, as a culture, aren't ready yet to see any more "hangings" like we did in Fallujah. American's haven't yet grown the spine necessary to address a very uncivil, anti-American movement within our own borders. And why? Many are yet fuzzy on the "free speech" thing.

Posit: Liberals for years clamored that "words equal actions" -- and so they foisted "hate crimes" upon America.

But yet, they can foster "murder Bush" rhetoric -- and this is not considered hate crime because it doesn't specifically assert a "race or sexual orientation" trip-wire. Whites, and males do not receive the same legal protections as any other "defined" group by the anti-American "free speechers". There is evil in our own country, and they call themselves "progressives". And they will not accept responsibility for the incivilities they've spawned all across this great nation. No. In fact, they seem quite proud of that fact. What upsets them, is that Americans have awakened to the ruse. The age of "liberalism" is drawing to a close.

24 posted on 09/26/2004 7:00:13 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Constantine XIII; HankReardon
"a Kerry Administration would more or less be The End Of The World As We Know It."

There is no "more or less" to it.
If Kerry is elected it will be the end of America as we know it, but not for the reasons listed.

We are marching inexorably down the road to socialism, and socialism is a far greater threat to our society than terrorism ever will be.

Terrorism is a tangible threat which we can meet and defeat with whatever means it takes to do so.
The push toward socialism is an intangible menace which eats at the core of our belief system and destroys the basic foundation of our society.

Although I'm not fond of the politically expedient philosophy of "moderate" Republicanism espoused by GW, he is a far cry from the socialism embraced by Kerry and the Democratic Party.

25 posted on 09/26/2004 7:04:38 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: HankReardon

It was a very good start but you didnt mention the other terrible democrap and how he started the problem. Jimmy CAATA.


26 posted on 09/26/2004 7:04:45 AM PDT by bdfromlv (leavenworth hard time)
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To: HankReardon
I too voted for Perot in '92 which, in hindsight, helped put the Clintoon into office. I will never make that mistake again.

I think the comments on this thread are dead on target. Until we defeat the islamifacists we can not afford to have a liberal, socialist, UN-hugging, apease-nic Democrat in the oval office. As Zell Miller pointed out...that is all that is left in the Democratic party.

27 posted on 09/26/2004 7:04:59 AM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: HankReardon

So, you are one of the 19%. Have you apologized?

Doesn't matter, I am not in a mood to forgive yet.

bill & hill so completely disgusted me that I probably will never forgive you.


28 posted on 09/26/2004 7:05:42 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: HankReardon
Actually, I was more concerned that I'd properly captured your intent when formatting.

As for content, I think it a fair way of expressing it. I'd be prone to be more detailed which, in light of Clintons behaviour pre-1994 election, would sound a bit nuts.

Setting the stage is GHWB's "no new taxes" pledge, that the Democrats raked him over the coals with - understanding that he didn't propose the tax increase, but instead compromised with the Dems. That takes a lot of gall to pillory your opponent for compromising with you.

Recall the things that he and the dems were doing: A year into his term, the Clinton Administration had over 300 people working in the White House without security clearances, many of whom had never even applied. Congress had special commitees which were composed of all Democrats. Democrats would often submit legislation to be voted out of committee minutes before the vote, so that Republicans could be put on the record for voting against it.

The infamous Sherburne Report includes page after page of lists of scandals the Clinton White House thought it could be held to account for - many of which were not known at the time, and some of which strongly imply direct tampering with active investigations.

Hillary selling short in pharmeceuticals, then crashing the market by some 40%. An investigation found her not responsible for stock manipulation because she crashed the entire industry, not just a few specific ones.

Clinton was LOOKING for religious folk to set up a military-style raid on before he even took office.

Setting up a shadow government where people appointed to positions were not the ones actually exercising the authority of the position.

Inserting cronies into positions where investigation progress would be fed to purley political operatives (that would lie to their diaries).

Using revelations of scandals to cover up other scandals.

...and on and on. In 1993 and 1994, Clinton didn't think he had to answer to or even acknowledge anyone outside his sphere. Things were getting dangerous fast. Later on, he learned how to hide them.

29 posted on 09/26/2004 7:09:26 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: HankReardon
January 2006 following the first year of the Kerry administration:


30 posted on 09/26/2004 7:15:07 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Ditter

Did I ask for your forgiveness? I think not? Why do you think I would desire it?


31 posted on 09/26/2004 7:16:41 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: The Great RJ

That's what I was looking for! Thank you, predictions.


32 posted on 09/26/2004 7:22:21 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: TexasCowboy
Nope, " ... down the road to ..." is a bit incorrect. Why?

We are already there ... and have been for decades ... thanks to FDR and 40 +/- years of dim-0-cratic administrations.

Just consider the establishment and growth of "entitlement programs" for starters ...

33 posted on 09/26/2004 7:23:55 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: HankReardon

I am not even sure where to begin.

