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Kerry Flip-Flops on Iraq AGAIN
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Posted on 09/29/2004 6:22:02 AM PDT by mrs9x

Kerry said this in an interview today posted on Yahoo:

"We should not have gone into Iraq knowing today what we know," Kerry told ABC. "Knowing there was no imminent threat to America, knowing there were no weapons of mass destruction, knowing there was no connection between 9/11 and Saddam Hussein, I would not have voted to support war."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: flipflops; kerry; kerryiraq
He said back in August he would have supported the war even if he knew that Saddam didn't have WMDs....yet ANOTHER flip-flop on Iraq.
1 posted on 09/29/2004 6:22:02 AM PDT by mrs9x
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To: mrs9x

Nope.. he said he would vote to "authorize the war" not actually invade.


2 posted on 09/29/2004 6:23:54 AM PDT by CitizenKahn (Strength through Community)
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To: mrs9x

This guy I think lives in alternative universe, where truth is whatever you think it is. He needs to see a shrink and get on some meds.


3 posted on 09/29/2004 6:24:09 AM PDT by mrs9x
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To: mrs9x

I can't keep track anymore... The Debate moderator needs to be Regis so that he can ask Kerry: "Is that your Final Answer"


4 posted on 09/29/2004 6:24:13 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Don't let John Kerry put a price on our childrens heads bear any burden pay any cost elect GW.)
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To: mrs9x

Yep, its hard to keep track of what he says from one day to the next. Who knows what John F*ckin' will say in the debate tomorrow night?


5 posted on 09/29/2004 6:24:14 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mrs9x

Wait, wait...is this the latest flip flop? Seriously, I must've missed a flop in there somewhere because I thought this was old news. Or is it a new flip flop?


6 posted on 09/29/2004 6:24:44 AM PDT by albie
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To: mrs9x

Well ain't 20/20 hindsight a wonderful thing! Knowing what we know now, we would have grounded all planes the morning of 9-11! What an idiotic statement!


7 posted on 09/29/2004 6:25:00 AM PDT by Arkie2
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To: mrs9x

A total flip-flop from August press conference when he said in substance 'knowing everything we know now, I still would have voted for the war.'

He MUST get hammered on this.

Why isn't Drudge linking to this yet? This is a huge potential story.

Spread the word, people.


8 posted on 09/29/2004 6:25:29 AM PDT by easy.nyc1
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To: mrs9x
"Knowing there was no imminent threat to America, knowing there were no weapons of mass destruction, knowing there was no connection between 9/11 and Saddam Hussein, I would not have voted to support war."

Kerry supported regime change in Iraq in 1998. Before there was a 9-11. Before there was any discussions of an imminent threat by WMD. Kerry hasn't kept his story straight for about a week. Besides, the case for war made by BOTH Kerry and Bush, was not about imminent threat of WMD, but about the future possibility this madman would get them.

9 posted on 09/29/2004 6:25:35 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: CitizenKahn

"Nope.. he said he would vote to "authorize the war" not actually invade."

An oft repeated lie by Kerry.


10 posted on 09/29/2004 6:25:42 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Rather lied, CBS News died.)
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To: CitizenKahn

The comment above, to me, reads as if he would not have authorized the use of force had he known that Saddam didn't have WMDs....which is contrary to his position earlier this year.


11 posted on 09/29/2004 6:25:43 AM PDT by mrs9x
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To: mrs9x

No, he would have given the president the authority.


12 posted on 09/29/2004 6:25:45 AM PDT by Huck ("Winners don't need to hijack airplanes. Winners have an air force." --P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: mrs9x

Wait until his next advisor says that's the wrong position to take. The laughs keep rolling in from the Kerry campaign.


13 posted on 09/29/2004 6:25:47 AM PDT by JiggyMac
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To: mrs9x

Why doesn't this surprise me? This man cannot be allowed to take up residence in the White House. He should be going to the Big House for his traitorous actions in the 1970’s.


14 posted on 09/29/2004 6:27:07 AM PDT by kddid (Find good in bad.)
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To: albie

This was in a Yahoo article posted today...I don't have the link to it, there is another thread on it here on FR but nobody noticed this little nugget in the piece.


15 posted on 09/29/2004 6:27:33 AM PDT by mrs9x
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To: CitizenKahn
Nope.. he said he would vote to "authorize the war" not actually invade.

And now he says he wouldn't have supported the war "knowing what we know now."

