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1 posted on 09/29/2004 1:56:00 PM PDT by pookie18
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To: pookie18

Former Congressman Dornan made this accusation on Hannity or Hardball in late August.


2 posted on 09/29/2004 1:57:15 PM PDT by carrier-aviator
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To: pookie18; All

Could this be the October Surprise that Swift Vets have in mind? OMG this would Kill Kerry!


3 posted on 09/29/2004 1:57:18 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: pookie18

nothing on google


4 posted on 09/29/2004 1:57:54 PM PDT by rface (Ashland, Missouri - monthly donor /bad speller - I am a FReeper not a BLOGGER)
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To: pookie18

SHHHHH!!! It's the October Surprise!


5 posted on 09/29/2004 1:58:20 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: pookie18

If this is true, this election is over.


6 posted on 09/29/2004 1:58:38 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: pookie18

I doubt this is true.


8 posted on 09/29/2004 1:58:46 PM PDT by RKB-AFG (4 more 4 W in 04)
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To: pookie18

I'm thinking this is it. This would be the A bomb baby.


9 posted on 09/29/2004 1:59:00 PM PDT by mlbford2 ("What self respecting man wears Spandex?" -- Zell Miller)
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To: pookie18
October Surprise or....

The piss de resistance.

15 posted on 09/29/2004 2:01:49 PM PDT by N. Theknow (N. Theknow - All-American 1st Pajama Expeditionary Force - Semper FReep)
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To: pookie18

Very suspicious of this, but Novak a few weeks ago did say he knew of something explosive coming that would blow Kerry out of the water.


19 posted on 09/29/2004 2:03:06 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Darth Reagan

ping


20 posted on 09/29/2004 2:03:14 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: pookie18

Carvell, Lockhart and Begalla are there to smooth the transition for Hillary when JF'nK is forced out and she comes to the rescue.


21 posted on 09/29/2004 2:04:04 PM PDT by billb
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To: pookie18

THIS IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT:
Who was that black Navy vet FReeper who called Sean?
And why did Sean dis FR thereupon?
And why does Sean like Cal so much?
Isn't he married?


23 posted on 09/29/2004 2:04:49 PM PDT by alcuin (getridofthateffinlooselipssinkshipsgesture)
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To: pookie18

I heard this was supposed to come out about a month ago (right after the Republican convention) by the swifties or another similar group. They may be saving this as an October surprise, and saving up funds for a major media blitz.


24 posted on 09/29/2004 2:04:59 PM PDT by mnehring (cBS- Fourth Column, Fifth Estate, Disinformers)
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To: pookie18

I lived in Mass until last year
i have heard about Kerry being present during a flag burning ceremony in Boston Common
i have no other evidence to support this but i have heard of it before


25 posted on 09/29/2004 2:05:19 PM PDT by DM1
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To: pookie18

I'm not so sure about this one. might want to be careful.


26 posted on 09/29/2004 2:06:07 PM PDT by koolaidsmile
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To: pookie18

John Kerry "The Urinator"


28 posted on 09/29/2004 2:07:22 PM PDT by sierrahome
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To: pookie18
Hannity

vanity

insanity

32 posted on 09/29/2004 2:08:30 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: pookie18; Admin Moderator

Sorry Pookies, JerseyRepubicanBikerChick beat you to it: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1230740/posts


34 posted on 09/29/2004 2:08:47 PM PDT by Bush_Democrat (Now EX-Democrat!)
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To: pookie18

Unlikely. Boston Brahmins don't pee in public.


37 posted on 09/29/2004 2:09:38 PM PDT by Grut
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To: pookie18

Howie Carr stated that he has searched all data banks of the Lowell (MA) Sun and Boston Herald and could not find any photos. He did acknowledge that this is an old rumor, however, but as for now just a rumor.
He also disclosed the startup of a new 527: Windsurfing Electricians for Truth to counter Kerry's GMA claim that he surfs with regular blue collar guys.


41 posted on 09/29/2004 2:14:03 PM PDT by Shqipo (The gloves are on and the corners are empty.)
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To: pookie18

After his Senate testimony in Washington, he was featured on "60 Minutes," shared top billing with John Lennon at a peace rally in New York and was offered his own talk show by television executives who wanted to make him a voice for the '60s generation. (He turned the idea down as "too fluffy.")

