Ann Coulter and Pat Caddell on Hannity & Colmes tonight - Tueday, 9/28/04

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[nutmeg]

From FoxNews.com:

We'll talk politics and preview the first presidential debate with "Treason" author Ann Coulter and former Democratic strategist Pat Caddell.

Plus, which questions will be the hardest for the president and Senator Kerry to answer on Thursday night? "USA Today" columnist and author Walter Shapiro will join the debate with his provocative answers!

[UncleSamUSA]

To ADemocratNoMore:

Just wanted to tell you that my own personal story has been very, very similar to yours.

I was a lifelong democrat-liberal, but mainly out of habit and not out of any deep incisive THINKING (my bad). I just went along with the usual Democratic/lib garbage every election, except in 1980 when I voted for Ronald Reagan because I thought that Jimmy Carter was a disaster for America (an opinion I still share and feel even more strongly about given what Jimmah is up to now).

For me everything started to change after 9/11. Living in NYC, just a few miles north of the WTC, this had a huge impact on me and my life. The thing that started turning me against the lifelong Demo/lib think I had been in was the Homeland Security Act fiasco, where the dems were stalling passage because they wanted everyone working in the security field to be unionized. I thought -- oh great, we just have 3000 dead and all the democrats care about is getting more unionized voters.

AFter that, I began to question more and more of what I heard from the left. I cancelled my ages-old subscrioption to the NY TImes during the Iraq war out of disgust with what they were publishing .. I had been increasingly angered by them but the Iraq war coverage pushed me over the edge.

I am now a Rush listener, a Bush voter and am currently reading books by Ann Coulter and Bernie Goldberg. And agreeing with almost everything I read. I DESPISE Michael Moore, Al Franken and the Demo talking heads like Colmes.

So I have come a long long way in a very short time. And I suspect there are many more like you and me.

New blood for the Republican and conservative cause.

[JLAGRAYFOX]

It's not strange at all. People with half a brain realize that Bill Clinton is directly responsible for enabling 911. Women also realize that if John Kerry is elected, not only will their children be unsafe, but they will be in mortal danger themselves. Muslim terrorists hate Women, Jews, Christians, Blacks, Gays, Lesbians, etc. with a passion. When they get a murder open season on Americans because of John Kerry and the Democrat Party weakness on defending America, women will be subject to rape, torture, hanging, beheading or, they will just be shot. Wake up to the reality of the world we live in. Our country is at war with these radicals!!! This election is a critical path item for the USA. Kerry and the Democrat Party must be destroyed at the ballot box this November 2nd. Your freedom and security are at stake!!!

[ADemocratNoMore]

> in 1980 when I voted for Ronald Reagan because I thought that Jimmy Carter was a disaster for America

Liked Carter at the time, couldn't stand Ronald Reagan.
Now, when I hear the latest from Carter, or Ted Kennedy,
Ron Reagan or the rest of their ilk I question their sanity.
On the other hand, I was quite moved at the passing of President Reagan, particularly the masses of citizens who lined the roads to pay him their final respects.

> Living in NYC, just a few miles north of the WTC

I can't even imagine what that would have been like.

> The thing that started turning me against the lifelong Demo/lib think I had been in was the Homeland Security Act fiasco

That and the Patriot act. The aclu has been running spots here against and you know how long it would stay on the books if Kerry and company get elected. Its the law of the land now and I don't see the government burning any books,
throwing anybody in the Gulag for posting on the Internet or
getting the "wrong" books out of the library.

> I had been increasingly angered by them

Not just the nyt but my local newspaper, radio and television stations as well. Sometimes they get my blood pressure seriously up.

> I am now a Rush listener, a Bush voter and am currently reading books by Ann Coulter and Bernie Goldberg

Dittos

[nicksaunt]

Great post. Welcome.

[q_an_a]

good for you. keep reading.

[texasmountainman]

Live long and prosper!

[Enchante]

Thanks for the comments. I've gone through a very similar progression, except for me the defining moment came back at the time of Saddam's invasion of Kuwait. I was already becoming disgusted with political correctness, etc. but the prospect of allowing Saddam to use Kuwait's oil revenues to continue building his WMDs into a mid-East superpower made me realize that all the liberals like Kerry (who voted against the resolution on that war) would just whine and whimper while thugs like Saddam grew in power. It was the recognition that people like Kerry/Dean/Edwards are the Chamberlains and appeasers of our age.

[JusPasenThru]

Yep. He's one scary dude all right.

[JusPasenThru]

There's a delightful book that was published several years ago by the name of "How I Accidentally Became a Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" by Harry Stein. I think you would enjoy it.

And while we're confessing about the dark side of our lives, I worked in the '68 campaign (volunteer, of course) for Hubert Humphrey and voted for Jimmah not once but twice. I know I'm going to have to spend an extra few thousand years in Purgatory for that one.

