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Bush Ridicules Kerry Call for Summit on Iraq
Reuters ^ | 10/1/04

Posted on 10/01/2004 3:13:03 PM PDT by ambrose

Bush Ridicules Kerry Call for Summit on Iraq

Fri Oct 1, 2004 05:58 PM ET

By Steve Holland

MANCHESTER, N.H. (Reuters) - President Bush accused Democrat John Kerry of new contradictions and ridiculed his call for a international summit on Iraq on Friday as he sought to rebound from a debate that many Americans thought Kerry won.

The day after the first presidential debate, Bush swept into two battleground states, Pennsylvania and New Hampshire, and many of his jabs against Kerry sounded like what he wished he had said at the Miami encounter on Thursday night.

Bush advisers conceded that Kerry gave an articulate performance -- "a slick debater," in the words of one -- after snap polls taken after the debate showed Kerry won the first of three debates.

But as for the substance, Bush took issue with many of Kerry's positions and wasted little time in aggressively attacking them, particularly his pledge that if elected he would call a summit to seek more international help on Iraq.

"I've been to a lot of summits. I've never seen a meeting that would depose a tyrant or bring a terrorist to justice," Bush said at a rally in Allentown, Pa.

Traveling with Bush was Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, a one-time Bush rival who considers Kerry a friend on the other side of the aisle. McCain said Kerry had handled the debate well and Bush should not underestimate him in the next two.

But he differed with Kerry on trying to get more international support in Iraq. "We're not going to get additional support. The burden is going to be carried by the Americans, and British and our other coalition partners."

McCain said Kerry's call for direct U.S. talks with North Korea over its nuclear weapons program was a failed policy from the previous Clinton administration. Bush prefers six-party talks involving China.

Bush, who held a lead in national polls going into the debate, also accused the Massachusetts senator of new contradictions on Iraq by first saying that "the president made a mistake in invading Iraq" but then saying Americans were not dying in Iraq for a mistake.

"You can't have it both ways," Bush said. "You can't say it's a mistake and not a mistake. You can't be for getting rid of Saddam Hussein when things look good, and against it when times are hard."

And in both Allentown and Manchester, he lashed out at Kerry's contention that the United States had the right to take preemptive action abroad if it "passes the global test."

Bush promised to work with U.S. allies and the international community, "But I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France."

Kerry spokesman Phil Singer responded that "the global test is not asking for a permission slip. It's making sure that your decisions stand up to scrutiny and are backed by facts."

Bush campaign advisers praised their man for his plain-spoken delivery at the debate.

"We always expected him (Kerry) to be an articulate debater," said Bush campaign manager Ken Mehlman. But he said "Americans aren't electing a debater-in-chief, they're electing a commander-in-chief."

He played down the relevance of instant polls. "(They) focus on the fine points of college debating," Mehlman said.

Bush advisers also dismissed Democrats who drew attention to the way Bush scowled and looked irritated at times when Kerry was speaking.

"That wasn't irritated. I know irritated," said senior Bush adviser Karl Rove. Instead, he said Bush was "pensive" and "focused."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerryiraq

1 posted on 10/01/2004 3:13:03 PM PDT by ambrose
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President George W. Bush greets supporters at an election rally in Allentown, Pennsylvania, October 1, 2004. The day after his first debate with Senator John Kerry, Bush is back to campaigning for his re-election with visits in Pennsylvania and New Hampshire before returning to Washington later in the day. Photo by Jason Reed/Reuters

2 posted on 10/01/2004 3:13:48 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: ambrose

I wished Bush was have told Kerry that is was democrats that put nuclear reactors in N. Korea in the first place!


3 posted on 10/01/2004 3:15:18 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: ambrose

I love this man!


4 posted on 10/01/2004 3:15:40 PM PDT by Two Dawgs
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To: ambrose

"Americans aren't electing a debater-in-chief, they're electing a commander-in-chief." Ken Mehlman

Well said Ken.


5 posted on 10/01/2004 3:17:25 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: ambrose; Mia T; Mudboy Slim
"Americans aren't electing a debater-in-chief, they're electing a commander-in-chief."

Exactly. Debate skills, in no way, shape or form are a factor in how effective a POTUS is.
I prefer the format of the next two mtg's between the candidates - a 'town hall mtg' with people who will actually vote asking the questions.

6 posted on 10/01/2004 3:21:40 PM PDT by jla
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To: Sola Veritas

I'll go farther and concede Kerry is the masterdebater in chief.


7 posted on 10/01/2004 3:22:29 PM PDT by Williams
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To: ambrose
a debate that many Americans thought Kerry won.

The same "many people" that Katie Couric is forever quoting.

