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Kerry owns assault rifle - Despite pushing for bans against public possession
2004 WorldNetDaily.com ^ | September 26, 2004 | WND

Posted on 09/26/2004 6:50:07 PM PDT by bear11

Despite pushing for bans against so-called assault weapons, Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry now admits he owns a "Communist Chinese assault rifle.''

''My favorite gun is the M-16 that saved my life and that of my crew in Vietnam,'' Kerry told Outdoor Life magazine for its October issue. ''I don't own one of those now, but one of my reminders of my service is a Communist Chinese assault rifle.''

When asked by the New York Times for more information about the weapon, Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan said Kerry was a registered gun owner in Massachusetts.

Meehan said Thursday he was unable to ask the senator about the rifle because of Kerry's hoarse voice, and the Times reports he did not respond to further inquiries.

Kerry is a hunter who voiced support for the recently expired assault-weapons ban, and often tells citizens he's never met anyone who wanted to use an AK-47 to shoot a deer.

Andrew Arulanandam, a spokesman for the National Rifle Association, told the Times the comment in Outdoor Life made Kerry's support of the ban disingenuous.

''It's OK for John Kerry to own these kinds of firearms, but it's not OK for John Q. Public?'' Arulanandam said, adding Kerry could be subject to court-martial if the gun were brought home from the war as a souvenir. ''He certainly owes people an explanation as to why there's a double standard.''


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: assaultrifle; bang; banglist; flipflop; johnkerry; kerry; loser; weaponsban
There are many people who should never own a firearm. John Kerry doesn't know the difference between a firing pin and a bowling pin.

Let's see him explain this one.

1 posted on 09/26/2004 6:50:08 PM PDT by bear11
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To: bear11

I smell a hypocrite from John Kerry. This guy just contradicts himself.


2 posted on 09/26/2004 6:51:46 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: bear11

So is it an SKS or an illegal AK-47 that "common" people would go to jail for?


3 posted on 09/26/2004 6:53:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: bear11; Lijahsbubbe; dighton; aculeus; Constitution Day
Meehan said Thursday he was unable to ask the senator about the rifle because of Kerry's hoarse voice...

Heheh

4 posted on 09/26/2004 6:54:13 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: bear11

now now ...of course kerry knows the dif between a firing pin and a bowling pin.
Its a little known fact that kerry was in vietnam...no no realy its true...he doesnt talk about it much though /sarcasm


do as i say not as i do?


5 posted on 09/26/2004 6:55:30 PM PDT by Casaubon (jus)
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To: bear11

Gun bans are for the little people.


6 posted on 09/26/2004 6:55:50 PM PDT by DaBroasta (Stop the hate--vote Republican)
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To: bear11
Meehan said Thursday he was unable to ask the senator about the rifle because of Kerry's hoarse voice...

Poor smuck - all that good money from wifey and this is the best flack he can hire? Gee, Meehan. Have your studmuffin write his answer down... or maybe his wrist is too limp to use a pencil?

A_R

7 posted on 09/26/2004 6:55:57 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Thinkin' Gal

He couldn't write the answer?


8 posted on 09/26/2004 6:56:02 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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To: bear11
Meehan said Thursday he was unable to ask the senator about the rifle because of Kerry's hoarse voice

And then the dog ate the homework.

Ya know, he could have just had Kerry stomp his hoof once for yes, twice for no...

9 posted on 09/26/2004 6:56:05 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: bear11

''I don't own one of those now, but one of my reminders of my service is a Communist Chinese assault rifle.''


This guy is just a liar. I don't own a gun, I'll never own a gun, I'm very pro-second amendment, but I don't know much about guns. But I DO know this, no one would describe a rifle as a "communist chinese" rifle. Who makes the AK-47s? The Russians, no? Have you ever heard it describes as a "Communist Russian Ak-47"? Don't the Israelis make the Uzi? Have you ever heard it describes as "the Zionist Israeli Uzi".

Maybe he's on drugs.


10 posted on 09/26/2004 6:57:07 PM PDT by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: bear11

Hoarse voice, horse-face and a horse's a$$.


