Posted on 09/28/2004 5:35:11 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Ohio's secretary of state says Ralph Nader won't be on the state's presidential ballot because of forged signatures on petition forms and petitions circulated by non-Ohioans.
Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell says today the independent candidate was short of the 5,000 valid signature required to qualify.
Blackwell, a Republican, said Nader's backers wound up with 3,700 valid signatures.
They had turned in nearly 15,000 signatures, but about 6,400 were declared valid after review by local elections boards. An additional 2,700 were invalidated following a hearing last week at Blackwell's office.
Democrats blame Nader's presence on the ballot in Florida in 2000 for costing Al Gore the election. They say they're happy with Blackwell's ruling.
I wonder how many of them were signed by Lt Col Jerry Killian.
All I know is the few Nader petitions I sent in were legit.
Is the Ohio State Sec. a democrap?
Nader has had to spend most of his money just to get onto ballots. The only thing more dangerous than a third party candidate with his own agenda is a third party candidate with you as his only agenda. Hate is a two way street. Another great move by the Rats.
Dems all for free speech, but they want Nadar off - why one asks? Liberals are a load (and I have a LOT of experience with them!)
Mr. Blackwell the fashion critic? Ivy League is so passe.
No, he is a very good black Republican who also has disallowed a bunch of new voter registrations which were not on the correct paper stock (likely were Dem frauds)...
No! He is the most conservative Republican we have in Ohio.
If Ken says they are fakes, sadly they are fakes.
The documents were forged, but the intent of the people signing them is clear: they want Nader on the ballot. Therefore, Nader should be allowed on the Ohio ballot...
at least if you're following the usual leftist train of thought..
when is 3,700 + 6,400 not greater then 5,000?
So then....there is now proof that liberals try to steal elections.
They may need the Ohio State Sec. in Iowa.
And we need Mr. Blackwell in as Ohio governor in 2006.
That Stinks !!! We were enjoying having Ralph on the ballot. But do not dispair - W will win Ohio without Ralph's help.
Betcha Democrats sabotaged ole ralphie boy's petition drive.
This is both good and bad. Assuming Nader is indeed off the Ohio ballot, it means that he will spend more time in other states where he will cause Lurch even more damage -- Minnesota and Wisconsin, for starters.
Assuming Bush will win Ohio comfortably, this may be net good news.
"when is 3,700 + 6,400 not greater then 5,000?"
Democrat situational tactics will come back to roost every time. Is there anything problematic for them that they can't judge shop for as a solution? A solution which they then later will need reversed in order to support the next need to obfuscate the law.
No. Actually Blackwell is the most conservative Republican at the state level. Most of the others are major RINOS, including Gov. Taft.
Blackwell is a straight shooter and even though I hate to see it, there must have been something seriously wrong with the petitions.
Nope. He's a true-believer conservative Republican, as right-wing as they come.
Ken Blackwell is the most unusual of politicians. He is a totally honest man. Politics had zero to do with Ken's decision. As you say.. if they were not fakes, Nader would be on the ballot.
That paper thing isn't going to fly. He can't disallow federal applications regardless of whether it's on 80lb stock and also there is a pretty good argument that his doing this is against the Voting Rights Act. We'll see if the Rats get a judge to agree.
ISSUE 1
PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT
(Proposed by Initiative Petition)
Be it Resolved by the People of the State of Ohio:
That the Constitution of the State of Ohio be amended by adopting a section to be designated as Section 11 of Article XV thereof, to read as follows:
Article XV
Section 11. Only a union between one man and one woman may be a marriage valid in or recognized by this state and its political subdivisions. This state and its political subdivisions shall not create or recognize a legal status for relationships of unmarried individuals that intends to approximate the design, qualities, significance or effect of marriage.
A majority yes vote is necessary for passage.
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YES
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SHALL THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT BE ADOPTED?
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NO
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EXPLANATION AND ARGUMENT IN SUPPORT OF
MARRIAGE PROTECTION AMENDMENT (ISSUE 1)
Vote YES on Issue 1 to preserve in Ohio law the universal, historic institution of marriage as the union of one man and one woman, and to protect marriage against those who would alter and undermine it.
WHAT ISSUE 1 DOES:
• Issue 1 establishes in the Ohio Constitution the historic definition of marriage as exclusively between one man and one woman as husband and wife.
• Issue 1 excludes from the definition of marriage homosexual relationships and relationships of three or more persons.
• Issue 1 prohibits judges in Ohio from anti-democratic efforts to redefine marriage, such as was done by a bare majority of the judges of the Massachusetts Supreme Court, which ordered that same-sex “marriage” be recognized in that state.
