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Kerry losing ground as talk turns to Iraq (now a TIE in MI)
Newspaper (The Freep) | 09/30/04 | Kieri

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:49:13 AM PDT by Kieri

The Detroit Free Press has a new poll showing that Kerry and Bush are in a statistical tie! They polled 840 voters and Kerry currently leads 48/46 among registered voters, but BUSH leads 50/48 among LIKELY voters. Kerry has lost a 4 to 6 point lead here. The margin of error is 3.5 percent.

The article adds that they're not sure why Kerry is in decline, but state voters support the action in Iraq 48/42. There's a great comment by someone who never voted for anyone other than a Democrat since JFK (from Ann Arbor, of all places!!)

The article can be found here: http://www.freep.com/news/politics/fppoll30e_20040930.htm


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: kerry; kerryiraq; napalminthemorning; wot
Time to turn the card over from blue to yellow!
1 posted on 09/30/2004 5:49:14 AM PDT by Kieri
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To: Kieri

Are they counting the illegal votes? I'm still quite worried about Demorat fraud in states like MI.


2 posted on 09/30/2004 5:51:22 AM PDT by Blogger (The only difference between Terry McAuliffe and Michael Moore is about 300 pounds)
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To: Kieri

Landslide. After tonight - after people get a taste of Kerry's condescending, "f-you, I'm married to a European" attitude, versus W's pedestrian delivery, it will be all over.


3 posted on 09/30/2004 5:52:14 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: wmichgrad

Maybe we should volunteer to be poll watchers!


4 posted on 09/30/2004 5:54:00 AM PDT by CSM ("Don't be economic girlie men!" - Governator, August 31, 2004, RNC)
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To: Rutles4Ever

She's not Euro-trash, she's African!.....


5 posted on 09/30/2004 5:54:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you shoot from the hip enough times, eventually you'll shoot yourself in the a$$......)
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To: Kieri

Kerry's gotta start firing up his base. Their enthusium wanes. Look for Kerry to come out firing at the President tonight. If he doesn't, he's done for!


6 posted on 09/30/2004 5:55:00 AM PDT by The Great Yazoo (JFK: He's a real nowhere man, Sitting in his nowhereland, Making all his nowhere plans For nobody)
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To: Kieri

The Tiger fans are offended by the orange, make no mistake about it.


7 posted on 09/30/2004 5:58:47 AM PDT by practicalmom
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To: Kieri
"I've never voted for anyone other than a Democrat since JFK, but I'm going to vote for my first Republican president," said Cichanski, 65, a retired geology professor who said he did some soul-searching to switch party allegiance. "I think the Democrats couldn't have picked a more horrible candidate than John Kerry. I think he's a fraud, particularly with the whole business of terrorists and Iraq.

"He scares the hell out of me. I don't think he wants to win."

LOL!!!

8 posted on 09/30/2004 5:58:56 AM PDT by harrycarey
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To: The Great Yazoo
If Kerry comes out firing...he's toast...if he don't...he's toast.

Yahooo for MI voters...comin around. Think total domination on Nov 2nd. Hell, I would push for effectively an electoral sweep.

9 posted on 09/30/2004 5:59:41 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals are the real Mind-Numbed Robots - No Brains, No Guts, No Character...Just hate)
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To: Kieri
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Cheers!
10 posted on 09/30/2004 6:00:48 AM PDT by SmellsLikeOwen
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To: Blogger
Are they counting the illegal votes? I'm still quite worried about Demorat fraud in states like MI.

it's really tough for the polling groups to get the dead to answer their phones. /sarcasm
11 posted on 09/30/2004 6:01:44 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: The Great Yazoo

Like Dee Dee Myers says: Kerry is in deep doo-doo. I agree that he is going to come out swinging tonight but don't expect our President to take it lying down. He is going to slamm Kerry with one liners that will finally take the wind out of his windsurfer. Michigan is still considered Kerry territory but now the Boston Windsurfer will need to spend money defending New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota, and Maryland.


12 posted on 09/30/2004 6:01:56 AM PDT by Jose Roberto
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To: Kieri
Sue Huff, 56, a school social worker in Dearborn, said she's not happy with Bush's handling of the Iraq war. She said she's supporting Kerry.

But, she said, "I'm not sure that Kerry's going to do much better. But I have to vote for somebody, and I'm not voting for" Ralph "Nader."

13 posted on 09/30/2004 6:01:57 AM PDT by harrycarey
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To: Red Badger

She's descended from Portuguese Colonialists stock. If they win, we'll be the new servants for the Kerrys. Remember the crack about letting the people in Florida run around naked when people sent supplies for the victims of the hurricane? She cannot help but talk down to people.


14 posted on 09/30/2004 6:02:09 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: Blogger
The fraud story is starting to get some traction here in MI. The Lansing State Journal reported on it yesterday and now the Freep today. Here's an excerpt from the Freep:

LANSING, Mich. (AP) -- With four business days to go until Monday's voter registration deadline, a record number of Michigan residents have signed up to vote on Nov. 2, Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land said Wednesday.

