That ad sounds right on to me.
Posted on 09/27/2004 2:47:11 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
After a series of ads in the University of Arizona newspaper railed against left-wing professors, a student allegedly reported Professor David Gibbs to the FBI for being "an anti-American communist who hates America."
A series of ads have been running in student newspapers across the country charging that universities are dominated by liberal or left-wing professors. The ads are paid for by well-funded groups like Students for Academic Freedom and the Independent Women's Forum. Some of the ads encourage students to report any so-called anti-American faculty or statements made by professors. And that is apparently what happened to David Gibbs, an Associate professor of History and Sociology at the University of Arizona. After his Spring course "What is Politics?", a student wrote the following on an anonymous evaluation form:
"I believe that the university should check into David Gibbs. He is an anti-American communist who hates America and is trying to brainwash young people into thinking America sucks. He needs to go and live in a Third World country to appreciate what he has here. Have him investigated by the FBI. FBI has been contacted."
David Gibbs is an associate professor of History and Sociology at the University of Arizona. He has an article in the journal New Political Science called "Pretexts and U.S. Foreign Policy: The War on Terrorism in Historical Perspective."
AMY GOODMAN: We're joined by professor David Gibbs. Associate Professor of History and Sociology at the University of Arizona. David Gibbs, this will be the first part of our conversation in the last few minutes. What happened in your class? What did you say and what did your student do?
PROFESSOR DAVID GIBBS: Well, I teach a class, a large freshman class called, “What is Politics?” that focuses on propaganda and deception, and I emphasize incidents of the government lying and things like that. The semester that I taught it, which was last spring, the Independent Women's Forum being a -- the conservative activist group put into the local newspaper, a local student newspaper, an advertisement that basically argued that there's a kind of left wing domination of the universities and students should fight that with the strong implication they should monitor their professors and report them, at least that’s how I read it. And that semester I began getting instances of that happening, specifically on my evaluation. I got, for example, a student who said I’m anti-American communist who hates America and is trying to brainwash young people into thinking that America sucks. I should be investigated by the FBI, and the FBI has been contacted. Another student on a weblog during the summer said he took my class and also said that he didn't like my politics and suggests that students shouldn't take my class but should drop by and try to disrupt it. There have been a number of instances like that which I hadn't had before.
AMY GOODMAN: What does it mean if a student were to report you? What happens then?
PROFESSOR DAVID GIBBS: I don't really know whether or not the FBI was in fact contacted, I cannot say. I'm not particularly losing sleep over the prospect of an 18-year-old calling the FBI about my politics. I think, though, it’s indicative of a larger national trend, which is conservative activist groups with lots of money and connections to the Republican Party trying to encourage and even to some extent orchestrate students and local conservative groups like those at the University of Arizona to go and basically harass faculty if they don't like their politics.
AMY GOODMAN: Does it change what you do?
PROFESSOR DAVID GIBBS: It hasn't changed what I do, no. Whether it does with other faculty, I cannot say. Yeah, this is a group Independent Women's Forum. I looked on the website, and they're putting these ads similar to the one put in the University of Arizona Wildcat and student newspapers across the country.
AMY GOODMAN: It's a full-page ad that says, “Top ten things your professors do to skew you. They push their political views, liberal opinions dominate, they don't present both sides of the debate, conservative viewpoints practically non-existent. Classrooms are for learning, not brainwashing. They force you to check your intellectual honesty at the door. They make you uncomfortable if you disagree. Grading should be based on facts not opinion. Education? More like indoctrination.” That’s the ad. We'll continue our conversation after the show and broadcast it later on Democracy Now! Professor Gibbs, thank you for being with us.
PROFESSOR DAVID GIBBS: Thank you.
Amy Goodman, eh?
This thread won't last long.
They recommend documenting their behavior so it can be argued against.
Struck a nerve. Keep on punching.
What propaganda in the headline.
The professor even admits that he is unaware if the student did in fact report him to the FBI, and dismisses any report if it actually occurred.
But given the chance to whine about IWF and Republicans I'm sure he couldn't wait to speak with Ms. Goodman.
I have nothing against blacklisting America hating CommuNazis professors. However, I don't think this is true. The professor could be just making it up to get attention.
