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Shrapnel and Cancer Figure in Kerry's Journey to Health [ 'All the News We Decide to Print' alert ]
New York Times ^ | Oct 3, 2004 | LAWRENCE K. ALTMAN

Posted on 10/02/2004 2:19:57 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko

Senator John Kerry, a lean athlete who is the picture of health as he skis, skates, cycles and windsurfs, is in robust condition, he and his doctors said in their first extended interviews discussing his medical history.

Mr. Kerry, 60, the Democratic presidential nominee, and his doctors discussed in great detail his health, particularly the surgery to remove his cancerous prostate gland in February 2003. It was one of two operations that disrupted his campaign. The second repaired a painful shoulder injury last March.

Mr. Kerry could become the first "cancer survivor" to be elected president, but he rejected the term as creating an unfair stigma. He is free of any vestiges of the cancer and characterized it as a nonissue in an interview in Las Vegas on Sept. 16. "I am cured," he said. "I am cancer-free, and the percentages of me being cancer-free 10 years from now are about as good as they get."

Mr. Kerry's doctors said they had told him that he was cured. They based their optimism on an array of tests and concluded that he had a less than 3 percent chance of a recurrence in the next nine years. Even if the cancer came back, it could be treated without seriously interfering with presidential duties, Mr. Kerry's doctors and experts said.

"The likelihood that he is going to have a significant problem with this cancer is infinitesimally small," said Dr. Patrick C. Walsh, the Johns Hopkins University urologist who performed the operation. The five-year death rate for the kind of prostate cancer that Mr. Kerry developed is virtually zero.

In a 20-minute interview, Mr. Kerry pledged to disclose any ailment he might develop as president "if it's relevant to my ability to conduct my office or to affect the country in some way."

Mr. Kerry, who has signed a living will outlining his wishes if he is incapacitated, said that he and his running mate, Senator John Edwards of North Carolina, had not discussed how a transfer of power, if necessary, would be invoked under the 25th Amendment. He said he would do "whatever's appropriate if a moment arrives." He added: "People will tend to know when that moment's arrived. They either happen with time to talk about it or they happen in a way that it's automatic."

Mr. Kerry's participation in strenuous activities like windsurfing, bicycle races of up to 112 miles and weight lifting has kept him exceptionally fit, he said. He would be in even better shape if he were not campaigning, Mr. Kerry said, "but for somebody who is running for president, I'm in about as good a shape as I think anybody could be."

To show his full recovery from the orthopedic surgery that he underwent last spring to repair tears in a biceps tendon and a muscle in his right shoulder, Mr. Kerry thrust both arms straight up as if to signal a touchdown and smiled. Before the operation, pain and weakness hindered him from raising his right arm overhead or lifting an object. Occasionally, pain from the muscle tear awakened him.

Mr. Kerry's injuries as a young man, however, seem to have given him more trouble - political trouble, that is - than his shoulder surgery.

A group of veterans has challenged the validity of the three Purple Hearts that Mr. Kerry received for wounds he suffered while serving on Swift boats in the Vietnam war. These critics suggested that the shrapnel that hit him in one mission was rice, not metal.

However, CT scan X-rays taken at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston document that two pieces of metal shrapnel are embedded deep in Mr. Kerry's left thigh, next to the femur, said Dr. Gerald J. Doyle, Mr. Kerry's personal physician in Boston who reviewed the X-rays at the request of this reporter, who is a physician. Doctors treating the wound in 1969 decided to leave the shrapnel in place. "One piece of shrapnel is about the size of a bullet, the other a bit smaller," Dr. Doyle said.

Mr. Kerry said, "I can't tell you I really feel it," but "it's back in here somewhere," as he slapped his thigh.

The author Douglas Brinkley wrote in "Tour of Duty," his account of Mr. Kerry's Navy service, that the young officer injured his arm and suffered "a slight concussion" when he was thrown against the bulkhead of a Swift boat. Mr. Kerry said that he hit his head but that in using the word concussion with the writer he meant "the concussion of the explosion" and never said he had "a cerebral concussion" because that diagnosis "is not in my medical records."

Mr. Kerry was confident, affable and answered all questions in the interview.

