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New Voters Flooding Election Offices
AP News from Tampa Bay Online ^ | September 28 | ROBERT TANNER

Posted on 09/28/2004 2:22:48 PM PDT by NewMediaFan

New voters are flooding local election offices with paperwork, registering in significantly higher numbers than four years ago as attention to the presidential election runs high and an array of activist groups recruit would-be voters who could prove critical come Nov. 2.

Cleveland has seen nearly twice as many new voters register so far as compared with 2000; Philadelphia is having its biggest boom in new voters in 20 years; and counties are bringing in temporary workers and employees from other agencies to help process all the new registration forms.

Nationwide figures aren't yet available, but anecdotal evidence shows an upswing in many places, often urban but some rural. Some wonder whether the new voters - some of whom sign up at the insistence of workers paid by get-out-the-vote organizations - will actually make it to the polls on Election Day, but few dispute the registration boom.

"We're swamped," said Bob Lee, who oversees voter registration in Philadelphia. "It seems like everybody and their little group is out there trying to register people."

Some examples, from interviews with state and county officials across the country:

- New registered voters in Miami-Dade County, a crucial Florida county in 2000, grew by 65 percent through mid-September, compared with 2000.

- New registered voters jumped nearly 150 percent in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) in Ohio, one of the most hard-fought states this year.

And that's with weeks left until registration deadlines fall, beginning in October.

Curtis Gans at the Committee for the Study of the American Electorate said a clear national picture won't emerge until more applications are processed next month...

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionfraud; newvoterregistration; registrationfraud; voterfraud; voterregistration

1 posted on 09/28/2004 2:22:49 PM PDT by NewMediaFan
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Let the fraud commence...


2 posted on 09/28/2004 2:23:44 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: NewMediaFan

Those dead voters are very active considering their situation.


3 posted on 09/28/2004 2:25:36 PM PDT by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: oolatec
Let the fraud commence...

HMMMMM, worrisome to say the least.

4 posted on 09/28/2004 2:25:55 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: oolatec

Precisely. This is why I take little comfort in the polls which show W in the lead. It is not clear to me that the pollsters are reaching a representative sampling of the new voter base, and fraud will be rampant on the left.


5 posted on 09/28/2004 2:26:25 PM PDT by p. henry
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To: NewMediaFan

What are we doing to check voter fraud????? can this just be swept under the rug????


6 posted on 09/28/2004 2:26:29 PM PDT by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: NewMediaFan
From my experience, the Dems are good at getting people to sign on the dotted line, while their get-out-the-vote efforts have been mixed.

I do know that they have been heavily focused on the black areas of Miami and Orlando this time. Black turnout in the last election was underestimated by pollsters because a story in the Miami Herald on the Sunday before the election indicated that Bush would repeal affirmative action.

If Bush gets a cushion from other voters in the I-4 corridor (he split the area the last time), then all the high black/Carribean turnout in theworld isn't going to save Kerry.

7 posted on 09/28/2004 2:27:19 PM PDT by Clemenza (I LOVE Halliburton, SUVs and Assault Weapons. Any Questions?)
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To: NewMediaFan

Look, there are still a lot of nutjobs who think Bush "stole" 2000, and turnabout is fair play.

They WILL be voting early and often out there.

Will fear of the unknown (Kerry the serial waffler) bring enough swing votes in to overwhelm the cheaters???


8 posted on 09/28/2004 2:29:11 PM PDT by kidkosmic1 (www.InterviewwithGod.com)
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To: oolatec

That's why Kerry isn't spending more money in Missouri, they have to pile up funds for the recount. Mary Jane Cahill, formerly Kerry's campaign manager, is now in charge of raising that money.


9 posted on 09/28/2004 2:29:30 PM PDT by hershey
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To: NewMediaFan

We really need to monitor the polls nationwide. The NM GOP is looking statewide for poll watchers. They are going to conduct training for poll watchers as well. I am signing up. All FReepers ought to do the same.


