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Kerry Vs. Kerry (Kerry’s Top Ten Iraq Flip FlopsFrom First Debate)
Republican National Committee ^ | October 1, 2004

Posted on 10/01/2004 11:26:02 AM PDT by RWR8189

KERRY VS. KERRY
Kerry’s Top Ten Iraq Flip Flops
From First Debate
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VIEW THE “KERRY VS. KERRY” DEBATE VIDEO HERE:
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ONE: Claimed “I’ll Never Give A Veto To Any Country Over Our Security.”  (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      Preemption Must Pass “Global Test” First.  “No president, though all of American history, has ever ceded, and nor would I, the right to preempt in any way necessary to protect the United States of America. But if and when you do it, Jim, you have to do it in a way that passes the test, that passes the global test where your countrymen, your people understand fully why you’re doing what you’re doing and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons.”  (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      Kerry Would Wait On French And Russians To Defend America.  SEN. JOHN KERRY: “I would have done what was necessary to know that you had exhausted the available remedies with the French and the Russians.” (MSNBC’s “Hardball,” 10/20/03)

TWO: Claimed “Reason For Going To War Was Weapons Of Mass Destruction, Not The Removal Of Saddam Hussein.”   (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      Kerry Said “Greatest Threat” Was Saddam’s “Miscalculation,” Not “Actual” WMDs.  KERRY: “I would disagree with John McCain that it’s the actual weapons of mass destruction he may use against us, it’s what he may do in another invasion of Kuwait or in a miscalculation about the Kurds or a miscalculation about Iran or particularly Israel. Those are the things that – that I think present the greatest danger. He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat.”  (CBS’ “Face The Nation,” 9/15/02)

THREE: Claimed “This President Has Made, I Regret To Say, A Colossal Error Of Judgment. And Judgment Is What We Look For In The President Of The United States Of America.”  (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      Kerry Questioned Judgment Of Those Claiming Saddam’s Capture Didn’t Help U.S. Security.  “Those who doubted whether Iraq or the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein and those who believe today that we are not safer with his capture don’t have the judgment to be president or the credibility to be elected president.”  (CNN’s “Capital Gang,” 12/20/03; Anne Q. Hoy, “Dean Faces More Criticism,” [New York] Newsday, 12/17/03)

FOUR: Complained “We Are 90 Percent Of The Casualties And 90 Percent Of The Cost: $200 Billion – $200 Billion That Could Have Been Used For Health Care, For Schools, For Construction, For Prescription Drugs For Seniors, And It’s In Iraq.”  (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      Kerry Pledged To Fund Reconstruction With “Whatever Number” Of Dollars It Took.  NBC’S TIM RUSSERT: “Do you believe that we should reduce funding that we are now providing for the operation in Iraq?”  SEN. JOHN KERRY: “No. I think we should increase it.”  RUSSERT: “Increase funding?”  KERRY: “Yes.”  RUSSERT: “By how much?”  KERRY: “By whatever number of billions of dollars it takes to win. It is critical that the United States of America be successful in Iraq, Tim.”  (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 8/31/03)

FIVE: Claimed “You Don’t Send Troops To War Without The Body Armor That They Need.”  (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      Kerry Said It Would Be Reckless And “Irresponsible” To Vote Against Funding For Troops.  LOS ANGELES TIMES’ DOYLE McMANUS: “If that amendment does not pass, will you then vote against the $87 billion?”  KERRY: “I don’t think any United States senator is going to abandon our troops and recklessly leave Iraq to whatever follows as a result of simply cutting and running. That’s irresponsible. What is responsible is for the administration to do this properly now. And I am laying out the way in which the administration could unite the American people, could bring other countries to the table, and I think could give the American people a sense that they’re on the right track. There’s a way to do this properly. But I don’t think anyone in the Congress is going to not give our troops ammunition, not give our troops the ability to be able to defend themselves. We’re not going to cut and run and not do the job.”  (CBS’ “Face The Nation,” 9/14/03)

ü      Kerry Voted Against Senate Passage Of Iraq/Afghanistan Reconstruction Package That Included “Money For Body Armor For Soldiers.”  (S. 1689, CQ Vote #400: Passed 87-12: R 50-0; D 37-11; I 0-1, 10/17/03, Kerry Voted Nay; “Highlights Of Iraq, Afghanistan Measures,” The Associated Press, 10/17/03)

ü      ‘“I Actually Did Vote For The $87 Billion Before I Voted Against It,’ [Kerry] Said.”(Glen Johnson, “Kerry Blasts Bush On Protecting Troops,” The Boston Globe, 3/17/04)