Earlier, Mr. Kerry gave three of his doctors permission to speak about his health with this reporter. Each doctor, interviewed separately, said that Mr. Kerry had instructed him not to withhold any information about his medical history.

Before presidential elections over the last 24 years, The New York Times has looked into the health of presidential nominees.

In the past, White House and personal physicians have at times misrepresented or lied about a president's health. For example, Franklin D. Roosevelt's doctors did not disclose the heart and vascular disease that caused his death, and John F. Kennedy and his family denied reports that he had Addison's disease, or adrenal insufficiency, and required hormone injections.

In 1992, a Democratic president candidate, Senator Paul E. Tsongas of Massachusetts, and his doctors said he had been cured of a lymphoma cancer. In fact, Mr. Tsongas had had a recurrence of the disease and died of it a day short of what would have been the end of his first term had he been elected.

Mr. Kerry, in expressing confidence that he was cured of prostate cancer, pointed to former Senator Bob Dole of Kansas, 81, who underwent the same operation in 1991, five years before he lost the presidential election to Bill Clinton.

Mr. Dole "is doing great today," Mr. Kerry said. "There's your answer."

Since his surgery, blood tests performed every six months to check Mr. Kerry's prostate-specific antigen, or P.S.A., a marker for cancer, have indicated no recurrence. The latest test was performed Sept. 18 in a house call by Dr. Doyle.

Reasons for Concern

Mr. Kerry's P.S.A. was in the normal range when his cancer was detected during an annual checkup in December 2002. But because the figure had risen by 70 percent over two years, both Teresa Heinz Kerry, the senator's wife, and Dr. Doyle independently felt the need to check further.

Mrs. Heinz Kerry keeps a sharp eye on her husband's health. In an interview on Sept. 20, she said that her husband told her in November 2002 that routine blood tests performed through the Attending Physician's office at the Capitol were "fine" and that he was particularly pleased about a cholesterol count of 195.

"Cholesterol isn't everything," she said she told him.

The P.S.A. test was a normal 3.24 nanograms per milliliter. But Mrs. Heinz Kerry said she told her husband, "it's low, but high for you" and urged him to see Dr. Doyle in Boston and repeat the tests.

When the doctor examined Mr. Kerry on Dec. 17, 2002, it was his patient's first checkup in nearly two years. A standard digital examination and an ultrasound test found no nodules or other prostate abnormality that might signal cancer. His new P.S.A. level was a normal 3.4 nanograms per milliliter. Nevertheless, Dr. Doyle said he was concerned because the figure had crept up from 2.7 in Feb. 2001 and 2.0 in Dec. 1999 and Nov. 2000.

So Dr. Doyle consulted Dr. Alex F. Althausen, a urologist, who recommended a biopsy. "The rate of increase was what alarmed us both," Dr. Doyle said.

After learning that an ultrasound "isn't a fail-safe" test, Mr. Kerry decided he wanted a biopsy.

After fitting Mr. Kerry into his schedule between surgeries on Dec. 20, Dr. Althausen told Dr. Doyle that the biopsy specimens did not look suspicious to his naked eye, Dr. Doyle said.

But the real test was viewing the biopsied tissue under a microscope, and the pathology report showed cancer in five of the pieces that were removed.

Mr. Kerry was one of more than 200,000 men in the United States in whom prostate cancer is diagnosed each year. About 1 in 6 American men will develop the disease at some point, but only 1 in 33 will die of it, the American Cancer Society says. The reason is that prostate cancers often do not develop until men are in their 70's or older and often grow slowly; men who develop prostate cancer often die of other causes.

Dr. Doyle wanted to inform Mr. Kerry about the finding in person, as he usually does. "Most patients are overwhelmed when they first learn they have cancer, and many lose their focus," he said.

But for four days over the long holiday weekend, (Christmas was midweek) Dr. Doyle's attempts to leave messages for Mr. Kerry at his Senate and local offices failed because the voice mailbox was full. He finally reached Mr. Kerry on Christmas Eve at his home in Sun Valley, Idaho.

"To have to tell someone over the phone is difficult," Dr. Doyle said. "But I had to because we wanted to get things squared away as soon as possible."