10 posted on 09/28/2004 2:33:27 PM PDT by wjcsux (Don't be a girly man! Vote Republican!)
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To: NewMediaFan
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11 posted on 09/28/2004 2:33:33 PM PDT by Nachum (Kerry spells "Fine Dining")
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Dems sign up new voters...


12 posted on 09/28/2004 2:35:06 PM PDT by NewMediaFan (Fake but accurate)
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To: NewMediaFan
I think most of the ballots are put in by people who are staffing ACT and such groups just to keep their quotas up. I suspect their will be some hanky panky out there, but I also suspect it will be less then we imagine. I do think however that the GOP needs to get cracking and digging into these voters to prove they are there and make an issue of it.
13 posted on 09/28/2004 2:35:29 PM PDT by bilhosty
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To: Tempest

I know. My dad voted Republican his entire life, but since he died he's voted straight Democratic.


14 posted on 09/28/2004 2:36:19 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: pollywog
can this just be swept under the rug????

They always do...We had that report a few months ago about the 40,000 voters who were voting in New York and Florida. We sure haven't heard any more about it.
Are they still registered to vote in both states?
15 posted on 09/28/2004 2:37:02 PM PDT by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: oolatec

For some reason I have a really bad feeling about this. Given the liberal mantra of "Count every vote," I'm having trouble seeing how these wonderful BOE folks are going to verify the votes as actual, living, registered voters.

The areas that seem most affected are big EC states...OH, FL, IA, MO, MI...The Constitution is very clear...the first Tuesday of November. This is what happens when you make it easier, rather than harder to vote.

Thoughts?


16 posted on 09/28/2004 2:44:29 PM PDT by blteague
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To: mugs99

PEOPLE NEED TO GO TO THEIR LOCAL REGISTRAR/POLLING PLACE AND GET INVOLVED.

DO NOT JUST TALK.


17 posted on 09/28/2004 2:45:50 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: NewMediaFan

On the other hand, I've read that the GOP is signing up record numbers of new voters, so surely some of these numbers belong to the GOP. They are not ALL Dems. And the ones the GOP signs up are more likely to actually vote. The young people, good intentions aside, don't actually book it to the polls, if they have something better to do.


18 posted on 09/28/2004 2:46:21 PM PDT by TexasBud
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To: pollywog
What are we doing to check voter fraud????? can this just be swept under the rug????

Yes.
Blame it on "the new tone."

19 posted on 09/28/2004 2:46:40 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Yeah, I have a 1998 signup date. So?)
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To: NewMediaFan

Just curious - how many were actually citizens and eligible to vote?


20 posted on 09/28/2004 2:47:01 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The Swiftboat Vets - Patriotic Americans STILL serving their country!)
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To: NewMediaFan

I just wish some evidence of collusion between the Kerry campaign and some vote scammers could be uncovered in 2 or more states. That would sink the Democrats forever.


21 posted on 09/28/2004 2:47:42 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: NewMediaFan

Need a photoshop whiz to add a few Kerry-Edwards lawn signs to the cemetery, then you got yourself a nice pic.


22 posted on 09/28/2004 2:49:40 PM PDT by Tuxedo
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To: NewMediaFan

23 posted on 09/28/2004 2:51:16 PM PDT by LRS (Just one of the 'scumbags')
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To: ClearCase_guy
I just wish some evidence of collusion between the Kerry campaign and some vote scammers could be uncovered in 2 or more states. That would sink the Democrats forever.

Don't count on it... Even if they were connected to scammers by video evidence, the Media would cover for them and they'd skate. Don't forget the shopping bags of cash delivered to the Clinton White House and nothing happened.

24 posted on 09/28/2004 2:53:13 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: oolatec

How many of them are classified as "homeless without ID" aka illegal aliens?


25 posted on 09/28/2004 2:54:33 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: NewMediaFan
How algore almost stole an election .....