SIX: Said Americans In Iraq Not Dying For “Mistake.”  PBS’ JIM LEHRER: “Are Americans now dying in Iraq for a mistake?”  KERRY: “No, and they don’t have to, providing we have the leadership that we put – that I’m offering.”  (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      Earlier In Debate, Kerry Called Iraq War “Mistake.”  “We can’t leave a failed Iraq. But that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a mistake of judgment to go there and take the focus off of Osama bin Laden. It was.”  (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      “But The President Made A Mistake In Invading Iraq.”  (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

SEVEN: Said Knowing What He Knows Now, “Would Not” Have Authorized Use Of Force.  “What I think troubles a lot of people in our country is that the president has just sort of described one kind of mistake. But what he has said is that, even knowing there were no weapons of mass destruction, even knowing there was no imminent threat, even knowing there was no connection with al Qaeda, he would still have done everything the same way. Those are his words.  Now, I would not.”  (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      Said Knowing What He Knows Now, “Would Have Voted For The Authority.”  SEN. JOHN KERRY: “Yes, I would have voted for the authority. I believe it’s the right authority for a president to have. But I would have used that authority as I have said throughout this campaign, effectively. I would have done this very differently from the way President Bush has.” (CNN’s “Inside Politics,” 8/9/04)

EIGHT: Claimed “The President Says That I’m Denigrating These Troops. I Have Nothing But Respect For The British, Tony Blair, And For What They’ve Been Willing To Do.”   (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      Kerry Dismissed Coalition Partners As “Window Dressing” And Claimed They’re Not Sharing Burden Of War And Reconstruction.  CNN’S BILL HEMMER: “The White House would say that dozens of countries are helping now in the effort on the ground in Iraq and they are engaged with the U.N., as well, how would more international involvement prevent the violence we’re seeing today?”  SEN. JOHN KERRY: “Well, the fact is that those countries are really window dressing to the greatest degree. And they weren’t there in the beginning when we went in, and they’re not carrying the cost of this war.”  (CNN’s “American Morning,” 3/2/04)

NINE: Claimed “I’ve Had One Position, One Consistent Position, That Saddam Hussein Was A Threat.”  (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      Kerry Said, “We Now Know That Iraq Had No Weapons Of Mass Destruction, And Posed No Imminent Threat To Our Security.”  (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks At New York University, New York, NY, 9/20/04)

TEN: Claimed “My Position Has Been Consistent: Saddam Hussein Is A Threat. He Needed To Be Disarmed.”  (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

ü      “Saying There Are Weapons Of Mass Destruction In Iraq Doesn’t Make It So.”  (Sen. John Kerry, Remarks To Democrat National Convention, Boston, MA, 7/29/04)

ü      “I Have Always Said We May Yet Even Find Weapons Of Mass Destruction.”  (Fox News’ “Fox News Sunday,” 12/14/03)


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To: Murph

How can the MSM portray Kerry the winner when it takes 24 hrs. to figure out that Kerry has multiple personalites? Can you believe how this guy talks out of both sides of his mouth?


21 posted on 10/01/2004 2:02:08 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: RWR8189

Subject: the Bible --another thing Kerry doesn't know.



The Lord has a way of revealing those of us who really know him, and those that don't! Think about it! Kerry gave a big speech last week about how his faith is so "important" to him. In this attempt to convince the American people that we should consider him for president, he announced that
his favorite Bible verse is John 16:3. Of course (hopefully) the speech writer meant John 3:16, but nobody in the Kerry camp was familiar enough with scripture to catch the error.

And do you know what John 16:3 says?
John 16:3 says: "They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me."
The Spirit works in strange ways!

Pass it on VOTE, VOTE, VOTE!!


22 posted on 10/01/2004 2:02:30 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse (Semper Fidelis)
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To: Grampa Dave

**ü Kerry Pledged To Fund Reconstruction With “Whatever Number” Of Dollars It Took. NBC’S TIM RUSSERT: “Do you believe that we should reduce funding that we are now providing for the operation in Iraq?” SEN. JOHN KERRY: “No. I think we should increase it.” RUSSERT: “Increase funding?” KERRY: “Yes.” RUSSERT: “By how much?” KERRY: “By whatever number of billions of dollars it takes to win. It is critical that the United States of America be successful in Iraq, Tim.” (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 8/31/03)**

This is a good one!


23 posted on 10/01/2004 2:05:19 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RWR8189
With thanks to whomever posted this graphic in the first place!