By that reasoning, John F'n should be reported.
HEY, that's an excellent idea, I like it! jk
This guy has probably bullied students with conservative views time and time again. Turn about is fair play in my view.
This whole thing stinks of a setup. No proof of anything, just hearsay. These people would thrive at CBS.
That ad sounds right on to me.
Talk about a waste of a tub-thumping over nothing.
The word allegedly just means it may or may not have happened.
"...a student wrote the following on an anonymous evaluation form:..."
Impossible to verify or check. This sounds like another self-inflicted "hate" crime. Seems to be a rash of that lately.
Hating America can quickly evolve into criminal behavior (i.e. Treason).
Seems to me that every terrorist probably started out just talking about how much they Hate America. The Hateful actions grew from there. The Univeristy shareholders, students and parents should have some influence to ensure the classrooms are not becoming terrorist breeding grounds.
Now students have to be careful what they say in ANONYMOUS evaluations.
If this fascist hasn't been contacted by the FBI, how does he know they really were called?
Communists in our schools? No, tell me it isn't so!
Headline should really be: "Leftist Professor upset at challenge to the status quo."
"(A)n anti-American communist who hates America" is a redundancy; this is the way you write a hate-letter to yourself if you want the "perpetrator" to appear irrational, which is probably the way he views most conservatives. He may have been paraphrasing, but if this was verbatim, then I don't believe it's genuine.
Probably paints swastika symbols on his car with Tempura paint, too.
Ahhh. We've finally arrived. Free speech makes inroads into the university.
Heard on the radio today that Michael Moore has been invited by the University to speak.
We got 'em on the run...all of 'em.
"This guy has probably bullied students with conservative views time and time again. Turn about is fair play in my view."
Oh yeah! This jerk will be the first to tell his students that his left-wing oligarchy is not a democracy! Too bad for his over-inflated ego that the rest of the world doesn't care a rat's ass that he's a tenured professor.
I hate when that happens...
:^)
LOL! Don't forget that these hate America professors are also anti-Semitic.
Sounds too good to be true!
Hip, Hip, Hooray! Hip, Hip, Hooray! Hip Hip, Hooray!
Is it too early to start singing "Ding Dong the witch is dead, the wicked witch, the rich old witch. Ding Dong the wicked witch is deeeeeead!"
I once was on the faculty with an avowed Marxist, but it would never have occurred to me to report him to the FBI or the Administration, for that matter. He seemed quite sincere and proud of his political beliefs, no doubt the product of other warped teachers and an isolation from real world experience.
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http://www.gened.arizona.edu/dgibbs/
Articles by Prof Gibbs
HomePage
http://www.gened.arizona.edu/dgibbs/
Recommended Web Sites by Prof Gibbs
http://www.gened.arizona.edu/dgibbs/web_sites.htm
Apparently so! Let's keep it up!
Students for Academic Freedom
http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org/
Students for Academic Freedom Launches K-12 Initiative
Second Grader Abused in Class for Wanting to be a Soldier like Grandpa
http://www.psaf.org
"I have nothing against blacklisting America hating CommuNazis professors. However, I don't think this is true. The professor could be just making it up to get attention"
I agree this guy is lying. Because attention is being given lately concerning the extreme liberalism, nonsense and anti-Americanism being taught in our higher education institutions, he feels compelled to make it look like conservatives and the Republicans (which he mentions by name btw) are acting like fascists.
Always remember, if you are wondering what the Liberals are up to, just listen to what they are accusing others of doing! In this case, they are trying to hide their blantant Fascist principles.
I would be very interested to see how the professor dealt with the 'it's just about sex' response to perjury and obstruction of justice in his political propaganda course.
Yup. The left is hiding their true colors by calling people who disagree with them Fascist and Nazis. The fact is the left is the Fascist and Nazist.
"I teach a class, a large freshman class called, “What is Politics?” that focuses on propaganda and deception, and I emphasize incidents of the government lying and things like that."
Well Mr Gibbs...sounds like you should know all about deception and propaganda and "things like that" given that your ilk has practiced it unabated and unchallenged for so long in the red halls of cacademia.
Conservatives have always been squashed in colleges under the banner of PC. Now that they dare to speak up, you feel threatened. Good and good riddance!