When he delivered the news to his patient, Dr. Doyle said, "He didn't miss a beat and just asked all these appropriate questions right away as though it were someone other than himself."

"What does this mean?" Dr. Doyle said Mr. Kerry asked him. "What are my options? What is the time frame we are talking about here? How soon can we get moving on it?"

Mr. Kerry recalled, "A lot of things went through my mind," including memories of his father, who died of prostate cancer at age 85 in 2000. (Studies show that a family history of prostate cancer increases the risk of developing the disease but not the rate of its progression.)

"My dad had radiation, and I saw just how he lived at the end, and I didn't want to go through that," Mr. Kerry said.

After consulting with people who had different treatments for prostate cancer, Mr. Kerry said, "I knew what I wanted and needed to do."

"I made the decision, boom, and we booked the surgery, and 30 days later I did it," he said.

Mrs. Heinz Kerry said she had read about Dr. Walsh, who had developed a nerve-sparing prostate operation that preserves continence and potency for many patients, and suggested the couple call him.

The decision to have the surgery in Baltimore irked many doctors in his home, Boston. Mr. Kerry said he regretted that attitude, and that he preferred to recuperate near his office in Washington. The operation, removing the entire prostate gland, was performed on Feb. 12, 2003 and "went by the book," Dr. Walsh said. His patient, though, did not allow himself much time to recover.

"He needed to be at a major event out in California two weeks later," Dr. Walsh said. "So he shortened his recovery schedule by a little bit just to make it fit."

Mr. Kerry said, "It takes you a little longer to get back up to speed than you think because they put a bunch of stitches in you, and I was surprised at how many."

"The prostate slowed me down a little bit at a critical time," Mr. Kerry said. "It was an annoyance; it was aggravating."

The pathology report was the best that Mr. Kerry could receive: the cancer was confined to the left side of the prostate gland. And on the Gleason scale, a standard measure of the severity of prostate cancer, Mr. Kerry's score was 6 out of 10, considered a very favorable finding.

If Mr. Kerry had a recurrence, Dr. Walsh said, "he would be astonished, and so would I, and I am telling you this with the very conscious understanding of what happened to Senator Tsongas."

Dr. Peter T. Scardino, the chief urologist at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Institute in Manhattan, who is not connected with Mr. Kerry's case, said that while "there are no guarantees," he agreed with the prognosis given Mr. Kerry. "Something bizarre could happen as an exception to the rule, but it would be extremely surprising," Dr. Scardino said.

If Mr. Kerry's cancer did return, it could be controlled by radiation therapy over six weeks, Dr. Scardino said. "That would almost certainly not interfere with his functioning as president except" to limit travel during that period and for the fatigue that often follows radiation therapy, he said.

Sports Take a Toll

The shoulder operation last March was Mr. Kerry's second on that joint. He has also had surgery three other times for sports-related knee injuries, said Dr. Bertram Zarins, an orthopedist at Massachusetts General Hospital. Dr. Zarins said that Mr. Kerry injured one knee twice (skiing and soccer), and the other playing softball.

Mr. Kerry's first shoulder injury was in May 1992 when he fell from a bicycle and broke his right clavicle. The fracture healed but the scar tissue that formed put pressure on a nerve in the shoulder, which was relieved by minor surgery in 1993, Dr. Zarins said.

Late last January, Mr. Kerry grabbed a railing on a campaign bus when the vehicle lurched, tearing a biceps tendon and subscapularis muscle in the previously injured right shoulder.

Dr. Zarins said he initially recommended that Mr. Kerry wait for the injury to heal. But Mr. Kerry continued to have pain and weakness, limiting the function of his right, and dominant, arm.

Timing for such surgery is critical; results are better if it is performed soon after the injury. If it is put off too long, the muscles and tendons wither and repair can become impossible.

After it became clear that the conservative treatment failed, the surgery was performed March 31.

"We waited longer than we normally would like because of" Mr. Kerry's campaign schedule, Dr. Zarins said. Mr. Kerry's recovery was speedier than most patients', Dr. Zarins said, because "he's very coordinated, a good athlete, has good pain tolerance and followed instructions well."

