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American Taliban begs Bush to spring him
New York Daily News ^ | 9/29/04 | CORKY SIEMASZKO

Posted on 09/29/2004 1:24:27 AM PDT by kattracks

While the U.S. prepared to deport one of the captured American-born Taliban fighters, the other one asked President Bush yesterday to commute his prison sentence.

John Walker Lindh's lawyer complained that his client was punished more harshly than Yaser Esam Hamdi, who is being deported to Saudi Arabia after being held for three years as an enemy combatant.

"It's basically unfair to have John Lindh serve the remainder of his 20-year term," said Lindh's lawer, James Brosnahan. "It seems to us a matter of justice and, may I use the word, compassion."

But compassion for Lindh was in short supply at the White House, and a Justice Department spokesman noted there are key differences between his case and that of Hamdi.

"John Walker Lindh pleaded guilty in a court of law to supporting the Taliban," said spokesman Mark Corallo. "Mr. Hamdi never was in the criminal justice system."

Clemency expert Frank Zimring of the University of California, Berkeley said Brosnahan is wasting his breath.

"The morning line on the commutation of a sentence of this kind in a middle of a presidential election is one of those situations where London bookies would offer you millions of pounds for just a shilling or two," he said.

Lindh, who is from the San Francisco suburbs, and Hamdi, who was born in Baton Rouge, La., but reared in Saudi Arabia, were captured in Afghanistan in November 2001 and accused of fighting U.S. forces.

While Lindh pleaded guilty in 2002 to aiding the Taliban and admitted having met Osama Bin Laden, Hamdi renounced "terrorism and violent jihad" and said he had nothing to do with Bin Laden or Al Qaeda.

Under a deal worked out with the feds, Hamdi was not charged with any crime but had to renounce his U.S. citizenship and go back to Saudi Arabia.

A convert to Islam, Walker was denounced as a traitor and dubbed the "American Taliban" when he was captured. Brosnahan said he tried to negotiate the best deal he could for Lindh at a time when the U.S. was still reeling from the Sept. 11 attacks.

But now, Brosnahan said, "comparable conduct should be treated in comparable ways, in terms of sentencing."

Lindh's mother, Marilyn Walker, said she hoped "America can find it in her heart to forgive John."

"Despite what people may think, John Lindh took no action whatsoever against his native country," she said.

Time magazine reported that Lindh may try to knock some years off his sentence by testifying in upcoming Guantanamo Bay military trials against suspected Al Qaeda terrorists.

Originally published on September 29, 2004



TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: jihadjohnny

1 posted on 09/29/2004 1:24:27 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Should spend every single day of his sentence in prison. He's lucky he wasn't executed for treason. A young former marine, Johnny Spahn, was murdered by a bunch of Taliban prisoners and I am still not convinced this slime wasn't involved.


2 posted on 09/29/2004 1:29:42 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: kattracks

Lindh's mother, Marilyn Walker, said she hoped "America can find it in her heart to forgive John."

"Despite what people may think, John Lindh took no action whatsoever against his native country," she said.





HUH? Fighting AGAINST Americans is NOT taking action against his country? Hanging out with terrorists and letting them train him is NOT taking action against his own country?

Has she been sipping deadly Kool-Aid lately?

Her son should have been put to death as far as I am concerned. He's LUCKY to get 20 years.


3 posted on 09/29/2004 1:30:30 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: kattracks
"Despite what people may think, John Lindh took no action whatsoever against his native country"

CIA Johnny Michael Spann 32, of Winfield, Alabama. Spann was killed during a deadly four-day prison riot near Mazar-e Sharif, Afghanistan. Died on November 25, 2001.

4 posted on 09/29/2004 1:31:42 AM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: kattracks

I agree, It's unfair for him to spend the rest of his 20 years in a cell. Take him out and shoot him.


5 posted on 09/29/2004 1:37:00 AM PDT by Shellback Chuck (Olongapo hookers are more truthful than Kerry)
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To: nmh

I'll forgive Mr. Walker, after he has served his full sentence.


6 posted on 09/29/2004 1:44:11 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: kattracks
Lindh's mother, Marilyn Walker, said she hoped "America can find it in her heart to forgive John."

Don't hold your breath, lady.

7 posted on 09/29/2004 1:49:20 AM PDT by Ronin (When the fox gnaws....SMILE!)
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To: kattracks
I'd be willing to see him go free following a "liberal application" of Rachel Corrie therapy.