11 posted on 09/26/2004 6:57:33 PM PDT by Old Professer (The Truth always gets lost in the Noise.)
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To: DaBroasta
Gun bans are for the little people.

Exactly how it will be percieved in the swing states. This destroys Kerry.

12 posted on 09/26/2004 6:57:40 PM PDT by motexva
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To: bear11
''My favorite gun is the M-16 that saved my life and that of my crew in Vietnam,'' Kerry told Outdoor Life magazine...

Kerry was in Vietnam?

13 posted on 09/26/2004 6:58:03 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: bear11

i'm confused ... is this a flip or a flop?


14 posted on 09/26/2004 6:58:23 PM PDT by MissAntithesis (reminding myself and others to imagine, for just a minute, that Kerry is our CIC.)
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To: jocon307

Kerry own's one of everything. He's just a regular Joe like you and I (not).

Actually - a commie assault rifle is cheap cr@p.

How about that $6,000 bicycle he "did not" wreck on ?


15 posted on 09/26/2004 6:59:07 PM PDT by Gary - Peters (Kerry Insecure to relinquish Congressional Job.)
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To: motexva
If a politician does not have the common sense to know that a law abiding citizen with a gun is not a threat, then that politician does not have the common sense to vote on how my tax money is to be spent.
16 posted on 09/26/2004 6:59:49 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: DaBroasta

This little people hopes they never come to inspect our basement...no, no, no, precious. They is bad mens and we needs to have superior firepower, precious.


17 posted on 09/26/2004 7:00:53 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (`)
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To: Billthedrill
''My favorite gun is the M-16 that saved my life and that of my crew in Vietnam,'' Kerry told Outdoor Life magazine... This is my rifle This is my gun (point to crotch) One is for killin' The other's for fun

18 posted on 09/26/2004 7:01:14 PM PDT by bear11 ("In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: Billthedrill

He claims he was, but that was either just before or just after he was in Cambodia on Christmas.


19 posted on 09/26/2004 7:01:54 PM PDT by irishtenor (If stupidity were painful, all the democrats would be in the hospital...)
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To: bear11

Well, Kerry could have been lying to score points with his audience of the moment. This is the most likely explanation.

Or, he could have whatever license it takes in MA to own an "assault rifle" and keeps it in a safe somewhere, and renews the lic whenever it expires (you need to take a course of some sort, right?). This is very unKerrylike. Someone should ask him what type of licence he has and in what city it was issued.

He could have had a real Chinese Full-Auto AK47 with bayonet and so on, demilled and is a wallhanger souvenir to remind people that he served. This is Kerrylike, especially if he forgets to tell people it is demilled and he bought it at Cabelas on sale. "There I was, standing in the steaming jungle, when up comes this Cong general yelling at the top of his lungs. I unslung my Huey and fired a single shot over his head, and he surrendered, handing me the rifle you see now on the wall."


20 posted on 09/26/2004 7:04:09 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Blood of Tyrants
So is it an SKS or an illegal AK-47 that "common" people would go to jail for?

Describing it as a Communist Chinese assault rifle certainly implies that he brought a full-auto AK-47 back from Vietnam as a war souvenir. I have to wonder what Navy regs at the time said in regard to such items.

21 posted on 09/26/2004 7:05:59 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob

Maybe it came back with him from Paris as a token of Madam Bihn's appreciation.


22 posted on 09/26/2004 7:07:41 PM PDT by bear11 ("In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: doug from upland; Lijahsbubbe
He couldn't write the answer?

Neigh!

23 posted on 09/26/2004 7:08:21 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: bear11

Reg in Mass! Isn't he also supposed to have a Fed'l permit if that thing is fully auto?


24 posted on 09/26/2004 7:11:04 PM PDT by Henchman (Kerry lied, good men died!)
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To: DBrow

Hehehe. He's got it hanging right next to the 18 point buck he got on Boston Common from 700 yards.


25 posted on 09/26/2004 7:13:46 PM PDT by ninonitti
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Iraqis can have fully automatic AK-47's.

But we can't.

Go figure.