• Issue 1 restricts governmental bodies in Ohio from using your tax dollars to give official status, recognition and benefits to homosexual and other deviant relationships that seek to imitate marriage.
WHAT ISSUE 1 DOES NOT DO:
• Issue 1 does not interfere in any way with the individual choices of citizens as to the private relationships they desire to enter and maintain.
• Issue 1 does not interfere in any way with government benefits granted to persons in non-marital homosexual relationships, so long as the government does not grant those benefits to such persons specifically for the reason that the relationship is one that seeks to imitate marriage.
The wisdom of the ages tells us that marriage between one man and one woman is critical to the well being of our children and to the maintenance of the fundamental social institution of the family. Please vote to preserve marriage on November 2, 2004.
Please Vote YES on Issue 1, the Marriage Protection Amendment.
Submitted by the Ohio Campaign to Protect Marriage:
Rev. K.Z. Smith
Lori Viars
Phil Burress
The Ohio Marriage Amendment. It's Not What You Think.
It Hurts Families.
If passed, Issue 1 will eliminate rights, benefits and protections for all unmarried couples in Ohio. Claims that it merely restates Ohio's long-standing definition of marriage are untrue. Even Defense of Marriage Act author State Representative Bill Seitz said the amendment is poorly written and too ambiguous. Governor Taft and Attorney General Petro say it goes too far.
While claiming to protect Ohio families, Issue 1 actually punishes:
• Senior living together to protect pension benefits
• Unmarried couples seeking to jointly own property
• People who receive health benefits from domestic partner plans
• Unmarried women seeking maternity leave
• Adopted children of unmarried couples
If this amendment passes, even an unmarried person's right to leave property to a partner could not be recognized by Ohio courts.
Referring to leaders behind the amendment, The Canton Repository said …
“They make no bones about wanting to make life as difficult as possible for all couples, gay or straight, who don't toe their moral line.”
It Hurts Ohio's Economy.
Leading economic and legal experts agree that Issue 1 would have a negative impact on our struggling economy. The editorial page editor of the Cleveland Plain Dealer stated in a recent editorial that this amendment would cost the state thousands of jobs, and help perpetuate Ohio's “long and relentless dive to the bottom.”
Crain's Cleveland Business summed up the economic impact by stating, “The ability to offer such benefits [domestic partner benefits] is a critical tool to many companies and universities in Ohio. The article concluded the editorial by saying …
“Regardless of your feelings about gay marriage, this amendment deserves to be defeated because it is anti-business and anti-competitive.”
VOTE NO ON ISSUE 1. PROTECT OHIO FAMILIES AND JOBS.
Submitted By: Ohioans Protecting the Constitution Alan Melamed, Chair Mary Jo Hudson, Treasurer
In 2000 in the final weeks of the election, gore spent lots of time in Florida talking to Nader supporters. He told them over and over again, that if they voted for Nader instead of Gore, Bush would be elected.
Any reporter who has spent any time at all interviewing splinter party members hears the same story. First the third party members will tell you there is not a dimes woth of difference between Democrats and Republicans.
Think about it. If green party members would not vote for Al "Earth In the Balance" Gore, which democrat would they vote for. Gore who preached against Global Warming on the coldest day in years, was not green enough for the Nader followers.
If Nader is not on the ohio ballot, about half the Nader voters will not vote. The other half will split their votes between Kerry and Bush. Go talk to them. They will tell you over and over there is no difference between Bush and Kerry.
We see lots of differnce between Bush and Kerry. But the the Greenies. They see zero difference between Bush and Kerry. If they can't have nader, and they vote... half will flip the coin for Bush and half will flip the coin for Kerry.
The media tells us that undecideds break for the challenger. That is just not true. We have a hundred years experiece to prove that is not true. The late breaking voters break for the Devil they know rather than the devil they don't know. Lacking some special stimulus late breaking undecideds always break for the incumbent. The media tells us if Nader is not on the ballot, the Greeies will vote for Kerry. That is not true either. They split 50-50.
If he's kicking out fake voter registrations then more power to him!
That said, this may be a good thing. I'm not so sure Nader is pulling from Kerry anymore.
15,000 signatures and 12,000 declared invalid.
My guess is we are looking at the same ratio for the newly registered and absentee ballots the Democrat party is submitting too.
I spent 90 minutes trying to get signatures. All I got was 10. Thanks for your efforts though.
I'm flabbergasted that you are flabbergasted. The terms honest and liberal can not coexist in nature.
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