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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Get to the online polls
MSNBC Kerry 73
Bush 27
CNN Kerry 84
Bush 12
Looks like the Dummies are flooding the polls


2,621 posted on 09/30/2004 8:03:41 PM PDT by finallyatexan
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Bush gets only 12% on CNN? LOL, what did you expect? There was a DNC plea to go vote in the online polls after the debate, and most Bush supporters avoid CNN.

Bush did not do well on style, but while Kerry was delivering a pretty good stage performance, he served up some whoppers that will be good grist for the mill in the coming month.

"Don't blame the warrior" from the debate coupled with his '71 senate screed stands out, but there were others.

Bush in a landslide.


2,622 posted on 09/30/2004 8:03:48 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: All

This was not a debate people. This was a news conference. Everyone here was looking for a knockout. A knockout was not needed. Kerry did fine if you are looking for style and debate points. Bush spoke to the American people. Kerry needed a KO and didn't get it. It was a draw and that's a win for our guy.


2,623 posted on 09/30/2004 8:03:52 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: ApesForEvolution

I saw that, too! How pathetic and phoney were they??! That smelled of a set-up right from the first question.


2,624 posted on 09/30/2004 8:04:13 PM PDT by Ladysmith
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To: telebob

" To win the title YOU GOT TO KNOCK THE CHAMP OUT!"

The old time pundits said for Kerry " to win " he had to score a knock out.
So, if you look at it that way, Kerry lost.
I honestly can't remember a thing Kerry said-except he would end the bunker buster program.
Kerry talked and talked, but, he said nothing positive and offered no plans for anything.
Anyone who watched the debates was hammered with the themes of hard work, don't send mixed messages, fighting terrorism, global war, democracy, liberty, freedom and security by Bush.
The format made it hard for Bush to counteract all of Kerry's lies, so Kerry had an easier time.
I thought President Bush did just fine.


2,625 posted on 09/30/2004 8:04:13 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue ( Kerry to our troops-Throw down your arms and surrender !)
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To: Conservababe
And those orange streaks that appeared on his cheekbones could not have helped him. LOL

That's the yellow strpe on his back trying to bleed through to the rest of his anatomy.

2,626 posted on 09/30/2004 8:04:19 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (G W B 2004! Friends Don't Let Friends Vote For DemocRATS)
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To: Fredgoblu

"Inconsistency? I think so."

Exactly. Kerry came across very confused on what he would actually DO w.r.t Korea, Iran, etc.

He can criticize, but he can't and didn't even come close to offer anything better. That came across very clearly. How can the claim be that he "won" the debate, when he just repeated a bunch of meaningless statements?

He has nothing to offer. His supposedly "smooth" presentation did NOT cover up that fact. Bush nailed him on Korea among other issues.


2,627 posted on 09/30/2004 8:04:26 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH (Proudly served in the National Guard)
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To: alcuin; ALOHA RONNIE

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2,628 posted on 09/30/2004 8:04:30 PM PDT by Joy Angela (Kerry-Hillary-Bill The Devils Triangle)
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To: Muleteam1

>>Terazza was drunk or high.<<

As we like to say out here in the Southwest, "as ugly as a mud fence."




Why can't Terrrraazzzzz get her hair done, especially since Kerry spends so much money on his hair and nails?


2,629 posted on 09/30/2004 8:04:39 PM PDT by okokie (Laura Bush is a REAL WOMAN, a lady with manners and grace)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Here's how the debate went, imo
2,630 posted on 09/30/2004 8:04:45 PM PDT by deport ("Because we believe in human dignity..." [President Bush at the UN])
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To: Brad Cloven

I think your assessment is wrong. Bush building towards the end of the debate grew stronger, I love'd it when Kerry was asked which approach he thought was better and he said "Both"
And Bush's summation, just washed away the pablum of Kerry's summation comments....Bush started slow - no question - but totally won...now you won't be able to tell that from reading the national media...the only clear indication you will have that Bush won is from the NY Times...if tomorrow they say it was a draw...Bush won.


2,631 posted on 09/30/2004 8:04:58 PM PDT by fourthrider (fourthrider...Proud Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: nmh

Kerry needs to do some fact checking though.


2,632 posted on 09/30/2004 8:05:06 PM PDT by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: Blogger

If people wanted entertainment, Kerry gave it to them. If they wanted substance, Bush gave it to them. I don't think either one of them was very forceful, but I felt that President Bush definitely showed the American people that his biggest priority is keeping this nation safe. Kerry didn't do that.


2,633 posted on 09/30/2004 8:05:08 PM PDT by mass55th (Kerry: Classless and clueless!!!)
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To: OldFriend

"Yes, Kerry is all for us shutting down our nukes as an example.
If this doesn't end his chances for all time then we are doomed."

Talk about being in deep do-do. This is what the radical left yearns for in their imaginary world of peace love and happiness. The real world doesn't work that way. A strong defense scares the bullies away. Just like armed citizens with guns scares thieves and other creeps from trying to harm you. Hey, I'm preaching to the choir.


2,634 posted on 09/30/2004 8:05:08 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: COEXERJ145; sinkspur

hahahaha-basically Kerry didnt make any good points - and he had too - he tries hard to be deep voiced and act "commanding"
but he just sounds silly
President Bush is sometimes a little wandering - but he has made all the points he needs to already..
WOOHOO
4 more years!! amen!!
all my friends watching all over america tonight say Bush by 7pts!!
Rudy just hit a home run for our President after the debate.. he kicked down every single doom and gloom Chris Wallace tried to ask him..
Those polls always get won by a Lib....who cares what they say HAHAHAHA

President Bush was himself tonight....hes never been a great speaker, thats NOTHING new, but hes a GREAT PRESIDENT!!


2,635 posted on 09/30/2004 8:05:09 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: wvromania
KERRY JUST SAID HE'D GIVE NUKE FULE TO IRAN!

09/30/2004 10:06:04 PM EDT · 1,523 of 2,623

2,636 posted on 09/30/2004 8:05:23 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Centurion2000

Dunno. I sure don't want to watch or read tonight ever again. (Sorry, I know we're supposed to be more upbeat, but I'm not.)


2,637 posted on 09/30/2004 8:05:28 PM PDT by Gunder
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To: wvromania
DID Kerry say give IRAN NUCLEAR FUEL?

Yes he did.

I think President Bush showed why we all love him...skerry showed why we all think he's a jerk-off. He again PROVED what a complete assh*le he is. And he ain't know John Kennedy.....Kennedy never came across like such an assh*le as skerry--BUSH WINS....SKERRY LOSES AGAIN!!!

2,638 posted on 09/30/2004 8:05:31 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Muleteam1

>>Terazza was drunk or high.<<

As we like to say out here in the Southwest, "as ugly as a mud fence."




Why can't Terrrraazzzzz get her hair done, especially since Kerry spends so much money on his hair and nails?


2,639 posted on 09/30/2004 8:05:31 PM PDT by okokie (Laura Bush is a REAL WOMAN, a lady with manners and grace)
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To: Timeout

Yes, the ABC instant poll viewers gave the debate to Kerry. But it didn't change any of their votes. Among them, Bush went in with a 4 pt lead. Afterwards, he still led by 4 pts.



NBC interviewed six undecideds (seriously, if you're undecided at this point you shouldn't be allowed to vote) and ALL of them said that they were for Kerry. It was a total joke!


2,640 posted on 09/30/2004 8:05:41 PM PDT by New Girl
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