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“Buckhead” vs. Dan Rather: Internet David Slays Media Goliath
Men's News Daily ^ | 26 September 2004 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 09/26/2004 9:30:59 AM PDT by mrustow

Say good night, Dan.

Dan Rather's journalism career is surely over. When he got snookered by the forged memos peddled by longtime Bush enemy Bill Burkett, a retired Texas Army National Guard lieutenant colonel, and the fraud was exposed by a 'lousy Internet site,' instead of Rather re-investigating the story, he stonewalled, took the offensive, engaged in a "modified, limited hangout" (the September 21 New York Post) and attacked his critics. Once he admitted that something wasn't quite right about the "documents," he even tried to take credit for determining that a hoax had taken place. Rather acted less like a newsman, than a besieged politician. But then, powerful journalism figures have been acting like politicians at least since the War in Vietnam.

The question isn't if "Gunga Dan" will "be retired," but when. I believe it'll come down in six months, a decent interval that will give the CBS suits plausible deniability, so they can say that Rather's firing, er, retirement had nothing to do with Memogate aka Rathergate. After all, they'll say, the man is 72 years old.

Conservatives and Republicans alike have been celebrating Rather's downfall, and Rather certainly brought it on himself. And yet, I am not celebrating. And this story is much bigger than Rather and CBS.

To recap, on September 8, on the Wednesday edition of 60 Minutes (formerly known as 60 Minutes II), Rather displayed four memoranda (he had six, all told) that had supposedly been written on May 4, May 19, and August 1, 1972, and August 18, 1973 by Lt. George W. Bush's commanding officer in the Texas Air National Guard, Lt. Col. Jerry Killian (who died in 1984), showing that Lt. Bush had failed to get a physical the colonel had given him a direct order to get, and that Col. Killian had been politically pressured to "sugar coat" Lt. Bush's record.

"Buckhead" and Post #47

As soon as CBS put the "documents," or rather photocopies of them on its Web site, a FReeper (denizen of the conservative/Republican Web site, FreeRepublic with the username "Buckhead," almost immediately showed that the "documents" were likely forgeries. In his now legendary post 47, Buckhead argued,

"Howlin [another FReeper's username], every single one of these memos to file is in a proportionally spaced font, probably Palatino or Times New Roman.

"In 1972 people used typewriters for this sort of thing, and typewriters used monospaced fonts.

"The use of proportionally spaced fonts did not come into common use for office memos until the introduction of laser printers, word processing software, and personal computers. They were not widespread until the mid to late 90's. Before then, you needed typesetting equipment, and that wasn't used for personal memos to file. Even the Wang systems that were dominant in the mid 80's used monospaced fonts.

"I am saying these documents are forgeries, run through a copier for 15 generations to make them look old.

"This should be pursued aggressively."

That was the first blow, from which all the others followed. Several FReepers in the "Pajama Posse" researched the matter further on a series of threads that night, to be joined by a number of bloggers, among them Ratherbiased.com, PowerLineBlog.com, LittleGreenFootballs.com and Instapundit.com. (The term "blog" derives from "Web log." I believe "Pajama Posse" is a facetious reference to FReepers who do research on the Internet while in their pajamas. While some FReepers are lawyers and current or former journalists -- the late Barbara Olson was a FReeper, though not an active one -- many of its best researchers are simply bright, hard-nosed civilians with a modem and a large library.)

Actually, the typewriter fonts used in the CBS documents existed at the time, but were not commonly used, and certainly not by the Texas Air National Guard, much less by Col Killian, who did not type memos.

Only when the "blogosphere" lit up with activity, did the socialist mainstream media (SMSM) grudgingly pick up the story, and eventually kick into high gear, even as their members refused to credit the Web world. "Buckhead" was identified by the Los Angeles Times as 46-year-old, conservative activist Atlanta attorney Harry W. McDougald ("Buckhead" is a tony Atlanta neighborhood).

When I reached McDougald, he said, "Well, I'm not doing interviews, Nicholas, so I'm not going to be able to help you. I'm sorry."

Oh, that's a shame!

"Yes, but that's what I'm doing and I've done that consistently, and that's where I'm going to stick."

Polite, but firm.