But among the many legitimate registration forms are hundreds, if not thousands, that appear to be fraudulent. Land said advocacy groups for the first time are hiring people to register voters, encouraging some to fill in the forms for people who haven't registered so they can make more money.

Eaton County Clerk Fran Fuller said one registration form was filled out for a man who was dead. That form and others looked like they'd been filled in by someone taking names out of a Lansing phone book, she said. She has turned the information over to the county prosecutor, who's investigating.

"The signatures and the printing of the names were what first tipped off my staff that something wasn't right," said Fuller, who estimates her office has received about 100 fraudulent forms. "The signatures were very similar. A lot of them had no driver's license number, which was very suspicious."

Land said nearly 7 million Michigan residents have registered to vote so far, already beating the record set in 2000, when 6,859,332 people registered. The draw this year, as in 2000, is a close and contentious presidential race that has political parties and advocacy groups signing up new voters to try and help their candidates.

Many of those being paid to register voters are college students, which is why so many of the suspicious registrations are turning up in Wayne County, home of Wayne State University; Washtenaw County, home of the University of Michigan; and Ingham County, home of Michigan State University, said state Elections Division director Chris Thomas.

Kent County and Kalamazoo County, which also have state universities within their borders, are seeing similar problems, he added. Some clerks in the affected counties have their staffs working overtime to sort through suspicious-looking registrations, or have had to hire extra help.

Thomas said the groups submitting the most questionable registrations have been the Public Interest Research Group in Michigan, or PIRGIM, and Project Vote. Fuller said all of the suspicious registrations her Eaton County office received were turned in by PIRGIM, a nonpartisan advocacy group based in Ann Arbor..."

http://www.freep.com/news/statewire/sw104905_20040929.htm

15 posted on 09/30/2004 6:02:27 AM PDT by Kieri (Farscape Returns on Sunday, October 17th at 9PM ET!)
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To: The Great Yazoo

If he answers every question with a Bush bash, or the "with my plan" that you never hear the details of, he is toast.


16 posted on 09/30/2004 6:03:53 AM PDT by visualops
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To: CSM
Maybe we should volunteer to be poll watchers!

This is a good idea but how can we watch every cemetary in Michigan?

17 posted on 09/30/2004 6:13:24 AM PDT by Larry381 (The Democratic Party-Celebrating 60 years of aid and comfort to America's enemies)
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To: elhombrelibre

When did she say THAT?????? I'm in the IVAN destruction zone and we had no power for a week (many STILL don't!) If she said that about us, it should be PLAYED OVER AND OVER AND OVER on the radio and TV commercials in FLORIDA! Kerry and his Euro-Bitch WOULD BE LYNCHED!!!!!!!


18 posted on 09/30/2004 6:15:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you shoot from the hip enough times, eventually you'll shoot yourself in the a$$......)
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To: Kieri
how is Grand l'Orange holding onto the robot vote?

Leela: That's not true. The first robot president won by exactly one vote.

Bender: Ah, yes! John Quincy Adding Machine. He struck a chord with the voters when he pledged not to go on a killing spree.

Professor: But, like most politicians he promised more than he could deliver.

19 posted on 09/30/2004 6:17:53 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Bender : This is the worst kind of discrimination. The kind against me.)
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To: Red Badger

She said it a few days ago. I am surprised you didn't hear about the remark in Florida. It was quite amusing as if the option was clothes or nothing else.


20 posted on 09/30/2004 6:19:49 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: Kieri

I don't understand something. If they register someone to vote that is fraudulent, then how does that person vote? Just registering doesn't get them to a polling place.


21 posted on 09/30/2004 6:20:44 AM PDT by queenkathy
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To: harrycarey

"I've never voted for anyone other than a Democrat since JFK, but I'm going to vote for my first Republican president," said Cichanski, 65, a retired geology professor who said he did some soul-searching to switch party allegiance. "I think the Democrats couldn't have picked a more horrible candidate than John Kerry. I think he's a fraud, particularly with the whole business of terrorists and Iraq.

"He scares the hell out of me. I don't think he wants to win."

My dad, a southeastern Oklahoma, conservative democrat who I don't think has ever voted for a Republican, has said several of the same things about Kerry. "Why in the thunder would the DNC run Kerry? With all of them in places of power, why did they pick a pacifist to run in a war year?"

This was from the same man who told me (when I was 8) that my liking Reagan even though we were poor was akin to a chicken liking Col. Sanders.

It's a bad sign when those who always vote democrat announce they won't be voting democrat this year.

Well, bad for Kerry. Good for our side.


22 posted on 09/30/2004 6:21:48 AM PDT by Frank L
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To: Dan from Michigan

Joyous ping a ling ding, Dan!