"He did everything the way it should be," Dr. Zarins said, and now "there are no problems with the shoulder."

Mr. Kerry takes no medications on a regular basis. But last summer Dr. Doyle said that he might recommend that Mr. Kerry start taking a statin drug, which lowers cholesterol, after the election. The reason was that tests of his total cholesterol and "bad" cholesterol, or L.D.L., showed that the counts had risen over the last two years.

Cholesterol counts can be influenced by exercise and diet. Mr. Kerry's total cholesterol has fluctuated between a high of 238 in 1995 and a low of 167 last February. It was at 228 last April, 215 in November 2003 and 195 in February 2003. (Risk of heart attacks rises at levels greater than 200, the American Heart Association says.) Over the same period, his bad cholesterol, or L.D.L., rose to 154 from 137 and 121, raising the possibility of a statin prescription.

Because Dr. Doyle wanted to measure the lipids - fatlike substances - after an overnight fast to get a more accurate reading, he paid a house call to Mr. Kerry in Boston on Sept. 18 to draw blood for a new set of tests. But when Dr. Doyle arrived about 10 A.M., as scheduled, his patient had eaten breakfast.

An Eye on Cholesterol

Nevertheless, the new test results were better. Mr. Kerry's total cholesterol was 194 and his L.D.L. 122. Dr. Doyle said that he would like to lower Mr. Kerry's L.D.L. to below 100, even to 70, but that he was reluctant to prescribe a statin drug during the campaign, in part because of the risk of side effects like muscle weakness and liver damage. He said he would re-evaluate the situation later this year.

Mr. Kerry's tests for thyroid and other functions were normal, Dr. Doyle said.

Mr. Kerry, who stands 6 feet 4 inches and has weighed between 180 and 185 pounds for many years, lost seven pounds campaigning earlier this year. But he gained eight pounds after Dr. Doyle recommended peanut butter sandwiches and ice cream to substitute for the meals that the senator often skipped because of a hectic schedule.

"To hell with the cholesterol," said Dr. Doyle, who offered his patient a political tip. "You can't have a gaunt-looking person running for president because people will draw conclusions that are erroneous."

Because of Mr. Kerry's excellent performance in vigorous activities, Dr. Doyle said he had not performed tests for heart disease, like an echocardiogram, exercise stress test or noninvasive CT scans.

Mr. Kerry has had pneumonia twice , once from a virus while a student at Yale, the other from pneumococcal bacteria while in the military in 1967. He has also had occasional bouts of bronchitis that have been treated with antibiotics, bronchial dilators and topical steroids. His lung function is normal

Mr. Kerry also has mild asthma and suffers from seasonal allergies like hay fever, and occasionally takes medications for them. Dr. Doyle said.

Until surgery in 1974, Mr. Kerry had a misalignment of his jaw that prevented him from biting properly and made a loud clicking noise when he ate. "It was exasperating," Mr. Kerry said. While critics have suggested the procedure was cosmetic, both he and his dental surgeon, Dr. Walter C. Guralnick of Massachusetts General Hospital denied that.

Mr. Kerry recently suffered a campaigner's nightmare - hoarseness from laryngitis. "I am talking all day long, so the voice pays a price," he said in the interview. He reduced the acidity in his food to minimize gastric reflux, which can aggravate the problem. Mr. Kerry has colonoscopies every three years because of polyps that were detected in 1985 and 1993. None were found on his last colonoscopy two years ago. He has tested negative for H.I.V., and has never been in trouble with the law for drug or alcohol abuse.



TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerry; kerryhealth; medicalrecord; shrapnel

1 posted on 10/02/2004 2:19:57 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko

They didn't cure his ColoioOral cancer. $h!t keeps running from his mouth.


2 posted on 10/02/2004 2:21:49 PM PDT by IamJustright
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To: Mike Fieschko

This piece is very dishonest since it makes no mention of John Kerry refusing to release his medical records.


3 posted on 10/02/2004 2:27:04 PM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Mike Fieschko

I would have thought shrapnel moving at a speed fast enough to penetrate the skin too deep to be removed would have resulted in a wound requiring more than a band-aid to treat. Perhaps stitches with a day out to prevent infection. Perhaps not.