The refusal by most of the SMSM, when the Memogate hoax was exposed, to credit McDougald/Buckhead and his FReeper compatriots is typical of the vanity and arrogance of that media subculture, whose partisans still believe that they have a monopoly on describing social reality and prescribing political action, and that civilians have merely to accept what they dish out, and follow their marching orders. (Politically correct "journalistic ethics authority" Jim Romenesko of the Poynter Institute, also refused to discuss Memogate until everyone and his Aunt Ida already had, which led Washington Dispatch editor C.K. Rairden to skewer Romenesko, along with CBS. Romenesko's views are pretty much representative of the dominant talking points in university journalism programs.)

Eventually, it came out that some of CBS' own document experts had had grave misgivings about the authenticity of the documents; people whom Rather claimed had vouchsafed the documents' authenticity had never seen them, but only had their contents read to them over the telephone, or only seen photocopies; and that Rather had ignored the insistence of Col. Killian's wife and son, that the memos could not have been from him. And even after the hoax was exposed, Rather was caught presenting a former typewriter repairman as a document expert.

Finally, on September 20, Rather announced,

"The failure of CBS News to do just that, to properly, fully, scrutinize the documents and their source, led to our airing the documents when we should not have done so. It was a mistake. CBS News deeply regrets it. Also I want to say personally and directly, I'm sorry."

CBS News chief Andrew Heyward, who is also toast, said, "We should not have used them. That was a mistake, which we deeply regret."

CBS has appointed Rather-crony Louis Boccardi, the former head of the Associated Press (which gave us "Boosgate"), and former U.S. Attorney General and Pennsylvania Gov. Dick Thornburgh, a liberal Republican, to find out how the network was conned, and by whom.

Rather has yet to admit that the "documents" were forgeries, or even that they were the basis of his story. Burkett still denies that he is the forger, but has admitted that he lied when he gave CBS the name of a former Texas Air National guardsman, "George Conn," as his source. Conn reportedly responded to a USA Today e-mail by writing, "Know absolutely nothing about the Killian memos." Burkett then went to Plan B, claiming that his source was a "Lucy Ramirez," though no one has been able to turn up the mysterious "Lucy."

Burkett is also surely misrepresenting the situation, when he maintains that CBS came to him. Are CBS producers telepathic? Burkett would have to have let CBS News know, through an intermediary, that he had something it would very much want to see. As the USA Today article reported, he had sought to peddle the same story to the newspaper in February, but without the forged documents. In any event, Burkett may be liable for criminal charges, since trafficking in forged documents -- much less forged documents purporting to come from an officer of the federal government -- was still a crime, last I noticed.

While many reporters and observers have emphasized that Burkett has a history of mental illness (his inability to receive medical benefits for his psychological treatment is supposedly at the heart of his beef with then-Gov. Bush), as University of Virginia political scientist Larry Sabato noted on Fox News Channel's Special Edition with Brit Hume on September 22, "This was a complicated scam." Sabato was impressed "not [with] the quality of the forgery, but the information in the documents." The forger clearly knew what sort of language was required.

On Tuesday, the Republican watchdog, the Media Research Center, noted that Rather had yet to apologize to those who had exposed him, whom he had impugned as rich, right-wing ideologues. Such arrogance towards the Internet (not to mention towards Republicans) remains pervasive in the media. Even as the story unfolded, such grandees as Ted Koppel of ABC's Nightline and Newsweek's Michael Isikoff, refused to credit Free Republic with breaking the story. On the September 10 Nightline, with the hoax already exposed, Koppell would only mention an anonymous "Web site." Isikoff, appearing on Fox' The O'Reilly Factor on September 20, emphasized the wonderful work the SMSM was doing.

ABC's New York affiliate, WABC Eyewitness News, was even worse. At 12:18 a.m. on the morning of September 11, on a late version of the 11 O'Clock News, over 48 hours after the story had started unraveling, anchor Bill Ritter read aloud, "The President was saying nothing about controversial documents" about his National Guard service.

In fact, the President was then indeed saying nothing about the "controversial documents" in question. And so, the Eyewitness News writer who provided the "content" Ritter delivered, wasn't guilty of "lying" as such, but was guilty as hell of dishonesty, for misrepresenting the story to viewers. The "controversial documents" Ritter referred to weren't documents at all, but rather forgeries.