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Page 348: During the "winter soldier investigation" in Detroit, Kerry "read Jonathan Schell's The Village of Ben Suc (1967), a brutal account of how a Vietnamese community was destroyed by U.S. armed forces."

Page 424: After losing a congressional race in '72, "Kerry read novels and built model airplanes and ships to distract himself from thinking about the immediate future. He also painted a little."


Page 54: Julia Thorne, who became Kerry's first wife, nicknamed him "Pterodactyl" at Yale "because his long face made him look like a dinosaur."

Page 166: Kerry's radio-call sign in Vietnam was "Rock Jaw."

Page 302: Bill Rood, another officer, called Kerry "Ichabod," as in Crane.


OK, so he was a little pompous:

Page 31: "He was only eighteen years old and he knew just about everything about politics, particularly civil rights," says Danny Barbiero, a fellow St. Paul's student and a lifelong Kerry friend. "That annoyed some people, no doubt about it."

Page 244: Before a particularly dangerous raid in Vietnam, Kerry in his journal "noted for posterity that in fact he felt optimistic, in the same sense that a young Winston Churchill did when he fought with Britain's Malakand Field Force in what is now northern Pakistan: 'Bullets—to a philosopher, my dear Mama—are not worth considering. Besides, I am so conceited I do not believe the gods would create so potent a being as myself for so prosaic an ending.' "

Or even aloof:

Page 299-300: Larry Thurlow, a Swift boat captain from Garden City, Kan.: "John was sharp as a tack. … But he came from a background most of us couldn't understand. … And he was both distant and foolhardy."

Page 157: James Wasser, one of the men on Kerry's boat, concedes: "Some people were suspicious of him because he would talk to himself into a tape recorder."


44 posted on 09/29/2004 2:14:27 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: pookie18

Hannity & Colmes: Bob Dornan shows US flag that Kerry's group burned while they flew 300 VC flags
self | Aug 27, 2004

Kerry's group urinated on those flags and burned an American flag. Dornan says he followed and filmed Kerry for 8 hours that day. Dornan recovered several Communist flags and the burned American flag left behind by Kerry's gang.


51 posted on 09/29/2004 2:17:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: pookie18

A caller asked Howie Carr about this 15 minutes ago and Howie said he had heard this before, but says he has never been able to substantiate it.


57 posted on 09/29/2004 2:19:44 PM PDT by sox_the_cat
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To: pookie18

The sad thing is, even if true, his base would still support him....


59 posted on 09/29/2004 2:20:01 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: pookie18

It will be interesting to see if this is true. But true or not, there are a significant number of people on the left who would view what these people are accused of doing as a positive thing.


60 posted on 09/29/2004 2:21:00 PM PDT by dha (The safest place to be is within the will of God.)
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To: pookie18

61 posted on 09/29/2004 2:21:12 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: pookie18

Spin-He was just trying to put out the fire.


62 posted on 09/29/2004 2:21:52 PM PDT by Capt. Jake (Tarheels against Edwards)
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To: pookie18

I am so sick of Fox's John Gibson has and E.D hill they have really been siding with Kerry!


68 posted on 09/29/2004 2:26:53 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: pookie18

O'Neil denying it now on Hannity.


69 posted on 09/29/2004 2:28:10 PM PDT by sdkhaki
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To: pookie18

This caller is on Hannity right now..IN DALLAS.
We are on an hour delay.


Sean told Sweet Baby James to call Oneil.

He won't go on what this caller is saying along. Can't blame him.

If this is an october surprise....it would be the biggest in political history.

SO....I think its more a hoax than anything.

BUT I WILL KEEP AN OPEN MIND


71 posted on 09/29/2004 2:28:49 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (all)
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ping


73 posted on 09/29/2004 2:29:10 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: pookie18
He said that Kerry lost his first congressional race when networks aired a film of Kerry (in uniform) burning & urinating on an American flag.

I don't know about any video, but his anti-gun voting record over the past 20 years is tantamount to pissing on the Constitution, IMNSHO.

81 posted on 09/29/2004 2:37:48 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: pookie18

Lemme guess, this is Hillary's October surprise and she has the only copy?


85 posted on 09/29/2004 2:40:26 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: pookie18

BUMP, hoping somebody can track down this one.