4 posted on 10/02/2004 2:27:21 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: gov_bean_ counter

It just hurts when he pees.


5 posted on 10/02/2004 2:28:14 PM PDT by IamJustright
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To: Mike Fieschko

I just saw a Kerry bloviation on Fox, and he looked like he was a zombie. The healthy orange glow was gone, he had huge bags under his eyes, and he had a large and really nasty looking black mark on his right cheek. For his sake, I hope it was dirt.


6 posted on 10/02/2004 2:28:52 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Heinz-Kerry: "The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch.")
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To: IamJustright

Funny, thanks.


7 posted on 10/02/2004 2:29:02 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Mike Fieschko
In a 20-minute interview, Mr. Kerry pledged to disclose any ailment he might develop as president "if it's relevant to my ability to conduct my office or to affect the country in some way."

Isn't chronic lying a disease? Well--but it isn't relevant to being the president for a dem.

8 posted on 10/02/2004 2:29:52 PM PDT by DC Bound
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To: Mike Fieschko

Never, ever try to check your own prostate.

9 posted on 10/02/2004 2:32:36 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Mike Fieschko; All

Don't you just hate it when you have to scrutinize every word they say to get at the truth. I start asking myself about the doctor and what his political stance is and motivations, and the same with the reporters and everyone else mentioned in the story.

I guess that is what it has become for me; I don't trust anything from the liberals and haven't for many years.

Thanks to all here who bring to light their half truths and their "misleading" statements!!!


10 posted on 10/02/2004 2:33:26 PM PDT by landerwy
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To: Mike Fieschko
They protest too much.

No matter the paid for botox, collagen, fake tan, and windsurfing, the man looks half dead ALL the time.

11 posted on 10/02/2004 2:33:42 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: dennisw
This piece is very dishonest since it makes no mention of John Kerry refusing to release his medical records.

Yeah sure, we believe it because the New York Slime tells us so. NOT.

12 posted on 10/02/2004 2:34:21 PM PDT by sarasotarepublican
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To: billorites

Hey John! Your Proctologist called! he said he found your head!


13 posted on 10/02/2004 2:34:27 PM PDT by landerwy
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To: billorites

This one is better than the bunny foo foo picture. Please keep this bumped and then on as many threads as possible.....


14 posted on 10/02/2004 2:34:39 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: dennisw

the president usually takes his physical in august, why is he waiting until after the election. come on people, it seems odd.


15 posted on 10/02/2004 2:43:50 PM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: Mike Fieschko

Did they find any rice in his ice?????


16 posted on 10/02/2004 2:50:08 PM PDT by boothead
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To: Mike Fieschko

drudge has--cancer free; HIV-....

what is this about HIV???


17 posted on 10/02/2004 2:51:46 PM PDT by camas
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To: Mike Fieschko

Mr. Kerry's doctors said they had told him that he was cured. They based their optimism on an array of tests and concluded that he had a less than 3 percent chance of a recurrence in the next nine years. Even if the cancer came back, it could be treated without seriously interfering with presidential duties, Mr. Kerry's doctors and experts said.

Not so fast my dad was told the same thing,three years after his surgery he had to have radiation treatments and while it was not life threatening it did make him ill for weeks afterward.


18 posted on 10/02/2004 2:55:28 PM PDT by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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To: Mike Fieschko

The MSM can print anything they want about Kerry's health and his Vietnam service records. Until Kerry releases all his medical records and all his military service records, the public really knows nothing of importance about either.


19 posted on 10/02/2004 3:00:34 PM PDT by Pharlap
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To: dennisw
This piece is very dishonest since it makes no mention of John Kerry refusing to release his medical records.

You're not paying attention, and will be required to take this class as a make-up.
20 posted on 10/02/2004 3:05:11 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Did you know I served in the Clone Wars?")
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To: Mike Fieschko; All
RE: shrapnel found on CT scan. Tony Snow said on his show a few weeks ago that after Kerry took that spill on his bike he went to hospital and had CAT scan to make sure he was ok. Several callers pointed out he could not have had a CAT scan with the presence of shrapnel in his body-somebody has got it wrong-unless CT and CAT scan are the same?