And yet Ritter was still peddling the discredited, anti-Bush story. (In spite of the WABC Marketing Department's strategy of presenting him as a regular guy, Ritter is politically correct with a vengeance.)

(I'll let you in on a little secret: The Republican Mainstream Media (RMSM) is just as arrogant towards the Internet, and has for years been scooped on stories by Internet writers, and then either retold the stories without giving credit to the real reporters, or ignored the stories altogether. So, the notion that the MSM is uniformly socialist -- or as the dainty euphemism would have it, "liberal" -- while Republican writers are somehow outside of the Establishment, is self-serving hype.)

Rather's defenders are not limited to WABC's Eyewitness News. According to reporter Don Kaplan in the September 21 New York Post, Rather's supporters at CBS are circling the wagons -- well, sort of, anonymously.

"Within CBS News, executives, producers, and on-air talent closed ranks yesterday and voiced their support for Rather.

"'There's a sense of people rallying behind Dan Rather,' another CBS News source said on condition of anonymity. 'He's not on a mission to bring down the Bush administration.'"

And in the New York Daily News, TV critic David Bianculli wrote on September 21, that he considered Rather "a reliable, old-fashioned seeker of truth," who was not at all guilty of bashing conservatives.

"Yesterday, of course, he and CBS fessed up to using documents they shouldn't have...."

"Rather ought to be judged less for the use of questionable documents than for how he and CBS corrected the process that let them slip through, and for what he says and does next."

"Bianculli doesn't want Rather punished for foisting a hoax on the public, or even for stonewalling, after he was caught out. Heck, Bianculli apparently doesn't think anyone should be punished. Rather merely needs to "correct the process." The process made him do it! Bianculli is so pc, that he refused to even use the "f" word, as in "forgery."

A few years ago, when the NAACP engineered its successful pc hoax, claiming that blacks were invisible on prime-time TV, Bianculli wrote a column in which he decried political correctness, while assuring readers that his criticism did not apply to the NAACP.

Hearst's Helen Thomas called Rather "a magnificent reporter." Of course for Thomas, any story that makes Republicans look bad is "magnificent," the truth be damned. Thomas somehow rationalized things, so that Pres. Bush and not Rather, was the heavy in the Memogate/Rathergate saga.

"Truth is our Holy Grail. I'm sure everybody is feeling bad about it....To me, the real issue is why doesn't the President tell us the truth? Why doesn't he put out all the documents? Because he can't, because there are too many gaps."

Thomas' every column can be reduced to five words: "Bush sucks! Vote for Kerry!"

And Vanity Fair writer Dominick Dunne said, "I love Dan Rather. I'm so sad for him. I feel sorry for him. I think someone set him up."

Yeah. Must have been that evil Karl Rove. Or was it Roger Stone? Or Scooter Libby? Or my four-year-old?

I suppose Rather can take comfort in the fact that at least Bianculli, Thomas, and Dunne didn't express their support anonymously. Cold comfort.

Meanwhile, the truest barometer of Rather's plight, may be how CBS' David Letterman opened his Friday night monologue, 16 days after the onset of Memogate/Rathergate:

"CBS cannot vouch for the authenticity of these jokes."

Dan Rather was not always a punch line. My earliest memory of a reporter in action, was of Rather heroically doing his "standup" from the floor of the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago, while being shoved around by goons. More recently, while fighting back tears, Rather gave Pres. Ronald Reagan a poignant sendoff, after the President's funeral. Unfortunately, Rather fell prey to hubris, and since September 8, we have been watching his own extended funeral.

Nicholas Stix


New York-based freelancer Nicholas Stix has written for Toogood Reports, Middle American News, the New York Post, Daily News, American Enterprise, Insight, Chronicles, Newsday and many other publications. His recent work is collected at www.geocities.com/nstix and http://www.thecriticalcritic.blogspot.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Free Republic; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: billburkett; buckhead; cbs; danrather; dickthornburgh; georgeconn; louisboccardi; lucyramirez; mediabias; mediafraud; memogate; pajamaposse; rathergate; turass
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1 posted on 09/26/2004 9:31:00 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: mrustow

Dan Rather wasnt snookered, his arrogance made him think he could get away with it.