The Islamofascists and their supporters would see that terrorism does work, the use of these methods to extort concessions from the civilized world would multiply many times over, and the people of Africa, Latin America, Southeast Asia, and India would be profoundly demoralized in their desperate battle against Islamic conquest.

European elitists would redouble their campaign of vilification and hatred against Americans, probably becoming more open in their calls for violence and even genocide, and certainly in their demands for an end to American sovereignty. Mob violence against individual Americans would become commonplace as the Euro-bigot media recognize that there is no longer an incentive for restraint.

A totalitarian censorship regime would be rigidly applied on American campuses, with the last vestiges of academic freedom snuffed out by authoritarian speech codes and unrestrained left-wing intimidation.

Israel would be placed under irresistable pressure to make suicidal concessions to the barbarians, inciting them to increase their demands until Israel must either refuse American aid and risk its own destruction, or make further concessions and guarantee that destruction.

The authoritarian left would repay its crucial ally, Big Media, by using the full resources of the federal government to gain control of the internet and to harrass non-conformist media out of business. The satanic power of Big Media would be triumphant in American cultural life. Hollywood idiocy and the depraved pseudo-logic of sound- bite tv culture would completely drown out and subsume rational discourse.

The barbaric state religion of the Hollywood/Madison Avenue cultural axis, the so-called New Age, would grow by leaps and bounds, eventually suppressing Judeo-Christian tradition and the scientific Enlightenment alike.

Gun confiscation would become a national obsession, with millions of brain-washed media conformists serving as an all-pervasive network of snitches and informers. Home schooling, ecological heresy, and opposition to homosexual proselytizing would similarly fall victim to the combined power of the state and the media.

The result of all this would not be the end of the world, but civil war, with the leftist authorities relying on foreign voters and foreign intervention to preserve their power.


34 posted on 09/26/2004 7:24:56 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (This message prepared with MS-CBS Word 72 software)
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To: The Great RJ

But...you failed to tell us what Kerry will do about all of these predicted disasters. After all, he claims to have "secret" plans for most everything. Perhaps Chirac and the Germans will help him. One thing is certain, he and the RATs will blame Bush for anything that does go wrong.


35 posted on 09/26/2004 7:25:18 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Constantine XIII
Not to panic anyone, but a Kerry Administration would more or less be The End Of The World As We Know It. '

And, a Kerry administration brought about by massive voter fraud would bring about some very exciting times. And considering what Kerry is, that is the only possible way that he could win. There simply aren't that many stupid people in this country.

36 posted on 09/26/2004 7:25:39 AM PDT by meyer (Proud member of the Pajamarazzi!)
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To: lepton; All
Lest we forget ... the US Senate had a duty to perform ... and they did not live up to it. [Thank you Vacant Lott!]
37 posted on 09/26/2004 7:28:25 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: HankReardon
If, in fact Kerry does manage to steal this election, He would have to put up with a GOP controlled Congress. So his first two years would be a quagmire. Nothing wrong with Congress being bottled up to do nothing.

The last two years if they managed to take control of the Congress:

The Republic will fall, at least what's left of it.

38 posted on 09/26/2004 7:29:47 AM PDT by Popman (Mozilla Rules, I.E. Drools)
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To: HankReardon

At this point in time, I would predict the beginnings of another Civil War.


39 posted on 09/26/2004 7:31:36 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: lepton

Good post. All that thanks to mr. perot.


40 posted on 09/26/2004 7:33:50 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: jamaksin
"We are already there ..."

I agree.

My point was that, unlike the European countries, we can still turn it around.
It's not too late..........but it's getting there.

41 posted on 09/26/2004 7:34:50 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Constantine XIII
a Kerry Administration would more or less be The End Of The World As We Know It.

RW II would bring series change.
I'd like to think of it as a renewal not the end.

42 posted on 09/26/2004 7:37:51 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: ASA Vet

Revolutionary War II? Would be pointless to win militarily to afterward lose at the ballot box. Besides, we need no revolution, we already have "THE" more perfect union. I think the founding fathers must have been divinely inspired. What they have bestowed upon us must always be defended.


43 posted on 09/26/2004 7:42:39 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon

I was among the 19% that voted for Ross Perot in '92, my vote otherwise would have been a Bush vote.

At work the day after the election a young liberal co-worker asked my what terrible things did I think was going to happen just because Bill Clinton was president. All I could say was he seemed disingenious to me, untrustworthy, a people pleaser. Now in hindsight I know the answer. The military and intelligence agencies was under assault right away with downsizing of funds and personnel. Political leanings took precedence over ability and experience at high ranking positions. "Clinton thinking" people were installed. The greatest health care system in the world quickly came under assault with an attempt nationalize, govermnent fund the system.

When the Republicans gained control in Congress in '94 Clinton was so concerned about his re-election chances that millions of dollars were illegally accepted from our enemies, the Communist Chinese military. This money moved from the PLA, to the Chinese Lippo Group in the Philippines, to the Democratic National Committee then to the Clinton/Gore campaign.

