Posted on 09/27/2004 6:16:05 AM PDT by OESY
So tantalizing. Why, the New York Times seems a bit nervous here.
~smirk~
I don't wish. I know.
He has stated his source was not from the Bush WH
I don't have the article in front of me but I'm sure your statement is true in only the most technical sense...if it's true at all.
Why don't you walk us through your reasoning that if Novak has talked it would be public. I'm sure we'd all find it fascinating.
I don't have the article in front of me but I'm sure your statement is true in only the most technical sense...if it's true at all.
Of course it's true. I am not in the habit of posting falsehoods.
"Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report"
from Mission to Niger
If you want to believe your crap, fine. But don't try to get me to believe it.
I speak for common sense. Are you now trying to argue that the CIA didn't send him? Pathetic.
Really so you have seen the report he gave to the CIA, is it classified or out for public consumption???
The CIA sent him. He reported back to them. The CIA doesn't reveal such reports as a matter of policy.
That is the BIG problem with Joe Wilson's story timeline and credibility he has never told the WHOLE story. Obviously there are some out there who knows exactly what he is talking about
See a shrink.
Well, let's see.
Novak testified secretly so that no one in the Press knew about it.
He didn't tell his sources either so that they would have no chance to protect themselves against the coming storm.
Fitzgerald's office had no leakers because they were all intensely loyal to George Bush and didn't want to do anything to jeopardize his election (while, of course, continuing to maintain their impartiality).
And everyone knew that the whole thing was of minor importance and no one in the press would pick it up even if they did reveal it.
Perfectly rational. Right?
You have no shame.
Maybe the senior Administration officials were at the EPA? No doubt Novak would find it completely logical to approach them?
You have no shame.
Maybe the senior Administration officials were at the EPA? No doubt Novak would find it completely logical to approach them?
So someone at the CIA outed Plame? Oh that'll be really good if that turns out to be true.
Exactly. You mock the notion that Fitzgerald's grand jury has been leakproof, but it has. That's what's driving the NY Times nuts. The only reason we know about the other reporters is because of court rulings.
Several articles have referenced that the grand jury is tighter than a drum and there have been zero leaks. Russert made a statement as to what he testified to, but that is a statement issued to the public, not to be confused with a leak. Why you tie this grand jury to the election goes to your closed mind on this subject.
So, yes, I posit that Novak has indeed testified secretly. Your bias prohibits you from accepting that his sources would also keep mum and your thinking a storm would ensue also goes to your bias that they committed a crime or some such.
I have no idea what you think is of minor importance. I think, as I've told you before, this story is huge. We just disagree in what way.
BTW, I don't appreciate your language. Your labeling my fact-filled posts as "crap" speaks volumes to your disdain for the truth, IMO.
Well, the CIA didn't send him. The sub-group his wife works in sent him on their own volition. He did not write up a report.
He tried to claim his oral report was briefed to the VP and that turned out to be flat out false.
Why you would advise someone to see a shrink when they observe Wilson has told half-truths and been deceitful is very telling. You may wish to do some soul searching and/or seek professional help.
That would be you. I am telling it the way it is.
You can wish and hope and click your heels together three times and even wish upon a star but the Bush WH has not done anything to the Wilsons no matter how you cling to the idea.
You know that in the past proof has been provided to you that it was those friendly to the Wilsons telling reporters that the wife recommended the husband.
It was by way of explaining the otherwise inexplicable, not giving her name in order to harm the daring duo.
It's possible the grand jury has been leakproof...but highly unlikely, as I said. And we do agree that the story is huge.
As soon as you referred to my thinking as "thinking" you forfeited all right to civil discourse.
BTW, in addition to the CIA, other possible administration sources could reside at State or DOD.
Just a friendly FYI.
Let the record show that you are the one who cited the EPA in order to mock the idea that administration officials would eminate from other than the WH.
That is the CIA.
He tried to claim his oral report was briefed to the VP and that turned out to be flat out false.
He delivered his oral report to those who sent him. He then claimed that it was sent on to the VP. He was wrong...maybe.
Why you would advise someone to see a shrink when they observe Wilson has told half-truths and been deceitful is very telling
That's a distortion of our exchange.
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