Posted on 09/28/2004 6:53:55 PM PDT by mombrown1
Tonight CBS was at it again. They ran a story about the draft and never referred to SB 89 by Fritz Hollings (SC-D) and HR163 - Charles Rangel (D-New York), Jim McDermott (D-Washington), John Conyers (D-Michigan), John Lewis (D-Georgia), Pete Stark (D-California) and Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii).
I have already emailed CBS evening@cbsnews.com and complained.
The transcript follows:
The Issues: Reviving The Draft
PHILADELPHIA, Sept. 28, 2004
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/28/eveningnews/main646055.shtml
(CBS) CBS News continues an election-year series titled "What Does It Mean To You?" focused on where the presidential candidates stand on major issues and how a vote for one or the other candidate might affect average people's lives.
In this report, CBS News Correspondent Richard Schlesinger looks at what President Bush and Sen. John Kerry say about the possibilities of reinstituting the military draft.
Beverly Cocco has spent most of her life protecting children in Philadelphia.
She spends most of her time worrying about other people's kids. But as Election Day approaches, it's her own two grown sons who Beverly is most worried about.
"I go to bed every night and I pray and I actually get sick to my stomach," she says. "I'm very worried; I'm scared. I'm absolutely scared; I'm petrified."
Beverly is petrified about a military draft – and she's not alone. There's an undercurrent of anxiety; mass e-mails are circulating among parents worried their kids could be called up.
"I think there's a good possibility," Beverly says.
But neither President Bush, nor Sen. John Kerry has said he will re-institute the draft. In fact they both say they won't.
Kerry says, "I will give us a foreign policy that absolutely makes it unnecessary to have a draft for this country."
Kerry says he'll try to get allies of the U.S. to send troops that could relieve American soldiers.
The Bush campaign says expecting great numbers of foreign troops to help out is pure fantasy. The president wants to train more Iraqi troops to take over for the Americans. And, he says, despite the war on terror, there will be no draft.
"The war on terror will continue," says the president. "It's going to take a while and no, we don't need a draft."
But Beverly's not buying it. She's a Republican, but also a single-issue voter.
Would she vote for a Democrat? "Absolutely," she says. "I would vote for Howdy Doody if I thought it would keep my boys home and safe."
In fact, there are at least three votes in this house riding on the draft: Beverly's and her sons' Carmen and Nick.
Are her sons worried about being drafted? "Yeah," says Nick. "It's the talk; the talk's there. Though people aren't actually coming out and saying it, it's there."
What worries the Coccos is the continuing need for more troops in dangerous places. And the machinery for a draft is already in place: all men have to register when they turn 18.
The head of the Selective Service believes he could start drafting people quickly.
"I think we could do it in less than six months if we got the call," says Selective Service Director Jack Martin.
This time, Martin says there would be no long deferments for college students and a lot more people could be eligible for the draft than before: men and women ages 18 to 26 could be called up.
There hasn't been a draft since 1973, but that's not much comfort to Beverly Cocco.
So she is keeping a sharp eye on the political traffic. She's a Bush supporter today, but if she doesn't like what she hears between now and November, she could easily cross over.
©MMIV, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.
CBS continues is anti-Bush agenda for all the world to see. They aren't fooling anyone anymore. Kerry's ball and chain, actually.
Was a draft ever mentioned by W as being re-introduced, or was this just conjured up by the left?
Fox needs to run a full investigative report on this draft conspiracy before it gets out of hand... The Left is going to scare the young mothers and young voters with all this dribble and the worst part is that under a Kerry administration we can look forward to military pay reductions, military budget cuts, military cut backs and so many will get out of the military because they will refuse to serve for that coward... The pentagon will be forced to ask congress for draft legislation to maitain end strength... Keep Kerry out for your childrens sake...