2 posted on 09/26/2004 9:37:16 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: mrustow
In his now legendary post 47, Buckhead argued,

Too bad FR can't retire Post Numbers like the Pros do with uniforms.

3 posted on 09/26/2004 9:38:04 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Buckhead
“Buckhead” vs. Dan Rather: Internet David Slays Media Goliath

I love you.

4 posted on 09/26/2004 9:38:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: mrustow

Go Nick Stix!!!


5 posted on 09/26/2004 9:43:20 AM PDT by Helms (nu-ance : [French, from Old French, from nuer, to shade, cloud, from nue, cloud, from Vulgar Latin ])
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To: mrustow

Pretty good summary I have to say.


6 posted on 09/26/2004 9:47:16 AM PDT by tdadams ('Unfit for Command' is full of lies... it quotes John Kerry)
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To: mrustow

Buckhead...you are the GREATEST


7 posted on 09/26/2004 9:49:07 AM PDT by joyce11111
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To: mrustow

8 posted on 09/26/2004 9:49:38 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: mrustow
actually, i do NOT believe than dan blather & cBS were "fooled" or anything of the sort.

RATHER, i believe that cBS & HANOI-John's campaign staff CONSPIRED to try & destroy a sitting POTUS with INTENTIONAL LIES & DISTORTIONS.

for that reason, not only dan blather, but every other person involved, clear up to and including the CEO/COO of cBS MUST BE FIRED in a VERY public way, for ANY of the major networks to "regain their lost credability".

free dixie,sw

9 posted on 09/26/2004 9:56:18 AM PDT by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. damnyankee is a LEARNED prejudice.)
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To: mrustow

Not a satisfactory article. 1) Let's stop maligning Gunga Din; 2)what, pray, is the "Republican" media as differentiated from "Conservative" media? Hegel & McCain & Lugar? 3)we need a bit of expansion on Bush's reaction to documents he'd have absolutely NO way of disproving (they were personal, never part of HIS file, and they were opinions--even if they WEREN'T forgeries); 4)absolutely no hint of CBS "expert-shopping"; 5) it isn't as though CBS were ignorant of Burkett's attempts to smear Bush with "documents;" 6) no, the font used in the forgeries was NOT available in 1973 (never mind 72) even on the horrendously expensive IBM Selectric Composer which used Times Roman, not Times NEW Roman; and in ANY case would not have been available to TANG; 7) no mention of the use of an "unimpeachable source," one of the most damning of Rather's defenses. There are probably more . . .


10 posted on 09/26/2004 9:58:54 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: mrustow

Look what I found at msnbc.com

Which campaign is using the Internet better? (Joe Trippi)

Hardball “The Horserace” is tonight, and I am going to be talking with Chris about who is using the Net and the Blogosphere better— Kerry or Bush?

What’s pretty clear to me is that activists and the grassroots of both parties understand the power they have gained through the Internet far better then either campaign has come to understand that power. But on the whole I give the grassroots/netroots advantage to Democrats and the Kerry campaign. There simply is much more energy and creativity going on at the grassroots level on the Net and Blogs on the side of Democrats.

Moveon.org (a grassroots site that supports Kerry) and Freerepublic.com (a site that is geared towards support of Bush) are two examples of Internet grassroots flexing power in this election cycle. Moveon.org has raised millions of dollars, ran ads, and has gotten its netroots base to hold coffees and organizational activities off-line and into communities across the country. Posters on Freerepublic.com’s bulletin board made their mark when they successfully launched a challenge to CBS New’s 60 Minutes report questioning President Bush’s National Guard duty.

The point here is that there is activity at the grassroots level on both sides— but activity spurred by Moveon.org and blogs that lean towards Kerry and the Democrats have waged a much more multi-dimensional campaign than the Freerepublic.com and other like minded sites and blogs on the Right.

The campaigns themselves have clearly learned that the Internet can be used to raise money but frankly both campaigns have failed to fully grasp the power of the Netroots beyond money. When it comes to the two campaign’s blogs Kerry wins hands down. The Bush camp seems to distain true input from its netroots supporters.