26 posted on 09/26/2004 7:15:09 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Hey! They've got lettuce today.)
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To: bear11

Kerry is like all liberals. If it's his gun, he will just give it to his body guard. Only peons can't own these guns. Rich patricians own what they want. Case closed.


27 posted on 09/26/2004 7:15:38 PM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: jocon307
Just a trivial point: at the time, it was common practice to refer to Viet Cong weapons as "ChiComm," as not many people in the West knew who Simonov or Kalashnikov were or cared much about the model designations. If he picked one up in Viet Nam, and if he had it properly demilled and got the paperwork to bring it home as a trophy, and if he has had it hanging on the wall for the last 35 years, then he might indeed think of it as a "ChiComm" weapon.
28 posted on 09/26/2004 7:18:12 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Right. Would some of our fellow posters who served in combat in Vietnam while Kerry was there please let us know if he'd be more likely to have captured a semi-auto SKS (legal without Federal registration and permitting) or an AK with full automatic capability (legal only with Federal registration and permitting and possibly illegal to bring home). Thank you in advance for sharing your knowledge.
29 posted on 09/26/2004 7:23:46 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Bob

I'm wondering if a little visit by the ATF isn't in order here.


30 posted on 09/26/2004 7:26:11 PM PDT by GoLightly (If it doesn't kill ya, it makes ya stronger.)
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To: jocon307
The AK-47 (Automat Kalashnikov 1947) is only the first of a long line of AKs. It had a machined receiver, while many of the later versions of the same weapon had and have a stamped receiver. The later versions were very easy to manuufacture and the Chinese were authorized to manufacture them. The Chinese were one of the main weapons suppliers to the North Vietnamese. Hence, it's quite likely that any NVA AK which Kerry captured and brought home was made by the Chinese. To further muddy the waters, the Chinese also manufactured a large number of SKS semi-auto rifles.
31 posted on 09/26/2004 7:31:42 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: bear11

Folks:
I apologize for duplicating an existing thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227501/posts

There are great comments there that are worth viewing.


32 posted on 09/26/2004 7:36:34 PM PDT by bear11 ("In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: bear11

He's obviously got some kind of gun, because he keeps shooting himself in the foot!


33 posted on 09/26/2004 7:44:54 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: Billthedrill

This is my rifle...this is my gun... one's for fightin...the other's for fun...

(Sorry, I know that this is a Kerry thread and the mental image is liable to blow a few mental circuit breakers.)


34 posted on 09/26/2004 7:46:55 PM PDT by Ronin (When the fox gnaws....SMILE!)
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To: bear11

He's lying about the rifle. How can you tell? You can see his lips moving.

Kerry lies about everything. He lied about the rifle, and he lied when he was asked "what was the biggest deer he ever got."

When he was asked that question, Kerry said (quote not exact), "Oh, I don't know about 8 points, something like that, nothing too big. But I saw one one time, something like 16 points, but I failed to shoot at the appropriate time,"

C'mon hunters. Have at it. Could ANY deer hunter possibly not know EXACTLY how many points his buck had? It's not even like Kerry has shot so many that this particular one gets blurred in his memory. Kerry admitted that he hasn't deer hunted much. But when asked what his biggest buck was, he claims he's not sure how many points, but it was something like 8. Get outta here.

Also, he tells a classic, "I saw a big deer story." Yeah, so what. First of all, I'm not going to take Kerry's word for it being a 16-pointer. I doubt most people could tell a 16 until they were made happy by a warm gut pile. To count 16 points reliably, you pretty much have to get the buck down on the ground to do it. So, if Kerry had that much time to count points, why didn't he shoot? He's such a girlie-man poseur.


35 posted on 09/26/2004 8:12:08 PM PDT by OhMike (He which hath no stomach to this fight, let him depart...we would not die in that man's company.)
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To: bear11

Can't he be arrested for owning an 'illegal' and possibly unregistered, gun?


36 posted on 09/26/2004 8:16:35 PM PDT by pray4liberty ("Egg stinks while it sits on face.")
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To: bear11
''My favorite gun is the M-16 that saved my life and that of my crew in Vietnam,'' Kerry told Outdoor Life magazine for its October issue. ''I don't own one of those now, but one of my reminders of my service is a Communist Chinese assault rifle.''