[UncleSamUSA]

JusPasen:
Thanks for the book tip. I will definitely check it out.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[TASMANIANRED]

Welcome aboard Free Republic. If there was a welcome thread that I missed , I'm sorry. I'll extend it now.

What has happened to you has happened to a lot of us.

When you quit believing in politics as a faith based process and look at it intellectually a lot of things happen.

The first is the obviousness that liberalism is based on feelings and not logic.

The second is the awareness that liberalism is based on the assumption that people are worthless idiot children that need to be taken care of and that power devolves from the government to the "right" people.

The third is awareness of the falsity in the position that taking money away from people at the top and discrediting people that have worked to achieve will elevate those at the bottom.

When you question these premises the world will never be the same again.

[ADemocratNoMore]

> Welcome aboard Free Republic.

Thank you.

[Gracey]

Congratulations! We all need to think and evaluate the way you did. Appreciate your frankness. It's OK that it took you a little longer to have your eyes opened.

I still believe in a strong two party system as the best for our country. However, as Zell Miller and others stated, the party has been hijacked. I'm saddened by that.

In Texas you will find that a large portion of our citizens have transferred their party allegiance.
Welcome to FR.

[Gracey]

If you all wish to read articles by an ex leftist try anything by David Horowitz. He was a member of the Black Panthers back in the 60's.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/

[PajamaTruthMafia]

I hate to burst some bubbles here, but one of the most outrageous things I ever saw on TV was what Pat Cadell did on the eve of the Iraq war (literally a day or 2 before the start). Pat was on Hardball with Chrissy and foaming at the mouth (literally) screaming that the war was a "tissue of lies" by the Bush administration and the government had been hijacked by the "Jacobins" Really outrageous stuff. He was supposed to be on talking about polls with Lutz but Chrissy let him run on totally unchallenged. Lutz finally had to step in an say something. Like "calm down Pat. We are here to talk about the polls"

Pat was then on Hardball again shortly after the war started playing military expert criticizing tactics and troop levels. He started on the "coup" and "Jacobins" stuff again and finally Chrissy had to cut him off. After those episodes he disappeared for a while (months and months) and the new Pat Cadell (a very different man with a different demeanor) showed up on FOX.

Pat has always been an honest critic for the most part, especially about his own party and even more so now. I think he went temporarily crazy around the start of war... One thing's for sure, he's a changed man.

[Blogger]

Thank you for that. It gives some perspective.

[Christian4Bush]

For me everything started to change after 9/11.

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BUMP to your story, and the one to which you replied.

That one sentence, "everything started to change after 9-11", is what the Islamoleftists know...and they don't want most people to know.

They can't show the planes hitting the buildings. They can't show the people jumping, prefering a "quick" death to one by burning, suffocation or crushing. They can't show the buildings coming down, or the damage to the Pentagon, or the crater in Pennsylvania.

And they SURE can't show the transcripts of the conversations between the 911 operator and Todd Beamer (a prayer, and a resolve against terror). They can't show people from all over the world sympathizing with America, grieving with us. They can't show the thousands of people who cheered the firefighters and police officers in New York.

They can't show the thousands of people who showed up in 9/11's aftermath to donate blood and platelets, so many in fact that--like the Israelites giving to the ancient tabernacle--they had to ask the people to stop giving. They can't show the United States Secretary of Defense "humping out the wounded" at the Pentagon.

They sure as heck can't show a president, going against his security staff's advice, going to the site of the country's worst attack in almost exactly 60 years, three days after the attack, having some words that he planned to say, and instead delivered a verbal can of whupass to the terrorists that would soon be backed up by America's finest.

No, to the IslamoLeftists, 9-11 never happened. If it did (since it did), they have to blame Bush. Yeah, never mind that much of the root of the problem started before his father became Vice President...never mind that he had only been in office for 9 days shy of 8 months...

It was Bush's fault. He knew about it beforehand, I think (Howard Dean's words), he brought down da towers (stupid popular rap song by Jada [can] kissmy ---), Bush is a liar, a deserter, an idiot, a puppet, a thief (of elections), a job destroyer, and just an all-around bad guy. /left barfing points

So to hear you and ADemocratNoMore say that 9/11 changed things for you, is refreshing. I just hope that it doesn't take another 9/11, or--worse--what 9/11 was intended to have been, for more people to come out from the dark side.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Coulter doesn't do well when she's ahead or something. She appears really distracted and/or disinterested.

This is one of the few things Fox News does that really makes me mad at them. Coulter was getting the questions on a delay. It did make her look off her game. Fox hasn't done this for a while, and used to tell us when they were having such problems. This time they didn't inform us for some reason.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

I forgot to add to that last one that there are Freepers with first hand experience dealing with the delay while being interviewed from a remote studio on "Hannity and Colmes".

We hadn't seen it in a while and it does make the remote guest look like they're lost, until you notice the delay.