Bug-eyed Chad Search


26 posted on 09/28/2004 2:54:44 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Mister Baredog

"HMMMMM, worrisome to say the least."

Absolutely..it is clear the DEMS are going to steal teh election. Question is are we prepared to take up arms if necessary?


27 posted on 09/28/2004 2:59:56 PM PDT by OhGeorgia
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To: NewMediaFan
What's really suspicious is this application dump so close to the deadline.

If new voters were really interested in signing up, I'd have expected to see a steady build throughout the campaign season. If the spike in registration is happening all at once, and this close to the deadline, could it really be an attempt to swamp the registrar offices so as to hide the illegal applications?

-PJ

28 posted on 09/28/2004 3:00:35 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: OhGeorgia
Question is are we prepared to take up arms if necessary?

I may be too old for the Iraq war, but not this one, let them try, remember Florida!!!!!!

29 posted on 09/28/2004 3:07:31 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Mister Baredog

I am getting tired hearing about voter fraud but no one suggests doing anything about it. It seems Kerry plans on stealing 4 states, OH, FL, IA and WI. yet no one does anything just complains.

We are rapidly approaching the point where violence against he left maybe our only option


30 posted on 09/28/2004 3:12:35 PM PDT by OhGeorgia
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To: wjcsux

Poll watchers arent the answer since it is being done by absentee ballots. A lot of good poll watching wil ldo.


31 posted on 09/28/2004 3:13:39 PM PDT by OhGeorgia
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To: NewMediaFan

I wonder how many are actually alive. Or, for that matter, actually exist at all except on the registration.


32 posted on 09/28/2004 3:15:34 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: OhGeorgia
Why is my ID not checked when I go to vote? I have to give out my social security number to rent a storage unit from Ace, but not to vote. Renting an apartment requires a credit check and all sorts of information, but voting? Nothing.

Require a valid photo ID in the state where voters will be voting. That solves 90% of the problem.

33 posted on 09/28/2004 3:22:33 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: OhGeorgia
Question is are we prepared to take up arms if necessary?

You don't need to ask me that question...AS FOR ME GIVE ME LIBERTY OR DEATH! ;)

34 posted on 09/28/2004 3:34:54 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: p. henry

If you consider media bias to have about the same effect in polls as fraud in the election it's a wash.


35 posted on 09/28/2004 3:46:02 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: doc11355

Tell me more about the bags of cash. I don't know that one.


36 posted on 09/28/2004 3:51:52 PM PDT by perfect stranger (The Hummer is a regular Pat Buchanan on wheels." PJ O'Rourke from C&D magazine)
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To: NewMediaFan
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37 posted on 09/28/2004 3:52:24 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: blteague; oolatec; NewMediaFan; dubyaismypresident; conspiratoristo; ...
re: "Count Every Vote"...I have big concerns about college "get out the vote" drives, not to mention all the other shenanigans going on...

I must report on 2 e-messages that arrived in my college "mail" today: the first linked to a NYT editorial as "recommended reading", which editorial criticized local folks for not being encouraging/active/helpful enough in allowing/getting students to vote locally (as in, in the precinct of their "temporary" college residence)...the article also referenced "public interest groups", but we "residents" need to be more encouraging too...and the Supreme Court has apparently established it as a right for students (and other "temporary residents"?) to vote at their currently "local" polling places (while also recommending setting up polls right on campus...aargh!)...

The second message was simply to announce that "we and our students" might want to attend the ACT Vote for Change concerts, being held in Ohio, and there were some tickets available by calling 202 4l9-l040.

Then there was also an earlier announcement that the College Democrats would have a voter-registration booth at the student union center everyday at meal-times...

To be scrupulously fair, the PoliSci dept. sends out lots of info., but I'm tryng to remember if announcements were made about W or Laura's various local visits? I know Kerry/Edwards stops have been noted...