Fox needs to run a full investigative report on this draft conspiracy before it gets out of hand... The Left is going to scare the young mothers and young voters with all this dribble and the worst part is that under a Kerry administration we can look forward to military pay reductions, military budget cuts, military cut backs and so many will get out of the military because they will refuse to serve for that coward... The pentagon will be forced to ask congress for draft legislation to maitain end strength... Keep Kerry out for your childrens sake...
A Bush call for the draft only exists in the fantasy world of the left.
Heres what needs to happen at our end, start our own mass email campaign saying Kerry wants to reinstate the draft along with the democratic sponsors of the bill, the proof is overwhelming against them, not us.
Yeah... home and safe and working at the World Trade Center.
The Dems introduced and sponsored the draft in 2003 HR 163 & SB 89
http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=54&id=9
Bud Beck, of the Bud Beck Show, Mountain Laurel Review, and Political
Gateway, perpetrated an act of political misinformation and bigotry
in his June 9, 2004 column, "Graduation Presents."
He writes about his nephew who just graduated high school with
honors, who comes from a "privileged" background, and identifies
himself as Republican. Beck writes:
"I mentioned to him, causally of course as not to ruin his day or the
festive atmosphere, about the possibility of him winding up in the
army before he graduates from Ohio State. I received a blank stare.
What was I talking about?
"I explained the Republican heroes in the White House, the Congress,
and the Senate have introduced pending bills mandating the nation
bring back the draft. "Right now there is pending draft legislation
that is targeted to go into effect in the spring of 2005. "That's
right, the hated Draft will start once more in June 2005 - June 15 to
be exact."
In the typical liberal fashion, Beck was trying to spew his liberal
propaganda unto the impressionable ears of his Republican nephew,
perhaps in an attempt to dissuade him from identifying with the
Republican party.
Why do I suggest Bud Beck was "spewing liberal propaganda?" Beck
continues to misinform:
"I went on to tell him the pending legislation in the Senate and the
House (they are twin bills: Senate Bill 89 and HR 163) is timed so
the program's initiation (a new draft) can begin at early as Spring
2005 – just after the 2004 presidential election. "Steve didn't know
about these bills and neither did his father, my brother. Did you?
And if you didn't, why don't you? Think about it!"
Liberals think all Republicans are stupid… even their own family. In
the age of Al Gore's Internet, simple research will trounce on Beck's
alleged facts.
Looking first at Senate Bill 89, one can quickly and easily note that
this bill was introduced on January 7, 2003 by Senator Fritz Hollings
(D-South Carolina).
Now, looking at HR 163, one will note the names on the bill
introduced the same day that Senator Hollings introduced SB 89:
Representatives Charles Rangel (D-New York), Jim McDermott (D-
Washington), John Conyers (D-Michigan), John Lewis (D-Georgia), Pete
Stark (D-California) and Neil Abercrombie (D-Hawaii).
My Gosh! Look at all those Republicans. Are all Republican schemes
perpetrated by Democrats? The hate and lies continue:
"George Bush needs the draft and George Bush wants the draft. George
Bush will tell us the draft is necessary for us to maintain our
national security. On the surface most people would be inclined to
believe him, too."
A simple news search on your portal of choice, or even the George W.
Bush website, yields no such substance to that claim. Beck placated
himself by reminding his readers of the falsehood that President Bush
avoided the draft:
"George Bush, like my nephew Steven, was a son of privilege. He saw
no reason to 'squander' his life so he didn't. Instead his father
used certain political favors and had George quietly moved over
150,000 applicants and accepted into the Texas Air National Guard.
Back then, aside from going to Canada, the Guard and the Reserves
were havens for draft dodgers. "Right now the same man who avoided
his draft along with officials in his administration that also
avoided their military obligation, are all quietly trying to get
these bills passed. Do you see a certain irony here?"
Beck obviously has motives to propagate the belief that President
Bush is quietly advocating the draft, when, in fact, there are seven
Democrats in Congress who are not shy to admit their desire to
reinstate the draft.