Heck, I'd ask at least as much for all his terrorist scum brothers.


8 posted on 09/29/2004 2:06:53 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: kattracks
American Taliban begs Bush to spring him

Good luck with that.
9 posted on 09/29/2004 2:12:30 AM PDT by jaykay (On the other hand, I have different fingers.)
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To: BradyLS
I can't. 20 years isn't enough for this traitor.
10 posted on 09/29/2004 2:15:02 AM PDT by codyjacksmom (OH!!! The Hugh-Vanities..... ummmm,uhhhhh, I mean Humanities, yeah thats what I meant.)
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If Lindh were given Yaser Esam Hamdi's punishment, stripped of his U.S. citizenship, deported to Saudi Arabia, I wonder how long it would be before he showed up at the U.S. embassy asking for his cell back.


11 posted on 09/29/2004 2:17:16 AM PDT by jaykay (On the other hand, I have different fingers.)
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To: kattracks

Johnny Micheal Spann
Captain, United States Marine Corps
Central Intelligence Agency Officer

I remember


12 posted on 09/29/2004 2:23:06 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: kattracks
"It's basically unfair to have John Lindh serve the remainder of his 20-year term," said Lindh's lawer, James Brosnahan. "It seems to us a matter of justice and, may I use the word, compassion."

Agreed. Saw his head off.

13 posted on 09/29/2004 2:31:31 AM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: kattracks

But now, Brosnahan said, "comparable conduct should be treated in comparable ways, in terms of sentencing."


Fair enough. Lindh renounces his citizenship, get's deported to Saudi Arabia, and if he ever set's foot back in the U.S. it's open season.


14 posted on 09/29/2004 2:36:46 AM PDT by Sapper26 (This post contains 90% sarcasm, 9% fabrication and 1% actual opinion.)
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To: Casloy

Damn right.


15 posted on 09/29/2004 2:38:06 AM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey
Liberals have to learn that there are consequences for actions. Personal responsibilities are not just for Republicans.

Shrillary's "it takes a village" gives people a built in excuse not to take responsibility. Someone does something wrong? Hey! It's society's fault. WRONG.

It's a parents job to teach children this, not the school systems job.

Lurch is getting a hard lesson in personal responsibility right now with the things he's said/done in his past that can't be denied or explained away.
16 posted on 09/29/2004 3:54:05 AM PDT by libs_kma (Hanoi Jane and John . She's nothing but a washed up old, prune faced hag...and Fonda is too.)
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To: kattracks

John Lindh, John Kerry. Both guilty of giving aid and comfort to the enemy.


17 posted on 09/29/2004 3:55:15 AM PDT by MadAnthony1776
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To: kattracks

Take a flying leap. You're lucky you weren't executed.


18 posted on 09/29/2004 3:59:15 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: kattracks
American Taliban begs Bush to spring him

What would Kerry do?

19 posted on 09/29/2004 3:59:36 AM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: kattracks
What would Lindh's sentence have been under his beloved Islamic law?

Oh, yeah -- an execution carried out by cruel and unusual means.

Since we're forgiving Americans but also taking into account Lindh's love for Islamic law, perhaps, we should just chop off his hands and feet and release him to his mother.

20 posted on 09/29/2004 4:09:55 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: BradyLS

"I'll forgive Mr. Walker, after he has served his full sentence."

Same here!

Liberals don't understand that actions have CONSEQUNECES!

It's comparing apples to oranges. The other guy was never charged. Walker was charged and pleaded GUILTY. The other guy was born here but raised over there. He was held differently and when challenged in courst DEPORTED to his homeland.


21 posted on 09/29/2004 4:12:06 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: kattracks
"Despite what people may think, John Lindh took no action whatsoever against his native country," she said.

She is parsing words here

Because the treason he committed was on foreign soil, it's doesn't count as real treason

As a parent, I feel for her, as a citizen, she should be glad she can visit him in prison rather than visit a headstone

22 posted on 09/29/2004 4:18:17 AM PDT by Popman (Mozilla Rules, I.E. Drools)
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To: kattracks

"It's basically unfair to have John Lindh serve the remainder of his 20-year term,"

yeah, right


23 posted on 09/29/2004 5:08:47 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: kattracks

No pardon; kill him.