8 posted on 10/01/2004 3:22:40 PM PDT by JennysCool (Terrorism: Not a global test, John, but a pop quiz.)
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To: ambrose
Bush Ridicules Kerry

Break out the Kerry Rapid Response Team


9 posted on 10/01/2004 3:23:40 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Did you know I served in the Clone Wars?")
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To: Mike Fieschko

Do the guys in the wagon have to pass a global test before they respond?


10 posted on 10/01/2004 3:25:26 PM PDT by Sociopathocracy
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To: Williams

MIC. Master'bater in Chief?


11 posted on 10/01/2004 3:25:44 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: ambrose
Kerry needs to fact check too, President Bush in fact had two summits regarding Iraq, the Azores Summit and the Madrid Donors' Conference. I wish POTUS would've recalled that and thrown it right back in Kerry's F'in mule face.
12 posted on 10/01/2004 3:29:23 PM PDT by Soylent Democrats
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To: ambrose

Here's my perspective on the debate. I'm a lawyer. Although I do some trials, most of what I do involves appearing in court and making "statements of counsel." In other words, I'm the witness and I proffer evidence. I have days when I'm on my game and know the file inside out. There are days when I struggle. It's a biorhythm thing. Fact is, last night our president was not on his game. But he did well anyway and I'm proud of him. As Sean Hannity would say, Let not your heart be troubled.


13 posted on 10/01/2004 3:35:00 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: ambrose
Bush promised ... "I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France."

He threw a punch that left a mark -- all the way across the Atlantic!

14 posted on 10/01/2004 3:41:39 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: ambrose

If Al Qaeda were a debating team, I might consider voting for Kerry. Since they're a terrorist organization, I'll stick with GWB. (Not mine but I can't recall the source.)


15 posted on 10/01/2004 3:41:59 PM PDT by Bob
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To: ambrose
"That wasn't irritated. I know irritated," said senior Bush adviser Karl Rove. Instead, he said Bush was "pensive" and "focused."

Perception is in the eye of the beholder and few people know W as well as Rove. Bush looked irritated, annoyed. He could change that and do well.

16 posted on 10/01/2004 3:43:15 PM PDT by GretchenM (A country is a terrible thing to waste. Vote Republican.)
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To: Mercat

I thought Bush did just fine.

In fact, he did exactly what he needed to do - draw Kerry out of his shell, and let him say something stupid that can be turned into a commercial.

Some people here are upset because Bush didn't go for blood. They're the same people who were mad that Dole didn't challenge Clinton on Mena or Vince Foster. They're clueless as to the mentality of your avg swing voter moron.


17 posted on 10/01/2004 3:43:49 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: ambrose
I just love reading Reuters articles; every other sentence becomes a mini-editorial. The global test is a stupid way of giving up sovereignty to the UN. Really bad idea. It will come back to haunt JFK.
18 posted on 10/01/2004 3:43:56 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (I volunteer to instruct JFK on the meaning of a purple heart!!)
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To: ambrose

Kerry's soul mate, Jimmy Carter discussed terrorism at a "summit", too. This is what this "brain trust" of the democratic party had to say about his way of handling terrorism....during his debate with Ronald Reagan:

MR. CARTER: Barbara, one of the blights on this world is the threat and the activities of terrorists. At one of the recent economic summit conferences between myself and the other leaders of the western world, we committed ourselves to take strong action against terrorism. Airplane hijacking was one of the elements of that commitment. There is no doubt that we have seen in recent years - in recent months - additional acts of violence against Jews in France and, of course, against those who live in Israel, by the PLO and other terrorist organizations. Ultimately, the most serious terrorist threat is if one of those radical nations, who believe in terrorism as a policy, should have atomic weapons. Both I and all my predecessors have had a deep commitment to controlling the proliferation of nuclear weapons. In countries like Libya or Iraq, we have even alienated some of our closest trade partners because we have insisted upon the control of the spread of nuclear weapons to those potentially terrorist countries. When Governor Reagan has been asked about that, he makes the very disturbing comment that non-proliferation, or the control of the spread of nuclear weapons, is none of our business. And recently when he was asked specifically about Iraq, he said there is nothing we can do about it. This ultimate terrorist threat is the most fearsome of all, and it's part of a pattern where our country must stand firm to control terrorism of all kinds.

MR. SMITH: Ms. Walters, a follow up?

MS. WALTERS: While we are discussing policy, had Iran not taken American hostages. I assume that, in order to preserve our neutrality, we would have stopped the flow of spare parts and vital war materials once war broke out between Iraq and Iran. Now we're offering to lift the ban on such goods if they let our people come home. Doesn't this reward terrorism, compromise our neutrality, and possibly antagonize nations now friendly to us in the Middle East?