Does anyone know if it is necessary to take any sort of medication after prostate surgery?

21 posted on 10/02/2004 3:05:11 PM PDT by uvular (Release your uncensored military, senatorial, and medical records, Mr. Kerry)
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To: Mike Fieschko

So why doesn't he just RELEASE HIS MEDICAL RECORDS?

Let's see it and have independent doctors evaluate it.


22 posted on 10/02/2004 3:14:21 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: Mike Fieschko

No prostate gland at all anymore, hm? That must make things interesting with Terayza at bedtime. I still want to know if he's impotent or has some bizarre sexual side-effects from the surgery. Even those supposedly nerve-sparing procedures often have some unfortunate consequences for the prostate-CA patient.


23 posted on 10/02/2004 3:39:47 PM PDT by Capriole
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To: Mike Fieschko
SPIN CITY

The author Douglas Brinkley wrote in "Tour of Duty," his account of Mr. Kerry's Navy service, that the young officer injured his arm and suffered "a slight concussion" when he was thrown against the bulkhead of a Swift boat. Mr. Kerry said that he hit his head but that in using the word concussion with the writer he meant "the concussion of the explosion" and never said he had "a cerebral concussion" because that diagnosis "is not in my medical records."

Also:

A group of veterans has challenged the validity of the three Purple Hearts that Mr. Kerry received for wounds he suffered while serving on Swift boats in the Vietnam war. These critics suggested that the shrapnel that hit him in one mission was rice, not metal.

Outrageous lie!

The Swiftees said he was hit by a grenade fragment AND rice when he & Rassman blew the rice bunker, using Kerry's own words; and only disputed his claim that he was hit by sharpnel LATER, when the mine went off under the other boat, on the other side of the river.

"One piece of shrapnel is about the size of a bullet, the other a bit smaller," Dr. Doyle said.

Talk about a "loaded" term, in an anti-gun state!

WE know what a 'bullet' is, BUT most of this rag's readers can be counted upon to equate 'bullet' with 'cartridge', without even getting into such specifics as a 17 gr .22; or a 405 gr 45-70.

24 posted on 10/02/2004 3:58:07 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Capriole

That was my question too. So without the prostate gland, you can't have, you know... _ _ _ can you?


25 posted on 10/02/2004 4:00:06 PM PDT by queenkathy
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To: Mike Fieschko

Adding together all the ailments listed in this puff piece, Jean-Pierre is one sick metrosexual!


26 posted on 10/02/2004 4:11:01 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: uvular

It is a MRI you can't have if you have any metal in your body.


27 posted on 10/02/2004 4:33:53 PM PDT by lolhelp
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To: Mike Fieschko
I hope we have a Freeper Urologist handy. I have problems with this article. First, it remains unclear what procedure Senator Kerry actually had. Did he have a radical prostatectomy? Or, did he have what amounts to an enucleation of the cancerous material followed by radiation of some kind?

If we know his procedure, the next question is what was the grading of his cancer and did it penetrate or approach the wall of the prostate?

Also, as others have pointed out, we do not have copies of the actual medical records. We do have an endorsement and testimonial from his physicians. I also note Tsongas had the same but died in four years of a different type (lymphoma?)of cancer. Bob Dole had a five year cancer free after his radical prostatectomy.

If their facts are correct, there is no reason to conceal his medical records. Such a mystery dogged President Clinton. An additional Senator Kerry mystery is the tax returns of his wife. She is the 389th richest person in the US and enquiring minds would like to know how she has dealt with her taxes and what corporations, entities and charities she has supported.

Besides the mystery of what is his current position on almost anything, we still have health and financial mysteries that the MSM seems nonchalant about.

28 posted on 10/02/2004 4:45:54 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: dennisw

How old is the x-ray? When was in taken, 1970?

BTW, the shrapnel isn't the issue. It's how he got it. The "rice bin" incident is a joke, self - inflicted and testified to both Kerry and Rassman as the incident. sInce it was not in heat of battle, no PH. Kerry's own report posited it to the later mine incident, which if his injury occred then, would deserve the PH.