24 posted on 10/01/2004 2:06:15 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: i_dont_chat
Transcript & Video: Debate #1
25 posted on 10/01/2004 2:10:13 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sitewriter

I know I missed being here earlier, but I do remember Kerry's statement about the no-fly zone, because I remember thinking at the time that, yeah, and Sadaam was firing at our guys EVERY DAY in that no-fly zone, too. Another good reason to take out the monster!


26 posted on 10/01/2004 3:25:40 PM PDT by luvie (WE will not waver;WE will not tire;WE will not falter!)
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To: Murph

Man--I would just love it if they were to find out that he did have the questions in advance! That would just rip it!


27 posted on 10/01/2004 3:27:45 PM PDT by luvie (WE will not waver;WE will not tire;WE will not falter!)
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28 posted on 10/01/2004 3:32:09 PM PDT by Da Mav
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To: RWR8189

29 posted on 10/01/2004 4:34:42 PM PDT by Ironclad (O Tempora! O Mores!)
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To: Da Mav

ping
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30 posted on 10/01/2004 7:56:27 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: LeoWindhorse

This whole thing about John 16:3 has been the subject of "Urban Legend" emails for the past 54 years. It has been attributed to Gore, Bush, Kerry. I do not believe it. Give us evidence of the exact "Quote" of something Kerry actually said.

I am a conservative Bush supporter, but I do not believe this John 16:3 crap...whether it is Gore, Bush or Kerry supposedly saying it.


31 posted on 10/01/2004 8:04:30 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

"...emails for the past 54 years..."

Sorry, ...for the past 4 years...


32 posted on 10/01/2004 8:11:45 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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I also loved the way Kerry said that there were no WMD's in Iraq yet he turned around a little bit later in the debate and said WMD's were pouring across the Iraqi border in huge quantities.


33 posted on 10/01/2004 10:33:30 PM PDT by north_georgia_republican
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To: i_dont_chat

Lurch was stepping all over Lehrer's questions in order to answer. There was no hesitation in "thinking over his answer". That was the giveaway to me.


34 posted on 10/02/2004 2:06:00 PM PDT by daybreakcoming ("The American press is all about lies! All they tell is lies, lies and more lies!",,,,,,Baghdad Bob)
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To: daybreakcoming

Biggest flip flop of the debate was kerry attacking the President for "going it alone" in Iraq, yet insisting that he should have "gone it alone" with NK.


35 posted on 10/02/2004 10:42:56 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: ValerieUSA; blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Kerry's Shifts: Nuanced Ideas or Flip-Flops?
Posted on 03/05/2004 9:23:15 PM PST by FairOpinion
NY Times ^ | March6, 2004 | DAVID M. HALBFINGER
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1091912/posts

1998: Kerry calls for ground troops to topple Saddam; Clinton not tough enough
The Boston Globe | February 23, 1998 | Aaron Zitner, Globe Staff
Posted on 06/20/2004 9:29:57 AM PDT by nwrep
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1156895/posts

Transcript of John Kerry acceptance speech
"You don't value families if you force them to take up a collection to buy body armor for a son or daughter in the service, if you deny veterans health care, or if you tell middle class families to wait for a tax cut, so that the wealthiest among us can get even more."
http://www.postgazette.com/pg/04212/354246.stm
[voted against body armor]

Whopper: John Kerry
Stop lying about your record!
By Timothy Noah
Posted Monday, March 15, 2004, at 3:15 PM PT
http://slate.msn.com/id/2097201/

Patriot Games
Posted on 03/01/2004 4:50:02 PM PST by RWR8189
The Weekly Standard ^ | March 7, 2004 | Fred Barnes
Why is John Kerry so defensive about his national security record?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1088673/posts
http://weeklystandard.com/Content/Protected/Articles/000/000/003/801oeivl.asp

Kerry Misfires In Economic Blame Game
Thw Washington Post ^ | 06/16/04 | Steven Pearlstein
Posted on 06/16/2004 5:23:06 AM PDT by TonyInOhio
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1154425/posts

NYT: The Face of Scare Politics
Posted by Mathew Gross
03:34 AM Wednesday, December 17, 2003
http://www.blogforamerica.com/
[regarding anti-Dean ad run by Kerry]

The Trouble With Kerry
Updated Monday, March 1, 2004, at 3:20 PM PT
http://slate.msn.com/id/2096408/


36 posted on 10/19/2004 10:20:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: RWR8189

from the Boston Globe 2/6/05:
"declaring: ''One thing I know is that I didn't flip-flop on anything." '


hee-hee.......


http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/kerry/articles/2005/02/06/weighing_defeat_kerry_sees_lessons_to_guide_future/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1337085/posts


37 posted on 02/06/2005 7:57:38 AM PST by bitt (Kerry "Hanoi"s me)
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