Amy Goodman....the ugly America hater.
Robert F. Kennedy was there for a campaign stop in '68...not long before Los Angeles. Greeting the crowd on campus after his speech, a group of F-4s from nearby Davis-Monthan AFB flew over...on their way back to Nam. The University was right on the flight path...constantly shaking windows and disrupting classes, but no one minded much. RFK, standing in his limo, shook his fist at the fighter planes overhead. The crowd booed...
Later, in '69 or '70, a group of 12-15 anti-war protestors began a 'Sit-In' at the building known as 'Old Main', which was the original 'University' built in 1888 (or thereabouts) and then Headquarters for the Army and Air Force ROTC Detachments. The police had to be called...TO PROTECT THE PROTESTORS FROM THE ANGRY CROWD swelling with determination to throw the protestors out!
It was often said back then that if you voted for Goldwater in '64, the U.S. would soon be at war in Vietnam. We DID vote for Goldwater and...THEY were RIGHT!
If Tucson ever gets a hotel that's big enough, it would be a great place for the Republican Convention...
"Not a cowboy? Not a chance!"
"cacademia"
ROFLMAO!!! I love that!:)
I know people who go to University of Arizona. They have a really good astronomy program. It felt like a commuter school to me. I went Astronomy Camp there in middle school.
Headline could really be" One conservative professor actually thought to have driven by the UofA." Now that would be news!
If I had my way, every single last one of these pampered, tenured, ivory tower Marxists would be afraid, nay, terrified, to show their faces in public.
Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!
Would Teriyaki work better?
I see he published in "The Journal of Peace Research". I'm starting to smell a commie rat.
The truth of what's going on in our schools needs to be exposed. Not only do we have these loons trying to push maxism, they are trying to encourage kids to practice homosexual behavior!!
Now, we have Islamic brainwashing going on. We can't mention Jesus, the ten commandments of Moral behavior,hell no! But Islam is ok? Like hell it is! Islam should be BANNED, it's pure hate, which violates our hate laws.
We have to get the school system back to teaching what they are supposed to be teaching.
He has no [bleeping] idea if the FBI or anyone else was called, but that didn't stop him from convincing "Democracy" NOW to give him some air-time.
Someone needs to report Robert Jensen from the University of Texas as well!
I emphasize incidents of the government lying and things like that." I just watch Arlington Road, he better watch out he might become a fall guy for the terrorists. You know the lone-nutcase.
"Dr. Gibbs, I once was an ignorant, braying, baleful leftist like you. I probably reached the summit of smug pinktitude in law school due to the influence of professors whose educational pedigrees (passing straight from public school pupil and student to graduate student, to professorship without experiencing the rigors and shocks of real life at any point in between) were quite likely similar to your own. But unlike those professors I grew up, got married, had children and got a real job.
"I am encouraged these days by the reports of my two oldest sons (one is a senior and the other a junior at public universities) who tell me that they and most of the students they know are gagging from and completely fed up with all the left-wing bilge they're being forced to take into their brains in the classroom by the pampered upper middle-class suburban marxists who are striving to indoctrinate them into the hideous, corrupt, and failed socialist view of life.
"I am especially pleased that my sons are more discerning than I was at their age.
"Report you to the FBI? Waste of time. You're losing your students en masse and don't even realize it. Far too long you've misinterpreted their silence as approval. I have some very dear ethnic Russian friends who were reared in Kiev, Ukraine, in the 50s through the 90s. They too loathed the soul-destroying socialist poison they were given to swallow every day of their lives. They adopted clever survival strategies whereby they would appear to eagerly take the poison while hiding it under their tongues until they could spit it out in private.
"That is what is happening in your classroom, Professor Gibbs.
"To use a different metaphor, you and your ilk are dinosaurs who survived the immediate impact of the meteor blow to Lenin's unlamented experiment in human degradation in the late 1980s and early 1990s. You have been surviving by eating the fleshy detritus of the young, but they are becoming wise to your parasitic depredations. In time you will become completely irrelevant and will starve.
"That day cannot come too soon on the campuses of this great nation."
I just checked my email and discovered that Dr. Gibbs has sent a response. I think I'll sit on it a few days before reading it.
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