I like the "size of a bullet" angle too. What, Kerry never said he was shot.


29 posted on 10/02/2004 5:04:20 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy

With John Kerry it's strictly "trust but verify". If he has some shrapnel it's due to his own malfeasance. And his doctor might lie? I don't know. He's a long time friend so who knows.


30 posted on 10/02/2004 5:32:48 PM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: IamJustright

Mr. Kerry's participation in strenuous activities like windsurfing, bicycle races of up to 112 miles and weight lifting has kept him exceptionally fit, he said.

You have to be kidding, no way this dude lifts weights hevier than 5 pounds. Have you ever seen his punch in the air? He is a stick.


31 posted on 10/02/2004 5:59:54 PM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: Mike Fieschko
However, CT scan X-rays taken at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston document that two pieces of metal shrapnel are embedded deep in Mr. Kerry's left thigh, next to the femur, said Dr. Gerald J. Doyle, Mr. Kerry's personal physician in Boston who reviewed the X-rays at the request of this reporter, who is a physician. Doctors treating the wound in 1969 decided to leave the shrapnel in place. "One piece of shrapnel is about the size of a bullet, the other a bit smaller," Dr. Doyle said.

Mr. Kerry said, "I can't tell you I really feel it," but "it's back in here somewhere," as he slapped his thigh.

As a radiologist, my B.S. meter is going off on this one.

I don't care what "Kerry's personal physician" has to say about this CT scan. I want to read the radiologist's report.

Several things sound fishy.

1. CT scans take "slices" only through the area of interest. You don't expose the patient to needless radiation by scanning from head to toe. For a prostate cancer patient, the pelvic CT would extend only to the very top of the "thigh". Where, exactly is this alleged shrapnel?

2. I find it hard to believe that someone could sustain a wound from a shrapnel fragment "the size of a bullet" and only miss one day of duty?

3. Why is "Kerry's personal physician" reading the CT scan for the reporter instead of a radiologist?

Look at the CT below:

Is that a shrapnel fragment in the thigh next to the femur? No. It is Calcific Tendinits of the gluteus maximus tendon. ?

4. The CBS fraud has show how news media reporters and their so-called "expert" can vouch for anything. I want to see these CT images posted on the Internet so that third parties can see this alleged "shrapnel the size of a bullet". Better yet, I want to see the images of the plain films posted on the Internet.

32 posted on 10/02/2004 7:14:43 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Mike Fieschko

Where did the shrapnel come from? Exploding hair dryer? Sitting on a cuticle tool?


33 posted on 10/02/2004 7:36:46 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: dennisw

It`s the New York Slimes, what do you expect? The New York Slimes, cBS, and Kerry can all say whatever they want because they are liberals and liberals get to BS the American public like it`s some law in this country.


34 posted on 10/02/2004 8:02:17 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver ( What`s the difference between Windows XP and John Kerry? Windows XP works once in a while.)
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To: Polybius

You`ll never see the images just like you will never see Kerrys records. Why? Because the press never covers it. I counted at least 5 blatant lies from Kerry in that last debate. You know how many papers covered it? Zero, zilch. The only exception maybe was the New York Post which did an article refuting Kerrys claim that "NYC subways were closed during the Republican convention" which was just an absolute blatant lie. The Transit Authority denied it and I personally can vouch also none were closed (I live in NYC)..But of course Kerry also said the security of this country is worse off, and it`s funny but I can`t seem to recall any other terror attacks in this country since 911, can you?


35 posted on 10/02/2004 8:20:13 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver ( What`s the difference between Windows XP and John Kerry? Windows XP works once in a while.)
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To: Mike Fieschko

Agent Orange....


36 posted on 10/03/2004 1:03:05 PM PDT by traumer
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What an absolute crock. There is no shrapnel.... even Kerry's own stories don't indicate that he got hit in the butt by any metal.... He said RICE. If there is metal in there.... well, Terezzzza better inventory her "marital aids"; Something must have been left behind in Jean Effen Kerrie's behind..
37 posted on 10/03/2004 8:05:42 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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