To further prove Beck's misinformation, I looked up some of the
things that the sponsors of the twin bills had to say about the man
Beck assumes is conspiring with them:
Senator Hollings has vehemently trashed Bush's Middle East policies.
Representative Rangel has called on Congress to impeach Bush's
Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and has rallied with President
Bush's opponent John Kerry.
Representative McDermott has insisted that Bush lied to gain favor
for the war in Iraq and that Saddam Hussein's capture was staged. He
has also marched with anti-war protesters while accusing Bush of
trying to be Emperor.
Representative Conyers hosted a meeting of anti-Bush advocates to
discuss impeaching the President.
Representative Lewis endorses Senator John Kerry's run for president
and says he "cannot trust the Bush Administration to do the right
thing."
Representative Stark, on the eve of the initial bombing of Baghdad,
called the plan to bomb Baghdad "an act of terrorism."
Representative Abercrombie, while at a Howard Dean rally, described
Bush as a "right-wing, Fascist, reactionary."
These don't sound like the words of Congressmen who are working at
the behest of the President–these are the words of men who despise
President Bush–they are Bush Haters. They despise him so much, that
they are the ones pushing legislation to reinstate a politically
damaging military draft in an attempt to purport the notion that
President Bush is the one who supports and needs this legislation.
Liberal opportunists like Bud Beck continuing to profess this liberal
propaganda to the like-minded, as well attempt to derail some right-
minded young republicans by wrongfully suggesting the way it is being
done.
If we need a draft-–which I don't think we do-–than it should be the
honor and privilege of any and all citizens to serve this great
nation. It is not something to shy away from, shun, or belittle. This
country gives its citizens all the opportunities and privileges the
world has to offer, and many risk their lives to achieve the same
freedom. Freedom is not free, and sometimes you need to risk your
life to protect it. After witnessing over 3,000 lives lost in a
single day on 9/11, how could anyone reject the defense of the United
States of America?
Mr. Beck, tell your nephew he has nothing to fear–the draft is not
some Republican scheme, and at this point in time, the President you
so strongly dislike has not supported the reinstatement of the draft.
Just because you hate Republicans doesn't give you the right to tell
vicious lies to propagate your hate. I invite you to tell your nephew
the following truths:
1) HR 163 & SB 89 were introduced and sponsored by Democrats–-not
Republicans. (You can then apologize to your nephew for scaring him
with your lies and bigotry.)
2) The draft is not a death sentence, it should be perceived as an
invitation to honor and dignity. To look at military service as
anything less is spitting on all men and women, past and present, who
have served our country.
3) We all owe our country a debt of gratitude for the rights and
privileges we've come to take for granted–and there is no better way
to repay that debt than to serve your country, especially when asked.
The military has produced some of the finest examples of Americans.
While conservatives have repeatedly debunked this, and many other
liberal "revisionisms," never have I heard of a liberal apologizing
for his or her fouled escapades. I hope Mr. Beck forwards the truth
to his young Republican nephew, and apologizes for his blatant hatred
of Republicans. I hope to hear that the apology and admission of
guilt will occur as soon as possible, not only to your nephew, but to
all your readers.
Both Bush and Kerry insist they will not reinstate the draft: Bush stays the course-Kerry flip flops.
The choice is simple: Vote for Bush.
Oh, let some other mother's son die just as long as my sons don't have to serve in the military.
I just don't get why the Bush people don't simply respond to this by saying that the ONLY people talking about re-instituting the draft are the Democrats!
Completely made up
When the time is right, we will tell the true story here ... that the Democrats are the ones who introduced these Bills and have just been using scare tactics on the nation's youth. Bush and the military want no part of a draft.
Bush is already taking over the youth vote as the truth is getting out.
Maybe Thursday's debate is when Bush will put it on the line.
But you cannot possibly think of anything more disgusting on the part of the Dems.