But when it comes to understanding the power of the 'Net and how it is changing everything (including influencing stories that make it into the mainstream press) I have to give the edge to the Bush campaign. They seem to be monitoring everything online and understand that there is a "canary in the coalmine" quality to the 'Net— a kind of early warning system that that lets you smell trouble brewing and ready your response to it before that trouble boils over into the mainstream press.

Had the Kerry campaign been paying attention they would have noticed that the Swift Boat attacks were being waged on the Net long before they made it on to the pages of our newspapers or out of the mouths of network anchors. They could have heeded those warning signs and responded a lot quicker then they did. Had CBS truly understood the changing power of individuals to use their expertise or knowledge of the Net to challenge a mainstream media story— they too would have pulled back and faced the fact that they had gotten it wrong – long before they did.

Back in October of 2003, I had this eerie feeling that from a strategic standpoint the Dean campaign was analogous to the Japanese at Pearl Harbor– we had awakened the sleeping giant Republicans to a new medium that they could use to press their agenda. While Democrats were doing everything they could to kill the netroots-driven Dean campaign, and were in denial that the Internet was changing everything.

Thankfully the netroots didn’t listen to any of it. Today it’s the grassroots on the Net that has kept the Kerry campaign competitive in terms of resources and activity.

I hope you’ll tune in to 'The Horserace' tonight at 7 p.m. ET to watch the discussion and catch up on the latest developments in the race for the Presidency. And let me know what you think!

Thanks
Joe

E-mail: JTrippi@MSNBC.com

• September 24, 2004 | 3:16 p.m


11 posted on 09/26/2004 10:01:31 AM PDT by joyce11111
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To: Semper Paratus

Why not? Free Republic could reconfigure a jump from 46 to 48, couldn't it? Can't imagine that anyone would object.


12 posted on 09/26/2004 10:01:42 AM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: mrustow; Texasforever; Howlin
.......a FReeper (denizen of the conservative/Republican Web site, FreeRepublic with the username "Buckhead," almost immediately showed that the "documents" were likely forgeries. In his now legendary post 47, Buckhead argued,..............

Buckhead was the first Freeper to give indesputable technical evidence that the documents were forgeries in Post 47.

However, looking over the thread, it was Texasforever that first noticed that the memos did not look quite right and stated "I don't believe these are legit documents" :

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To: Howlin

Did you notice that NO ONE was CC'd on those memos?

27 posted on 09/08/2004 8:29:02 PM PDT by Texasforever

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To: Texasforever

And what does that mean?

32 posted on 09/08/2004 8:37:12 PM PDT by Howlin

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To: Howlin

It means he , if he actually wrote them, didn't see fit to send the memos to anyone else. So why write them in the first place?

38 posted on 09/08/2004 8:41:36 PM PDT by Texasforever

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To: Texasforever

I think they were his private papers?

44 posted on 09/08/2004 8:53:07 PM PDT by Howlin

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To: Howlin

"I think they were his private papers?"

So why write them? If he was REALLY trying to CYA then he would have sent his concerns up the chain otherwise he would be in deep Sh%T if he had to explain later why he didn't let someone else know about a supposed violation of a direct order. Nope I don't believe these are legit documents since CBS will not say who they got them from so the originals can be examined.

46 posted on 09/08/2004 8:58:44 PM PDT by Texasforever

13 posted on 09/26/2004 10:06:35 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius

For the record, here is the compilation post I did regarding exactly how this happened:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1220090/posts?page=2#2

As you can all see, many, many Freepers were involved from the second Dan Rather held up those papers.


14 posted on 09/26/2004 10:12:58 AM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Howlin

Hiya, Howlin.

Everything going OK for ya so far now that you're famous?

**drooling with envy**


15 posted on 09/26/2004 10:16:46 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: mrustow

What the media does not realize is that FR has been breaking stories for years, usually just getting our lines borrowed for their stories and never giving FR credit. When I was doing the reporting on Jarbidge, Klamath Falls many of my words were put in their stories word for word. And I say...Whatever it takes!

Eagles up!


16 posted on 09/26/2004 10:23:43 AM PDT by AuntB ("Go count your blessings and when you're done come complain to me." MY Grandma!!)
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To: AuntB

I don't doubt it. Many a time, I have seen something discussed in a FReeper post that became the heart of a "professional journalist's" article a week or so later. Many scribes lurk here.