Last but not least...the recent information shared about a certain informal survey and the completely shocking lack of knowledge regarding current events among the undergraduates...

It begs the questions: why would we want uninformed people to vote? and if these students were informed and interested, why have they not already arranged for an absentee ballot from their home precinct?? (the ones I know have...)

We have already had cases here of dead people registering, and absentee ballots being obtained fraudulently (imagine...none of these "new voters" can spell the name of the street they all live on, but they're not going to be there anywaysince they're all planning to be out of town during election week, too)...so while I certainly encourage young people to exercise their right to vote, the possibilities at the college of undue influence on immature students, and/or the potential "gold mine" of double votes (local plus absentee, "a la Florida") makes me very worried!!

Perhaps I should just write that "in reply" on the school mail?! What else can I do? (pinging dubya and con to ping the NE Ohio list...and pinging card for "local distribution", LOL!)

38 posted on 09/28/2004 3:53:16 PM PDT by 88keys
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To: NewMediaFan
I think the administration needs to lay down the law with several high profile voter fraud busts prior to the election. A few scenes of people who were involved with "The voting dead" being hauled off and read miranda may change a few minds. The administration would be asking for trouble if they didn't do at least this much.
39 posted on 09/28/2004 3:55:51 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: oolatec

Rather than take that point of view -- do what they suggested today at the Laura Bush Rally in Salem, OR!

Every registered Republican go out and get two new Republican voters registered.

I know I am taking a ballot to someone who just moved to Keizer (next to Salem) from Tillamook!


40 posted on 09/28/2004 4:00:58 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: 88keys; nomad; OneLoyalAmerican; DollyCali; boxerblues; conspiratoristo; Pontiac; Las Vegas Dave; ..
Perhaps I should just write that "in reply" on the school mail?! What else can I do? (pinging dubya and con to ping the NE Ohio list...and pinging card for "local distribution", LOL!)

You got it.

41 posted on 09/28/2004 5:30:55 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Day 20, and the pajamahadeen still demands Dan Rather be fired)
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To: MeanWestTexan

How will that help?
The fraud is happening mostly with absentee ballots.
People live and vote in Florida, and vote with an absentee ballot in New York.

How many states is this happening in?
How many of these criminals are voting in three or more states?


42 posted on 09/28/2004 5:55:55 PM PDT by mugs99 (Restore the Constitution)
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To: mugs99
Does anyone know how the absentee ballots are reconciled?
There has to be a system of verification to make sure double votes don't happen.

I know here in Ohio I've received 2 mailers to get an absentee ballot and actually sent one in today, because I'm getting some minor surgery in a few weeks and I don't want to take the chance of not being mobile on Nov. 2nd.

Plus, I just got an automated phone call today from the GOP office to notify me to use that absentee ballot if I need to.

If vote fraud was an easy thing to do I think it would have been an issue before this election, but I know nothing about the back end verification process. Anyone?
43 posted on 09/28/2004 6:56:34 PM PDT by libs_kma (Hanoi Jane and John . She's nothing but a washed up old, prune faced hag...and Fonda is too.)
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To: NewMediaFan; 88keys; Akron Al; babyface00; Badray; Bikers4Bush; boxerblues; Captiva; ...

BTTT


44 posted on 09/28/2004 8:07:01 PM PDT by North Coast Conservative (Never Take a Gun to a Gunfight That Is Less Than .40 Cal)
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To: conspiratoristo; NewMediaFan
Unless this voter fraud is by absentee ballot, I cannot see how it can happen. I am not saying that, it could not in some districts. When I worked the polls, if someone had voted absentee, their signature was already written in the poll book. If someone had moved or was new to the area, we sent them to the Board of Elections. We would not let them vote, just because they said they lived here. No name in book, no vote.

I am glad to see Americans excerising their right to vote. Certainly not all of these voters will vote for Senator Kerry.

45 posted on 09/29/2004 6:30:13 AM PDT by MissTargets
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