Okay. Parsing that statement (and you really have to do that with Democrats), I find nothing in it that is actually saying he owns any such thing.

Since he claims to have been a Naval Officer (in Vietnam), he should certainly know exactly what an assault rifle is, but I don't think he has one, demilled or otherwise.

37 posted on 09/26/2004 9:05:26 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Most 1973 typewriters didn't, and in 2004 this tag line still won't superscript!)
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To: bear11

When Kerry talks here about his M-16 rifle being his favorite weapon, let's not forget his highly publicized claim on the TV interview (just after his congressional testimony) where he admitted to committing various atrocities. He stated (paraphrasing) that he used 50-calibre machine guns against the VC, they being the only weapons given him by the higher-ups! No mention of his favorite weapon then...

This puke has been an anti-american liar his entire life.

His campaign being hijacked by the evil Clintons is just reward for his public life of dishonor and treason. May he reap all the benefits and rewards of being a Clinton protege!!!


38 posted on 09/26/2004 10:19:51 PM PDT by Husker8877
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To: bear11; Constitution Day; Lijahsbubbe; doug from upland; jocon307; Bob; Blood of Tyrants; ...

The Kerry campaign said Sunday it erred when answering a questionnaire for Outdoor Life magazine and said that the Massachusetts senator counts a "Communist Chinese assault rifle" as a favorite gun.

The gun is actually an inoperable single bolt rifle, not an assault weapon, said spokesman David Wade. "The Kerry campaign should have described it as an old military rifle," he said.

The senator also owns a double-barrel 12-gauge shotgun for hunting, aides said.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/27/kerry.debate.preps.ap/




So they went with the "wallhanger defense" on this one.


39 posted on 09/28/2004 8:00:19 AM PDT by DBrow (Sure, I believe him now!)
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To: Ronin
This is my rifle...this is my gun...

"Joker, the enemy never runs. He flees... patrols aren't dangerous, they're danger-filled... Style... style, Joker"
"Yes Sir."

"And uhh... Joker, where's the weenie?"
"Sir?"

"The Senate, Joker. The Senate record. All those years, committees, the Senator must have sponsored something."
"Didn't see it, sir."

"Were you actually there on that session?"
"Yes, sir."

"You must have seen a filibuster, a point of order?"
"He was campaigning, sir."

"Okay, well that's why God passed the law of probability."
"Re-write it and give it a happy ending. Law passed. Make it Education. Or a Social Security Bill. You pick."

(with apologies to Stanley Kubrick)

40 posted on 09/28/2004 8:33:16 AM PDT by dread78645 (Truth is always the right answer)
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To: DBrow
The Kerry campaign said Sunday it erred when answering a questionnaire for Outdoor Life magazine and said that the Massachusetts senator counts a "Communist Chinese assault rifle" as a favorite gun.

The gun is actually an inoperable single bolt rifle, not an assault weapon, said spokesman David Wade. "The Kerry campaign should have described it as an old military rifle," he said.

So...Kerry's favorite gun is an inoperable one?

41 posted on 10/21/2004 5:57:44 PM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: bear11
All his wife's money and all he can afford is a Chinese assault rifle???
42 posted on 10/21/2004 6:06:23 PM PDT by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: Gondring

I don't believe him either way. As I mentioned above, he could have an illegal Chinese AK and goofed when he mentioned it, and his staff is covering for him.

Or, he did have the inoperable bolt action and he lied when he said it was a war trophy assault rifle.

Either way, he is a serial liar worse than Clinton (with Clinton sometimes it took a month to find out he lied, he was that good at it).


43 posted on 10/21/2004 7:14:27 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow
Either way, he is a serial liar worse than Clinton (with Clinton sometimes it took a month to find out he lied, he was that good at it).

Worse, or just plain arrogant. Note that Clinton was arrogant and found he could get away with the lies. Now, it's even worse--the MSM don't even investigate even known problems with his record (military, Senate, etc.)

44 posted on 10/21/2004 10:24:50 PM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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