17 posted on 09/26/2004 10:32:50 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: sgtbono2002
Dan Rather wasnt snookered, his arrogance made him think he could get away with it.

I think he was "snookered," but only because he wanted to be, like with a seduction.

18 posted on 09/26/2004 10:48:42 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Semper Paratus
In his now legendary post 47, Buckhead argued,

Too bad FR can't retire Post Numbers like the Pros do with uniforms.

That's a nice thought.

19 posted on 09/26/2004 10:49:39 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow

save


20 posted on 09/26/2004 10:49:42 AM PDT by UB355
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To: tdadams
Pretty good summary I have to say.

I thought so, too, though you can't please everyone (#10).

21 posted on 09/26/2004 10:51:01 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: stand watie

While I do not believe that Rather conspired with the DNC, it is certainly possible that his producer, Mary Mapes, did.


22 posted on 09/26/2004 10:52:40 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow

Forums like FR and certain bloggers are the reason the left is so keen for the UN to take control of the internet away from the US. The UN claims it's necessary to control the flow of information...to protect the children, of course.


23 posted on 09/26/2004 10:52:45 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Mach9

I found the article more than satisfactory, and your criticisms juvenile and false, but hey, I posted an e-mail link to the man. Tell him what you think. He's been known to respond to his hate mail.


24 posted on 09/26/2004 10:54:44 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: cake_crumb
Forums like FR and certain bloggers are the reason the left is so keen for the UN to take control of the internet away from the US. The UN claims it's necessary to control the flow of information...to protect the children, of course.

I believe it. The members of the Dictators' Fraternity do not cotton to criticism.

25 posted on 09/26/2004 11:01:30 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Peacerose; Shermy; Timesink; seamole; Fred25; Free ThinkerNY; ouroboros; ChaseR; A.J.Armitage; ...

Rathergate Zing!


26 posted on 09/26/2004 11:10:46 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: princess leah; Johnny Gage; Nick Danger; Asmodeus; Belial; HAL9000; ~EagleNebula~; Azzurri; ...

Incoming!


27 posted on 09/26/2004 11:11:44 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: healey22; HiTech RedNeck; Patriot76; blam; L.N. Smithee; fella; MissAmericanPie; glc1173@aol.com; ..

Heads up!


28 posted on 09/26/2004 11:12:54 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow
Today at church we studied Ecclesiastes 9. Starting with verse 14 and going thru verse 17. I am quoting the New King James Version of Bible.

There was a little city with few men in it: and a great king came against it, besieged it, and built great snares around it.
Now there was found in it a poor wise man, and he by his wisdom delivered the city. Yet no one remembered that same poor man.
The I said "Wisdom is better than strength.
Nevertheless the poor man's wisdom is despised and his words are not heard.
Words of the wise, spoken quietly, shoud be heard
Rather than the shout of a ruler of fools.

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Rather is the king of the fools in my opinion, and Buckhead is the wise man. Greater is wisdom that the shouts of the ruler of fools. Amen...

29 posted on 09/26/2004 11:13:40 AM PDT by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: Doctor Raoul; Lurker; Lexington Green; mickie; van helsing; AmericanVictory; Octar; holden; ...

Rathergate Zing!


30 posted on 09/26/2004 11:14:45 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Helms; mrustow

How does that Nicky Stixx manage to do it week after week? His string is longer than Joe Dimaggio's.


31 posted on 09/26/2004 11:14:56 AM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: jla; mrustow
RATHERGATE IS ANOTHER WATERGATE: The Nexus
So where are the grand juries, special prosecutors + indictments, anyway? (Where are the calls for them?)
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32 posted on 09/26/2004 11:18:11 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Buckhead
Buckhead BTTT on post 29.

Thanks Buck (you will be forgotten in time, but your wisdom not).

33 posted on 09/26/2004 11:19:15 AM PDT by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: Mark17; Travis McGee; Phil V.; bayourod; Angelwood; The Sword; The_Republican; YaYa123; ...

Heads up!


34 posted on 09/26/2004 11:26:11 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: stand watie

Absolutely Right!


