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Is Anyone Ever Prepared To Kill?
Christian Science Monitor ^ | September 29, 2004 | Unknown

Posted on 09/30/2004 1:03:55 PM PDT by PeteePie

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...an interesting aspect to the whole war thing.
1 posted on 09/30/2004 1:03:56 PM PDT by PeteePie
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It is interesting and, I am not sure our country has ever focused on 'healing' after a war, either for the soldiers or the civilians and families. What a concept.


2 posted on 09/30/2004 1:05:46 PM PDT by austinaero
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These guys are prepared.


3 posted on 09/30/2004 1:06:17 PM PDT by Xphantasos (Ceterum censeo Al-Quaedam delenda est.)
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Is Anyone Ever Prepared To Kill?

"I'll Take 'Vince Foster's Last Innocent, Rhetorical Question To Hillary Clinton' for $500, Alex...!" :)

4 posted on 09/30/2004 1:07:08 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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War is Hell. Losing a war is worse.


5 posted on 09/30/2004 1:07:49 PM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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Mess with my family and somebody will find or not.


6 posted on 09/30/2004 1:08:30 PM PDT by funkywbr
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Me thinks they don't get dental.


7 posted on 09/30/2004 1:09:15 PM PDT by PeteePie
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I've seen this Sheehan-Miles character on TV. Google his name and see what you come up with.


8 posted on 09/30/2004 1:10:45 PM PDT by IGOTMINE (The internet is the most empowering tool invented since Sam Colt created the revolver.)
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Healing from seeing your fellow citizens jumping from the 40th floor of a building is also difficult.

I think the article has a slant. They seem pre-occupied with this one aspect of war as if it is somehow unavoidable. I am not sure it is. Its like the feeling a cop goes through after a righteous shooting.. still feels guilty. Nobody wants to take another human life.. unless they are the sick twisted types we are having to fight.

We should treat these guys. Give them access to counseling. Fund faith-based treatment centers. Because it is through faith that he can actually be healed.


9 posted on 09/30/2004 1:13:26 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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He would like to see some interdenominational, nonpartisan civil or religious rite in the U.S. that goes beyond parades and welcome-home ceremonies.

The Catholic sacrament of absolution exists for a reason.

10 posted on 09/30/2004 1:14:04 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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But particularly evident today is the ongoing toll of the Vietnam War, whose vets are overrepresented in the homeless and prison populations. One-third are said to suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).

Wait just a minute. My BS detector went off at this point. Is this article correct, or is it a collection of off-base anecdotes and outdated stereotypes?

It's true that the military hasn't talked much in the past about the aftermath of killing. But I've heard them start to talk about this a few months ago.

11 posted on 09/30/2004 1:15:36 PM PDT by 68skylark
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BUMP for later reading.


12 posted on 09/30/2004 1:16:30 PM PDT by LTCJ (CBS, all your Boyd Cycles are belong to us.)
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I do agree with you, totally. Trauma is trauma,,and while there are varying degrees I'm sure (not a psychologist),,it can still hurt and hang on.

Sure the article has a slant. That's ok, we can see it for what it is.


13 posted on 09/30/2004 1:17:07 PM PDT by austinaero
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>>>>During one operation, "a female truck driver dropped us off and was guarding the truck when a kid about 10 years old came around the corner and started shooting at her," he says. "What does she do - shoot him or get shot?"

I'm not sure I understand the question here. What do you mean what does she do? Is there some moral issue here I'm missing? He's shooting at her! I thought there was really only one response to that, and the only real decision is which weapon she uses.

Not to mention which, they mention her gender several times. Is that relevant to the issue somehow?

patent


14 posted on 09/30/2004 1:17:43 PM PDT by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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'Interesting' as in: "whiney, defeatist, therapy-nation crrrrrrap!".


15 posted on 09/30/2004 1:17:58 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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I think the article has a slant.

I agree. It reads like an argument for pacificism.

16 posted on 09/30/2004 1:19:29 PM PDT by 68skylark
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.....In July, the New England Journal of Medicine reported that 16 percent of veterans of the war in Iraq suffer from depression or PTSD

I'm thinkin'.....84% are ready to kill.

17 posted on 09/30/2004 1:21:50 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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The first responsibility of leadership and the public, many say, is not to put the country's sons and daughters at risk unless going to war is essential.

Notice the editorial and the "many say".

The grubby paw-print of the liberal journo-troll.

18 posted on 09/30/2004 1:21:53 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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The issue might seem simple when far from the battlefield. But I've read on-the-spot reports from soldiers who feel it's a terrible moral dilemma when it happens for real. One soldier reported he couldn't shoot at a child who was shooting at him, until he was hit more than once in his body armor. Things are different when you see them and live them, I guess. (I haven't been in combat myself, so I can't comment from personal experience.)
19 posted on 09/30/2004 1:22:30 PM PDT by 68skylark
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Wait just a minute. My BS detector went off at this point. Is this article correct, or is it a collection of off-base anecdotes and outdated stereotypes?

The article is wrong. B.G. Burkett debunked this sort of crap in his book "Stolen Valor". It's a great read.

20 posted on 09/30/2004 1:24:57 PM PDT by Bob
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