23 posted on 09/30/2004 6:23:23 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Kieri

Damn and here I thought the Slickster from his sick bed on the eve of his operation told Kerry to emphasize the economy

Poor Bubba his advice is neglected


24 posted on 09/30/2004 6:23:54 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Red Badger

She ended it by saying "at least the kids can run around naked." The other day she said of the idea of losing Arizona in the election, "Who cares? One state is not the whole state." Whatever that means. Sean was playing that one a lot. It was a hoot!


25 posted on 09/30/2004 6:26:58 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre
Teresa Heinz-Kerry's remark was about letting the people in HAITI do without clothes (the point being that it is so far away and so remote that they needed drinking water and food and medicine first, before clothes, in the limited space available on ships and planes or whatever). One valid point was not that it was inaccurate or wierd but that it resonates like the alleged remark by Marie Antoinette (which was probably invented by her political enemies, though), "Let them eat cake". Since she has personal wealth between $1,000,000,000 and $3,000,000,000 that will resonate very well with the average middle class voter. I also think something could be done with it in the African-American community if it were taken as an insult to the African-heritage people in Haiti.

With regard to the question of Kerry being ahead among all REGISTERED voters but behind among LIKELY voters, we need to act with the sure knowledge that this presidential election will be very high turnout (legal or illegal) so that basing any hope at all on "likely" voters is irrelevant. Millions of "unlikely" voters are going to vote legally, and millions of "even more unlikely" voters are going to vote illegally. SO we need to act scared and keep working until the polls close 11/2.

26 posted on 09/30/2004 6:32:59 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: wildandcrazyrussian

My mistake. I thought she was talking about Florida. I'm should have known she'd not talk the same about them as the Haitians, who probably reminder her of her countrymen back in Mozambique.


27 posted on 09/30/2004 6:37:45 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

Many people here in Florida are living in the 19th century without power, telephone, or any newsources. If what you say is true, then why haven't the Florida Republicans been outraged over this statement?


28 posted on 09/30/2004 6:37:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you shoot from the hip enough times, eventually you'll shoot yourself in the a$$......)
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To: Red Badger

See post above my last. I guess I was wrong; it was Haiti she was talking about. Girl's got class though.


29 posted on 09/30/2004 6:38:51 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

To say this even of the poor Hatians is class-less.....breeding shows.....it always does........


30 posted on 09/30/2004 6:41:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you shoot from the hip enough times, eventually you'll shoot yourself in the a$$......)
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To: Kieri

too bad Bubba can't swoop in and pump up the base in the slums and UAW-ghettos with his crackling jeans of exitement...


31 posted on 09/30/2004 6:44:01 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Jose Roberto
Like Dee Dee Myers says: Kerry is in deep doo-doo.

While I'm 99.9% sure Bush will emerge victorious on Election Day, that causes me to be a bit worried--after all, when you've hit bottom, only 2 things can happen. Either you stay there, which I hope is the case with Kerry, or things can only improve for him for the better. Whereas with Bush, when you're flying high like he is now, the tough part is staying there.

32 posted on 09/30/2004 6:44:40 AM PDT by gop_gene
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To: Red Badger

She stopped by a Caribbean-American neighborhood in Brooklyn where the people had quickly put together a center where people could drop off donations to send to their native land. This was for relief in one of the islands. Teresa asked why they were sending clothing when they should be more concerned about sending water. Since she deemed water distribution a primary priority (which technically was correct, but she was not talking to the folk heading the relief effort; she was talking to some citizens who were sending what they could spare from their own belongings), she added that the people, particularly the children, could go naked for a while as they awaited clothing contributions. A total put-down to the effort these people were organizing.


33 posted on 09/30/2004 6:45:54 AM PDT by twigs
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To: queenkathy
If they register someone to vote that is fraudulent, then how does that person vote? Just registering doesn't get them to a polling place

Absentee voting or having someone show up knowing the person's address. Provisional ballots make it a lot easier.

34 posted on 09/30/2004 6:49:08 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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To: twigs

A Marie Antoinette moment......


35 posted on 09/30/2004 6:49:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you shoot from the hip enough times, eventually you'll shoot yourself in the a$$......)
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To: Kieri

A FREE PRESS Poll? I'm shocked.


36 posted on 09/30/2004 6:57:28 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A gun owner voting for John Kerry is like a chicken voting for Col. Saunders. (bye bye .30-30))
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To: Kieri

You know when the AP doesnt say what party a group is associated with .... ITS DEMOCRAT


37 posted on 09/30/2004 6:59:32 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: Kieri

BTTT.

Finally, a poll with some good momentum for W in MI.

At the rate things are going, what states won't be up for grabs come election day besides MA, RI, and that wasteland where they elect crackheads back to the city council -- DC?


38 posted on 09/30/2004 7:07:49 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: Kieri
Michigan is definitely in play. Both sides are spending lots of money on TV ads in the Detroit area.
39 posted on 09/30/2004 7:09:42 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (.)
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