Decision by hindsight. Yeah. That's what we want.

A President who lets things happen, then says "Well, if I had known......"

16 posted on 09/29/2004 6:27:47 AM PDT by sinkspur ("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: CitizenKahn
What is the difference?

Should America be in the business of "authorizing" war, letting dictators continue to flout their agreements and deceive international observers and then do nothing?

If someone votes to authorize a war they are voting for war, period.

One does not "authorize" a war unless one feels that it is justified.

Senator Kerry wants to play semantics and pretend that he's tough on America's enemies while simultaneously pretending that he's against fighting them.

I hope he continues to make logic-chopping, idiotic and pedantic statements like this - because it reveals you and your buddies for the vacillating, blame-America-first scum you are.

17 posted on 09/29/2004 6:29:15 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: mrs9x

It actually is another flip-flop as well....Kerry said the other day that the vote was to "go to the UN." Now, he is conceding that the vote was about whether to go to war or not with Iraq. So we have multiple flip-flops.


18 posted on 09/29/2004 6:29:26 AM PDT by mrs9x
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To: mrs9x

I don't understand the stupidity of this liberal argument.

The FACT is we DID NOT KNOW THEN WHAT WE KNOW TODAY.

Kerry should change his name to dick.


19 posted on 09/29/2004 6:29:45 AM PDT by hushpad
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To: mrs9x
The entire GMA interview can be read here
20 posted on 09/29/2004 6:29:51 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (skerry's plan for oil independence - turn heinz tomatoes into oil????)
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To: mrs9x

Lighten up people, I have the right to change my mind!
Hey, the election is not for another 5 weeks or so.

Sincerely,

John F Heinz


21 posted on 09/29/2004 6:30:14 AM PDT by lyingisbetter ("Let's wait Kerry" or Let's go Bush")
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To: hushpad
The statement is also stupid in that it assumes that Bush KNEW that there were no WMDs....which is far from the truth. We had ample intelligence that he did have WMDs.

Kerry wants to look at it from an ex post perspective, but we have to look at it from an ex ante perspective
22 posted on 09/29/2004 6:31:49 AM PDT by mrs9x
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To: easy.nyc1

E-mail this to Drudge.


23 posted on 09/29/2004 6:32:04 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: mrs9x
Kerry has unenviable position of having to be both for the war and against it, because he needs both wings of the Democrat Party to have a chance to win in November. He has to keep the Dean wing from voting for Nader, yet he has to pretend that he's strong on defense and a tough Commander-in-Chief.

The only way to do that is to tell each audience what they want to hear that day.

24 posted on 09/29/2004 6:32:05 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: mrs9x

Kerry is a compulsive liar.


25 posted on 09/29/2004 6:34:40 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Rutles4Ever

I emailed this to drudge...he'll take a look at it.


26 posted on 09/29/2004 6:34:47 AM PDT by mrs9x
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To: mrs9x

And then there was this one: "You bet I might have!" He said it with great conviction too.


27 posted on 09/29/2004 6:35:10 AM PDT by hobson
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To: CitizenKahn
"We should not have gone into Iraq knowing today what we know," Kerry told ABC. "Knowing there was no imminent threat to America, knowing there were no weapons of mass destruction, knowing there was no connection between 9/11 and Saddam Hussein, I would not have voted to support war."

Nope.. he said he would vote to "authorize the war" not actually invade.

If you are correct, please point to the bill where Kerry "voted to support war," a bill he how claims he would have voted against.

28 posted on 09/29/2004 6:35:33 AM PDT by harrycarey
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To: mrs9x

I have been saying that for months, he is not quite right in the head.


29 posted on 09/29/2004 6:37:03 AM PDT by buffyt (You don't create terrorists by fighting back. You defeat the terrorists by fighting back. ~GWBush~)
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To: mrs9x

There will be a debate watching party at the Sugar Land office of Tom DeLay. He won't be there, he will be in DC. But there will be MANY conservatives there for the party. I should be fun. FreepMail me if you want location, time, etc.


30 posted on 09/29/2004 6:39:57 AM PDT by buffyt (You don't create terrorists by fighting back. You defeat the terrorists by fighting back. ~GWBush~)
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To: sinkspur

yes, in John Kerryland, American will be a land of "do-overs" where we'll have the option to go back and redo anything that didn't turn out just right. and in his fantasy life that will start with 11/2/04 when his first do-over attempt will be to reverse the election results. just watch.