86 posted on 09/29/2004 2:40:53 PM PDT by kitkat ( FR: HOME OF THE PAJAMA PEOPLE)
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To: pookie18; Congressman Billybob

I doubt anyone has such footage, but wouldn't it be an October Delight to have a film of Kerry going pee-pee on Old Glory? Then perhaps he could finish out his pathetic campaign in shame, suffer a landslide victory by Bush, then take his own life in the most humiliating way imaginable.

Ask me how I really feel about John Kerry...


87 posted on 09/29/2004 2:41:24 PM PDT by paulklenk (Blue Fairy, please make Dan Rather a real boy!)
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To: pookie18

I heard the man, too. Sean was skeptical. But maybe it's out there. Most likely, if real, it's been destroyed.

Sean has a call in to John O'Neill to find out more.


95 posted on 09/29/2004 2:55:47 PM PDT by valleygal
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Kerry may have done this, but it isn't why he lost his first Congressional race. His first race was in 1970, and he dropped out because the caucus he was trying to gain the support of had already thrown its support to Robert Drinan; the caucus leader, Jerome Grossman, cut a deal with Kerry that if Kerry dropped out and supported Drinan, Grossman would support Kerry's political career in return, and Kerry agreed. The caller may have been thinking of Kerry's second Congressional run in 1972, perhaps.


98 posted on 09/29/2004 2:59:03 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: pookie18
If this is out there the Clinton's have it and would use it. Hillary has already said something about an October surprise. President Bush will be attacked after reelection and I hope attackers go by way of Rather.
104 posted on 09/29/2004 3:15:07 PM PDT by slomotion
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FoxFan ping! (Hannity's radio show)

pookie18's post: A man called Sean Hannity after 4 PM ET today. Said he lived in Naples, FL, but originally lived in MA. He said that Kerry lost his first congressional race when networks aired a film of Kerry (in uniform) burning & urinating on an American flag. Sean was skeptical. The guy suggested checking with possibly John O'Neill or Howie Carr in MA. Anyone ever hear about anything like this?

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

107 posted on 09/29/2004 3:18:18 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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pookie18's post: A man called Sean Hannity after 4 PM ET today. Said he lived in Naples, FL, but originally lived in MA. He said that Kerry lost his first congressional race when networks aired a film of Kerry (in uniform) burning & urinating on an American flag. Sean was skeptical. The guy suggested checking with possibly John O'Neill or Howie Carr in MA. Anyone ever hear about anything like this?

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

108 posted on 09/29/2004 3:19:24 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: pookie18

I heard the caller but never heard of this incident.


112 posted on 09/29/2004 3:20:36 PM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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To: pookie18

Sounds like he was pissed off...what else is new? Jake


113 posted on 09/29/2004 3:23:04 PM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: pookie18

This has to be wrong. If there was video of Kerry urinating on the flag, it would have been discovered long ago and used against him.


120 posted on 09/29/2004 3:58:41 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: pookie18

I heard that caller on Sean Hannity's radio show and he said there is a video of Kerry burning and urinating on the American flag during protest days. Hannity seemed to dismiss that and this video doesn't exist. Caller was quite adamant that it did or may still exist. Is there anyone out there that might know where to get the video, if it does exist. My opinion, which I respect, is that a video probably does exist and Kerry's actions in the video would be in keeping with his real sentiment toward the United States of America.


122 posted on 09/29/2004 4:06:29 PM PDT by Bushbacker1
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To: pookie18

Sydney Shamberg may hold the key to the October Surprise.


125 posted on 09/29/2004 4:21:34 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: pookie18

After reading your post, I went to the Swift Vets site and there is a posting about this. The mod deleted it and posted a forwarding link:

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11190

So far, nothing that says this could be true.


135 posted on 09/29/2004 4:44:18 PM PDT by PilloryHillary (KERRY LIES http://www.johnfkerrysucks.com)
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I vaguely recall hearing (or reading) that there is film footage of a flag-burning that shows kerry in the crowd. This may be what the footage is. I doubt there is footage of him actually burning the flag, and I really doubt there is footage of him peeing on it.


138 posted on 09/29/2004 5:16:09 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: pookie18

I think the caller is a Kerry stooge, trying to flush out what the Swiftees etc have on Kerry.


149 posted on 09/29/2004 9:09:03 PM PDT by igoramus987
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