24 posted on 09/29/2004 5:30:47 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: kattracks

If John Kerry is elected he will give him a Presidental Pardon and probably a medal for fighting U.S. troops and aiding in the murder of Mike Spann.

In my opinion the sorry bastard should have been hung by the neck until dead.


25 posted on 09/29/2004 5:35:44 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Addendum to post # 25.

If we do not get the National fortitude to properly deal with traitors and terrorists we will not surivive as a free Nation.


26 posted on 09/29/2004 5:41:00 AM PDT by sport
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To: Casloy

I fail to understand why this POS didn't meet his demise the day he was captured. The liberals will make a hero out of this terrorist traitor. I hope who ever captured him at least gave him an attitude adjustment. The klintoon years produced a PC prevailing environment in our military. The scum should have been shot. Casloy you are probably correct in your assumptioin of taliban john's role in the murder of the young marine. What better way of showing his loyalty to the taliban then killing a real American Marine. Bush/Cnheney 2004


27 posted on 09/29/2004 5:41:13 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic" "Xin Loi My Boy")
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To: BykrBayb

The lawyer's head as well for even taking the case to defend this POS.


28 posted on 09/29/2004 5:43:32 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic" "Xin Loi My Boy")
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To: Shellback Chuck

Reference your post # 5.

Seconded!

I should not have even read this thread.

I get mad everytime I even think how this murdering traitor got off scot free in my opinion.


29 posted on 09/29/2004 5:43:55 AM PDT by sport
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To: kattracks
"It's basically unfair to have John Lindh serve the remainder of his 20-year term," said Lindh's lawer, James Brosnahan. "It seems to us a matter of justice and, may I use the word, compassion."

At least the guy's got a sense of humor.

30 posted on 09/29/2004 5:56:19 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: kattracks
Just confirms what most people think about Muslim fanatics.

Muslim fanatics are bad asses when they're calling the shots.

When they are caught, they begin begging for mercy. Why? They figure we'll give it to them.

John Walker Lindh should have been fried.

It wasn't our choice.

So? He should rot in jail and then HELL.

31 posted on 09/29/2004 6:00:10 AM PDT by MoJo2001 (I never add to the confusion, I just enhance it.)
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To: kattracks

"Hey Taliban John, get back in your cell before I deport you to Yemen"
32 posted on 09/29/2004 6:04:23 AM PDT by NewLand (Pajama Patriot on patrol for Libs, Lies, and Liars!)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Would have been nice to at least see him tried for treason. The courts decided it was impossible to prove, but I still think we sometimes need to do what is right instead of what is expedient. We could have tried him on multiple charges so if the treason didn't stick we could get home for aiding and abetting, or something. It's the same mentality that didn't go after Jane Fonda when she went to Hanoi and sat on an anti-aircraft gun and thought it was funny.


33 posted on 09/29/2004 6:07:51 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: Sapper26

I like the idea of letting him testify against the Al-queda scum from gitmo, THEN deport him to Saudi or Afghanistan.


34 posted on 09/29/2004 6:13:33 AM PDT by johnb838 (John F'n Kerry: Communist Dupe? Or Do-gooder Idiot? You make the call.)
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To: nmh

He should be freed on the proviso that he does 10,000 hours reading the federalist papers and the US Constituion to high school students around the nation!


35 posted on 09/29/2004 6:15:48 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: Popman

Oh, I getcha... because he was picked up during an unlawful and immoral American invasion of the sovereign nation of Afghanistan, he is a VICTIM of American OPPRESSION!


36 posted on 09/29/2004 6:16:41 AM PDT by johnb838 (John F'n Kerry: Communist Dupe? Or Do-gooder Idiot? You make the call.)
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To: Caipirabob

"I'd be willing to see him go free following a "liberal application" of Rachel Corrie therapy.
Heck, I'd ask at least as much for all his terrorist scum brothers."

Yeah if he managed to survive it...he probably deserves to live!


37 posted on 09/29/2004 6:17:23 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: kattracks

Boo-freaking-Hoo.


38 posted on 09/29/2004 6:49:28 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: mdmathis6

Ah but you're assuming he can read and COMPREHEND!

I'm not so generous.


39 posted on 09/29/2004 9:39:02 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Casloy

I am afraid that you are right. Expedience(Real) for Hanoi Jane and taliban John to no longer be a part of America. Ie; dirt naps-r-them-inc.


40 posted on 09/29/2004 12:09:15 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic" "Xin Loi My Boy")
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