31 posted on 09/29/2004 6:41:18 AM PDT by avital2
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To: CitizenKahn
Nope.. he said he would vote to "authorize the war" not actually invade.

That distinction makes no sense in the context of his most recent comments. He said "....I wouldn't have voted to support the war", which makes absolutely no sense under your spin because there was no specific vote to "support" the war. "Support" and "authorize" have to mean the same thing.

Alternatively, the idea that he supported making threats but not actually going to war is even worse. The U.S. cannot make threats that it does not intend to carry out, or it loses all credibility with respect to the use of force. If we tell Iran "do X or else", and they do X but we do nothing, every drop of credibility we gained on the seriousness of our threats evaporates.

You don't vote to threaten war if you don't support going to war.

32 posted on 09/29/2004 6:42:52 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: mrs9x

Kerry wants to look at it from an ex post perspective, but we have to look at it from an ex ante perspective<<<

As most reasonable people will do! WHich leaves all liberals out of the relm of reason.


33 posted on 09/29/2004 6:46:54 AM PDT by hushpad
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To: buffyt

We have a lot of rodents like that in australia, we call 'em kangaroos. Not many hopping around trying for president though. Why dont you get him tested for mental disease.


34 posted on 09/29/2004 6:49:32 AM PDT by Jackinoz
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To: mrs9x

"It actually is another flip-flop as well....Kerry said the other day that the vote was to "go to the UN." Now, he is conceding that the vote was about whether to go to war or not with Iraq. So we have multiple flip-flops."

This is a good point. Just when I thought Kerry couldn't get any worse, he issues a flip-flop INSIDE a flip-flop. What a douche.


35 posted on 09/29/2004 6:50:25 AM PDT by engineer506
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To: mrs9x
Boys & girls it's time for Mr. Peabody and his 'Wayback Machine'.


Mr. Peabody and his 'boy' John Kerry
"Ok, Johnny set the Wayback Machine for 1946"

"Gee Mr. Peabody we should not have gone into France knowing today what we know. Knowing there was no imminent threat to America, knowing there were no weapons of mass destruction, knowing there was no connection between Japan, 12/7 and Adolph Hitler, I would not have voted to support war."

We now return you to our regular programming.......

36 posted on 09/29/2004 6:50:29 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: XJarhead

NO. What he means is that he would only "authorize" war if he is sure we aren't going to war. If we definitely plan to go to war, then he won't authorize it. Am I right? I'm confused.


37 posted on 09/29/2004 6:50:58 AM PDT by Attillathehon
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To: XJarhead
Nope.. he said he would vote to "authorize the war" not actually invade.

I'm wondering if Citizen Kahn just might be a troll. Reasons: His semantic arguement is Dem spin 101; he signed up just 4 days ago; and his tag line," Strength through Community" sounds like it came right out of the commie slogan book.

38 posted on 09/29/2004 6:53:00 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Arkie2

"Well ain't 20/20 hindsight a wonderful thing!"

Anyone with their head in their @$$ has perfect hindsight!


39 posted on 09/29/2004 6:57:23 AM PDT by ArmedNReady (Islam, a cancer on humanity that must be given radiation treatment.)
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To: tomnbeverly

That's funny


40 posted on 09/29/2004 7:05:24 AM PDT by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: ShandaLear
"Nope.. he said he would vote to "authorize the war" not actually invade."

True. However, think for just a minute how asinine that sounds? "I would authorize a war......but not a war"????? This is classic liberal doublespeak and when taken to task in front of the Joe six pack he's not drinking it.
41 posted on 09/29/2004 7:11:18 AM PDT by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: CitizenKahn

I feel you would be more at home with the DUmmies, judging by this and other posts made by you.


42 posted on 09/29/2004 7:14:58 AM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: Red Boots

Bingo! I've been tracking some of the posts made by this unknown.

They smell.


43 posted on 09/29/2004 7:17:44 AM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: Always Right

to Always Right but not always complete).

Kerry voted against the first Gulf War in the first place. That is why he had no leg to stand on with his later position. Were it up to Kerry, there would have been no Desert Storm.


44 posted on 09/29/2004 8:47:26 PM PDT by planekT
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To: Jackinoz

welcome to FreeRepublic----you have other 'rodents' beside the 'roos---the ones that stole your firearms not too long ago come to my mind---kerry will be toast shortly


45 posted on 09/29/2004 8:54:45 PM PDT by cmotormac44
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