Total fabrication on the part of Dan Rather and CBS. The only people pushing a draft are Democrats There are two bills, one in the Senate and the other in the House, to revive the draft and are authored by DemoRats, Senator Fritz Hollings (DemoRat) and Representative Charles Rangel (another Rat).
This is another vicious attack by Dan Rather and the CBS News team. And Bob Schieffer of CBS wants to be the monitor in the upcoming Presidential Debates.
Both of these guys should be under oath answering questions about the failed journalistic coup d'etat that blew up in their faces. Don't forget. These guys used fabricated documents and conspired with the Democratic Party to damage a sitting President's chances of getting re-elected. These guys should be in jail.
This story is in Philadelphia and last Friday Kerry gave a speech at Temple U. and said that Bush has a secret plan to bring back the draft as soon as he is elected. It really is causing some problems out there. I just received an email from my congressman refuting the story going around the internet about the reps. wanting a draft.
Will the dims ever stop lying.
I just sent this to the link on CBSNews' website. I'm sure I won't hear anything back, but maybe it'll help someone else:
emailing CBS doesn't do a damn thing. They don't bother to read them.
FAX the President of CBS News, Andrew Heyward, at 212-975-1893.
Put a piece of paper in their hand. Electrons don't cut it.
A better story would have been how Kerry uses lies to inspire fear and trick people into voting for him. But you won't see THAT on CBS.
CBS would have us believe the memos were an honest mistake, Yet they continue to trash bush relentlessly with non-issues, while never showing even a hint of journalistic curiousity over Kerry's shady past. Shameless.
Nobody's watching.
"The war on terror will continue," says the president. "It's going to take a while and no, we don't need a draft."
But Beverly's not buying it. She's a Republican, but also a single-issue voter.
Would she vote for a Democrat? "Absolutely," she says. "I would vote for Howdy Doody if I thought it would keep my boys home and safe."
Vote for Kerry and that's just what you're doing.
I just sent an e-mail to my friends and told them to pass it on.
Really. All the Republicans need to do is show the bills that the Democrats wanted passed and say "The democrats want to bring back the draft....here's the legislature...Bush will stop it, Kerry will not".
About 6 months ago my brother-in-law got my mother all upset about the Republican plan to reinstate the draft. He is a low level operative for the Dems. When it happened I assured my mom that it was only a rumor with nothing to it; he does this all the time to scare her into thinking Republicans are the anti-Christ. When this resurfaced a few days ago it shook me because I knew this was a plan in the works from months back. It just angers me to see them manipulate an 80 year old lady.
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They are Republican politicos. That means they are too spineless to fight back.
Or maybe it means they are just too stupid.
Poor lefties. They sooooooooooooooo badly want Iraq to be Vietnam. Oh those were the days!! Burning draft cards, etc. etc. But, unfortunately, our armed forces are all volunteer. Aw shucks there goes a big issue. But, when has reality ever stopped the MSM. Oh no, they will go out there and try to create reality just like always have. Too bad they haven't gotten the memo on the fact that the pajama crew will be in their faces forever to stop this type of shyt.
Keep slashing your wrists Danny Boy, its ovah for you.
They act as if this something new.
To: Former Military Chick
These are the people who want to forcibly conscript your children between 18 and 26 years of age into the Army. See if you can detect what they have in common.
` Bills HR 163 and S 89 have been introduced in 2003, prior to the War in Iraq by Charles Rangel (Democrat-NY) and Senator Ernest Hollings (Democrat-SC) respectively.
CO-Sponsors of HR 163:
ABERCROMBIE, NEIL
` Bills HR 163 and S 89 have been introduced in 2003, prior to the War in Iraq by Charles Rangel (Democrat-NY) and Senator Ernest Hollings (Democrat-SC) respectively.