It would be difficult to list all of what the Chinese bought with this money. In order for American companies to transfer civilian nuclear technology to another nation the President must first declare the nation a non-miltary threat and as not a threat for proliferation. No president was confident to do this concerning Communist China until Bill Clinton, he did. He also eased trade restrictions concerning other sensitive technologies.

Even with this, another large Clinton/ Gore contributor, Loral Space was fined $14 million was illegally selling sensitive technologies to our enemy. It is estimated that China's nuclear and space program advanced decades ahead than it otherwise would have.

The regime in North Korea are oppressive murderers, torturers and lying communists. The Clinton administration knowing all this in order to look as if they were achieving accomplishments pretended they were honest people and would not violate a treaty. The NK's were paid for their promise to dis-continue trying to develop nuclear weapons. They are now a suspected military nuclear power.

An American citizen, Paula Jones was denied Justice by a sitting American President. Perjury was committed and then he used his power to try to cover this up. Crimes were committed, witness tampering, obstruction of Justice, Abuse of Power .... Many life long Democrats dishonored themselves, their families, their constituents, their country by public acclaiming the perpetration of these crimes by a sitting American President against an American citizen was simply a part of President Clinton's personnel life.

President Clinton was on a perpetual campaign while in office, he was poll driven. After re-election he acted to enhance how history would portray him, building a legacy. He vetoed Welfare reform twice, only when the polls showed the people were in favor of this did he sign the Bill.

President Clinton was the corrupt CEO of the Federal Government. Just as many corporations had to readjust their numbers after the departure of their corrupt CEO's the Federal Government also did this in August of 2001. It seems while the economy was slowing and heading toward recesion during the 2000 election inaccurate numbers from the government hid this fact from the electorate.

The United States and its interests around the world were under attack all through the Clinton Administration. Many incidents demonstrate his lack of political courage in substaining military casualties. Haitti, Somalia, Bosnia, Kosivo, the lack of a sufficient miltary response against Al Qaeda. Iraq was continuously in violation of the Cease Fire Treaty of '91. The "Gorelick Wall" was put in place which forbid the CIA and the FBI from sharing information. The United Staes was attacked less than 8 months into the following, over 3,000 innocent civilians died here in America because Bill Clinton was President.

There has to be so much more of the consequences from having a Democratic Administration that I am leaving out. This is a long enough read anyway.

It is proper and right that now we all speculate and consider what will be the consequences of having a Democratic Administrtion beginning in January 2005. My prediction is that we lose at least one major metropolitan area. This may happen anyway becaue of the recklessness of the Clinton 8 years but would be less likely to happen with a Democrat NOT in the Oval Office. A strong prediction? For me to answer my co-worker in November of '92 with the facts we now know would have also been a strong prediction.

[edited with Cicero's paragraphing, not HankReardon's. But I hope it's about what he intended.]



44 posted on 09/26/2004 7:43:41 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: M Kehoe
You voted for Ross Perot, and you spelled 'criticisms' wrong.

Thinking back to 1992, Ross Perot didn't brook any 'critisms'. He was a decent protest vote (althought the net effect was the awful Clintons), but he would have been a terrible President.

45 posted on 09/26/2004 7:43:55 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: HankReardon

later


46 posted on 09/26/2004 7:44:41 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I have to agree, a President must have political know how, connections. The best thing about President Bush is he's intelligent enough to know that he doesn't know it all, he puts the right people in positions and lets them do their thing.


47 posted on 09/26/2004 7:46:57 AM PDT by HankReardon
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To: Flux Capacitor
I agree completely with your post, but I would add that a JFK win would also embolden our other,arguably worse enemies-the EU. The always-moronic Chirac has openly stated that he expects a JFK win to enable him to pass a global tax (to wipe out "poverty") and the even more subhumanly stupid Schroeder (ignorant, as are most Europeans, of US constitutional law) stated a few weeks prior to Chirac's burblings that a JFK victory would put "back on the table" Kyoto, the ICC, who knows what else. (They really don't understand that a US president's signature means no more than mine-it's Congress that ratifies the treaties, and the last time Kyotocame up, it was rejected with 0 votes in favor just as a measure to be voted on-IOW, they didn't think Kyoto worthy to even be brought to an official vote.)

The Islamoscum want to conquer the world and inflict forced conversion, slavery,mutilation, and death and all nonmoslems. The Euroscum want a global government led by the UN, which they believe they can dominate via an alliance with the Turd World. I loathe 'em both.

48 posted on 09/26/2004 7:47:29 AM PDT by kaylar
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To: HankReardon

You haven't even touched on the eight years of Clinton's judicial appointments either.


49 posted on 09/26/2004 7:54:15 AM PDT by LowCountryJoe ("How the Far Right Has Been Left [and] Behind" - PJB)
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To: LowCountryJoe

Please, go ahead and expound on the 8 years of Clinton Judicial appointments.


50 posted on 09/26/2004 7:55:47 AM PDT by HankReardon
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