MR. CARTER: We will maintain our position of neutrality in the Iran and Iraq war. We have no plans to sell additional materiel or goods to Iran, that might be of a warlike nature. When I made my decision to stop all trade with Iran as a result of the taking of our hostages, I announced then, and have consistently maintained since then, that if the hostages are released safely, we would make delivery on those items which Iran owns - which they have bought and paid for - also, that the frozen Iranian assets would be released. That's been a consistent policy, one I intend to carry out.


19 posted on 10/01/2004 3:43:59 PM PDT by tuckrdout (Grant Teri Schindler (Schiavo) her wishes: Divorce and LIFE!)
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To: Sola Veritas
Exactly. I didn't even watch the debate---I probably won't watch the others either. "Debating" is a college/high school activity designed to teach focus and and the ability to argue all sides. At Presidential level, I expect candidates to be well past that! Kerry won the "debate", but I predicted that. He is a talker, argues all sides of an issue, and excels at verbosity. Therefore, a great debater. Now, conviction, and resolution, those are qualities that don't always show in a debate. How do you score those?

Essentially, I made up my mind in 1971. Kerry was a good "talker" then, too, he was just on the wrong side!
20 posted on 10/01/2004 3:49:53 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill)
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To: Bob

Outstanding point, and it is yours now!

Hey, one little tid bit I found, in honor of Jimmy Carter's birthday...I found a quote by President Reagan about the Iran Hostage crisis:

"What I do think should be done, once they are safely here with their families, and that tragedy is over - we've endured this humiliation for just lacking one week of a year now - then, I think, it is time for us to have a complete investigation as to the diplomatic efforts that were made in the beginning, why they have been there so long, and when they came home, what did we have to do in order to bring that about - what arrangements were made? And I would suggest that Congress should hold such an investigation. In the meantime, I'm going to continue praying that they'll come home."

Now, did that investigation into this terror act against our country ever happen? Can we republicans check up on the actions of the Democrats as to the findings of that report--in the years following that report?! What did Mr. Kerry have to say about the hostage crisis at the time?


21 posted on 10/01/2004 3:52:34 PM PDT by tuckrdout (Grant Teri Schindler (Schiavo) her wishes: Divorce and LIFE!)
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To: GretchenM
I think "irritated" is justified! After all the crap that jack-jawed dumba*s has tossed around-----the forged NG memos, the alleged "draft" (proposed by Democrats, no less), all the other lies perpetuated by Kerry and his Campaign! Lord, I'd be irritated, too! Actually, I admire the Prez's restraint!
22 posted on 10/01/2004 3:58:32 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill)
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To: ambrose

Kerry spokesman Phil Singer responded that "the global test is not asking for a permission slip. It's making sure that your decisions stand up to scrutiny and are backed by facts."

Ah yes, the scrutiny of the French, how ....penetrating!
How inportant to our security! We must "explain" it to
them, before we act.
Didn't we have a problem in Kosovo with a French nato officer who was "explaining" our moves to the wrong people?


23 posted on 10/01/2004 3:59:44 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tuckrdout
Stupid, STUPID, man----and I bet if you asked him today, he'd still say he was right! What a slug!
24 posted on 10/01/2004 4:02:50 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill)
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To: jla

Hell, if we want a debator, get the Rev. Al or Jimmy Swagart.


25 posted on 10/01/2004 4:07:26 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

In the next debate, W needs to stand up straighter, smile, not grimace when Kerry attacks and say more about Iraq than Kerry had the same intel.


26 posted on 10/01/2004 4:12:42 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ambrose
You can't have it both ways," Bush said. "You can't say it's a mistake and not a mistake. You can't be for getting rid of Saddam Hussein when things look good, and against it when times are hard."

This is a GREAT line. I just wish he would have said this last night...I know, I know Monday moring quarterbacking is easy.
27 posted on 10/01/2004 4:21:31 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: ambrose

At the Normandy beaches in 1944, we had a coalition that consisted basically of us, the British and the Canadians.

I think FDR should have held a summit and gotten more international support before going in. As it turned out, we paid most of the cost and took almost all the casualties.

And what were we doing invading France anyway? Didn't anybody tell Roosevelt that it was Tojo who attacked us, not Hitler???


28 posted on 10/01/2004 4:27:11 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: GretchenM
He threw a punch that left a mark -- all the way across the Atlantic!

That jumped out at me as well. In political speech terms this was a crotch stomp. Good for him.

29 posted on 10/01/2004 4:40:27 PM PDT by usurper
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To: Williams

Bet FN John wears gloves?


30 posted on 10/01/2004 4:53:10 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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