CO-Sponsors of HR 163:
ABERCROMBIE, NEIL ---------------------------Democrat, HI
BROWN, CORRINE ------------------------------Democrat, FL
CHRISTENSEN, DONNA ------------------------Democrat, VI
CLAY, WM. ---------------------------------------Democrat, MO
CONYERS, JOHN ---------------------------------Democrat, MI
CUMMINGS, ELIJAH -----------------------------Democrat, MD
HASTINGS, ALCIE --------------------------------Democrat, FL
JACKSON LEE, SHEILA --------------------------Democrat, TX
LEWIS, JOHN --------------------------------------Democrat, GA
MC DERMOTT, JIM --------------------------------Democrat, WA
MORAN, JAMES -----------------------------------Democrat, VA
NORTON, ELEANOR HOLMES -------------------Democrat, DC
STARK, FORTNEY ---------------------------------Democrat, CA
VALEZQUEZ, NYDIA -------------------------------Democrat, NY
10 posted on 09/26/2004 1:57:05 PM PDT by Rockpile
Agreed.
I am confident that he will do just that.
All Bush would have to do is ask for men to step forward to fight the fight. Americans would answer his call. And it would still be voluntary.
This has to be a Viacom thing. Kerry supporter Sumner Redstone has the "Draft is coming back if Bush is reelected" propaganda going on many of his outlets; CBS, MTV (via the "Rock the Vote" dweebs) and VH1.
I agree..This hoax can get way way way out og hand real fast ..Crap like this spreads like wildfire , especially on the internet.You've seen how fast other myths have spread (Tax on email , Gates giving away money if you forward this message etc etc) Bush needs to put the KABASH on this pronto and in no uncertain terms.H ecould pay for waiting and no addressing this .
Well, it's obvious to me that the listed dims can see the writing on the wall. They know that if kerry gets elected,to have any military, they would have to institute a draft.
People with more that 2 brain cells wont volunteer to be lead by that Flip-Flop lying traitor, who would no doubt farm them out to the UN.
I would vote for Howdy Doody if I thought it would keep my boys home and safe."
Guess that counts her out as anyone to even be talking to on a reasonable level.
A skunk never changes its stripe.
Fortunately, the only people left who watch CBS News are the same people who buy the 'Weekly World News' at the supermarket checkout aisle. Same credibility.
Weekly World News is awesomme though Loads of fun ..
Because it wouldn't quite be true. Senator Chuck Hagel (R-Nebraska ) mumbles occasionaly about it in his usual "think out-loud" embarass-himself mode.
This is just pre-Presidential election grand standing by the usual House and Senate a$$holes.
Their pitiful so called bill will never hit the floor of the House, not to mention Senate floor.
...but, hey, it will make some sort of excitement in the SeeBS halls, since the Blather fiasco! even though the "bill" don't mean diddle squat.
You see, this is another desperate attempt from the DEMs. to scare the proletariat's pants off and blame the "EVIL" Republicans" for the kingdom come (i.e. the "DRAFT").
Dumb Asses!
Very good idea
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You know that is an interesting question as to how having The War Kriminal get elected would affect recruitment and retention.
Still, we maintained a fairly sizable military under Clinton. I guess a lot of career troops would just try to ride out the storm.
Here is my letter to CBS: (I'm not expecting a reply)
If anybody at CBS had bothered to attend the Pentagon Briefings, I believe they would have noticed that Secretary Rumsfeld, and General Myers, have continued to say that new recruits are of such sufficient levels that no draft is anticipated. All units are meeting their recruitment goals.
This whole DRAFT thing was started by Rangel (D-NY) .. and if anybody needs more than one second to realize why it was Rangel who started this draft thing .. then they haven't been paying attention.
I believe there are 14 (?) other co-sponsors of the bill .. ALL OF THEM DEMOCRATS.
This draft thing is a democrat issue and CBS needs to reveal that information to the public. The democrats (and now CBS) are spewing lies and distortions trying to scare people into changing their votes.
ONE MORE TIME YOU'RE CAUGHT TRYING TO AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF AN ELECTION.
This is just so disgraceful!!
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