35 posted on 09/26/2004 11:26:32 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Mach9

I think the more would have to include Martha Mapes, who had been pursuing this story for 5 years, who also broke the "Abu Ghraib" story, and who almost went to jail in re the Byrd dragging case (if it weren't for her professionalism and objectivity, there's no telling what nonsense she might report)


36 posted on 09/26/2004 11:29:19 AM PDT by bt_dooftlook ((Kerry/Edwards - We'll open up a carafe of whoopass on terrorists!))
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To: TomMix; innocentbystander; Hodar; DonQ; TLBSHOW; NorthernRight; sandmanbr; NoClones; sneakypete; ...

Incoming!


37 posted on 09/26/2004 11:30:11 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: LowOiL
Rather is the king of the fools in my opinion, and Buckhead is the wise man. Greater is wisdom that the shouts of the ruler of fools. Amen...

That's the media as a whole, I'd say. Very appropriate passage.

38 posted on 09/26/2004 11:37:59 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow; Buckhead; Happy2BMe
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1224680/posts?page=155#155

To: MeekOneGOP; Slip18; Argh; xsmommy; Gabz; VRWCmember
BALLAD OF DAN RATHER

(Think "Beverly Hillbillies" theme song)

Come and listen to my story 'bout a man named Dan,
The documents were fake and he didn't give a dam*;
He put 'em on the air, an' he thought he'd done the job,
But up from the web come a howlin' mob.

Blogs, that is.
Web logs.
Checkin' facts.

Well, the first thing you know ol' Dan's a-runnin' fast;
Made a false report an' it bit him in the a$$;
He said 'dog-gonnit, I done thought I'd get away!'
But it turned out to be his a-reckonin' day.

Busted, that is.
Red-faced.
Mud in the eye.

Well, now it's time to say goodbye to Dan and all his men;
And they would like to shoot you folks for turnin' them in;
You're all invited back next week to watch the Evening News,
And see which correspondent's picked to fill Dan's empty shoes.

Y'all come back, now, hear?

155 posted on 09/23/2004 4:15:51 PM CDT by TheGrimReaper



39 posted on 09/26/2004 11:40:46 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP; TheGrimReaper

I love 'em, especially the ballad.


40 posted on 09/26/2004 11:47:07 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: mrustow
I love the ballad, too. :^D

41 posted on 09/26/2004 11:54:31 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: LowOiL

Buckhead should change his user name or tagline to "post 47".


42 posted on 09/26/2004 11:58:49 AM PDT by boop (Testing the tagline feature!)
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To: mrustow
if dan blather was NOT conspiring with the DNC & HANOI-John's staff, then what do you believe he was he talking about on MULTIPLIE converations/occasions to them?????

free dixie,sw

43 posted on 09/26/2004 12:02:27 PM PDT by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. damnyankee is a LEARNED prejudice.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
THANK YOU!

free dixie,sw

44 posted on 09/26/2004 12:02:59 PM PDT by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. damnyankee is a LEARNED prejudice.)
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To: mrustow

With all due respect and with no malisciousness, I think you are being snookered by Dan Rather.

Rather had this information for months , no way a man with his experience could not have known it was phony. IMO

Rather is complicit in a plot to destroy the President, he is no longer reporting news he is involved in Partisan politics. Which is fine for as long as you admit it, but when you report news as a neautral . and get paid by a news organisation to slant the news it isnt ethical.


45 posted on 09/26/2004 12:34:51 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: Gracey

Ping for later


46 posted on 09/26/2004 12:42:38 PM PDT by Gracey (NOT Fonda Kerry and his 9.10 Democrat Party mentality)
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To: Howlin
...many, many Freepers were involved from the second Dan Rather held up those papers.

FReeping at its best.

47 posted on 09/26/2004 12:45:34 PM PDT by Otta B Sleepin ("Iraq isn't Vietnam, it's Guadalcanal." Powl Smith)
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To: mrustow

Hardly hate. But when one decides to write, one ought not only to have but to USE pertinent facts.


48 posted on 09/26/2004 1:09:33 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: bt_dooftlook

Indeed.


49 posted on 09/26/2004 1:10:56 PM PDT by Mach9 (.)
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To: mrustow
Media Goliath

Dan Rather is just a moron.
A technologically-challenged moron.

'Nuff said!
50 posted on 09/26/2004 1:11:50 PM PDT by VOA
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