Skip to comments.Drudge: DEBATE MYSTERY: DID KERRY HAVE CHEAT SHEET?
Posted on 10/03/2004 11:09:24 AM PDT by stockpirateEdited on 10/03/2004 12:01:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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You are correct. What I saw was a banner ad, and those change every time you view the page.
Agree 100%. This is silly talk on our part.
Maybe he was just making sure Kerry stays put so the Dems won't freak out and throw Billary in the mix. Giving him enough rope to hang himself, like. We shall see.
I think it is probley getting tons of hits right now.
Here is the link
a crack pipe?
You misspelled "pocketses".
I don't know why everybody is so excited. It was just his list of nuances.
However if it is cheating ...the common people understand that
Why is it silly? Cheating on an election debate seems like a biggie to me.
AS MUCH AS I HATE TO SAY IT, I THINK HE PULLED OUT HIS PEN...JUST AS PRESIDENT BUSH DID. I DON'T WANT US TO LOOK LIKE FOOLS WHEN THE TAPE IS EXAMINED CLOSER....
Wonder if it was just a hankie, in case he started dripping orange sweat?
Not a surprise coming from you.
What's the story with the Weld debates and cheating?
It would have been delicious if FOX had had a camera overhead looking down on the podiums and had caught FnKerry redhanded going thru a stack of 3x5 cards.
Agree with that, and it could put a big negative back on Kerry. Which would be great.
My point is, there was not any difficult questions in that debate. I am certain GW did not need info cards to help him with his answers. That is not the reason GW did not perform well.
Bush didn't pull out a pen. The pens, pencils and paper were supposed to be already on the lecterns. Bush picked up the pen that was already there.
Once the hits die down, go and look at the videos.
Vindication is sweet.
"If it was lipstick and he didn't have a mirror than we know he wears it often."
He could have used his French cufflinks as a mirror :)
So is there video of JFKerry putting anything back in his pockets at the end of the debate.... He sure would not leave anything behind...
I watched it several times on large screen, it is a folded paper(s) and he unfolds it. Others have said that Bush looked over and got a look at this and had a strange look on his face.
In itself, its probably not the biggest issue of the campaign, but along with other evidence, it shows Kerry's serious character flaws. Throw it out there for the voters to see, preferably with other accompanying evidence. A preponderance of evidence is convincing.
How did he cheat against Weld?
The conservatives are looking for any way to explain Bush's performance. Bush didn't need notes at the debate. I have memorized so many talking points that I was spewing them off during the debate. No excuses for his poor performance. I heard at least a dozen conservatives on the radio explain those talking points better than Bush. It was ridiculous.
Are you kidding me? I detest cheaters. I detest them almost as much as line jumpers and folks who cut me off in traffic. If he cheated I want to know.
DRUDGE has changed his headline to "Debate Mystery: DID KERRY HAVE A CHEAT SHEET?"
I sent it to Drudge too. Looks like we're all out there working to expose John Fraud Kerry for what he really is. A CHEATER AND A FRAUD!!!!!!!!!
Watch the video at this link.
Watch it direct, or save it to your hard drive by right click, Save As, and then watch it.
It's very striking visually. I think this will resonate with the public. You have to watch it. It looks like Kerry is acting very "smooth and sneaky" at the same time as he palms the offending notes in his hand with his back to the audience, then puts them down on the podium
Are we ever going to be really prove he broke the rules? I doubt it. That doesn't mean the question shouldn't be asked, given the circumstantial evidence shown in the video. Look at the forest, or you'll forever be lost and going in circles.
His lipstick and blush. LOL
Nice strawman. I did not say that at all. I said it is silly for us to try and act like that makes up for how GW performed.
Kerry is going to lie and spin. We know this. What is ever ad the DNC puts on the air?? huh? A lie and spin.
Point being, GW should have performed better. He did not lose that debate because Kerry and info cards.
Why don't you go spin how when polling places say they are oversampling republicans because more people identify themselves that way it is fine. Yet, when the reverse happens you call in wrong. Point, being you are consistent when it comes to polling. And that is clear to many people.
Yes, a 4" x 6" rectangular white pen.
Given, the quality on the video Drudge linked to isn't very good. Try this video link, and zoom to Full Screen. You will see very clearly that it is NOT a pen.
www.cspan.org has the video it is about 2 minutes into it that you will see Kerry going to his pocket.
"What a non issue...."
Any chance to tweak or poke Kerry with a stick is appreciated.
I wonder if it was a pair of reading glasses, or did he not use any?
DRUDGE has a quote from the Kerry campaign:
What did Kerry place on the podium?
Video replays of the Kerry maneuver played all weekend long on the internet.
"John Kerry brought prohibited material into last Thursday's Presidential Debate," charged indcjournal.com.
A top Kerry campaign source explained late Sunday how Bush supporters were once again trying to distract.
"Kerry did not cheat," said the Kerry insider. "This is more lies from Republicans, who are hoping for a quick change of subject away from the president's performance, and the new polls."
"No, its a piece of paper. Right click, do fullscreen. Watch on the slow motion. You'll see something white and pretty good sized, and he actually unfolds it."
Tips from Hanoi Jane?
its sickening the state America is in that we could have elected a draft dodging lying rapist twice, and that an american traitor is so close in the Presidential election... if Pres Bush loses, america is lost
Right now, everyone is talking about how bad Bush was. But if Kerry actually cheated, the topic of conversation about the debates would change quickly and everyone could forget about Bush's performance.
I just read the Drudge article. When a Dem starts saying it is "a Republican trick to distract" then you know there is something going on.
But it is a reason for sKerry to perform better than one would expect, which would obviously foreshadow Bush's performance. A debate is a comparison, and generally, ad-lib answers tend to pale compared to a read, rehearsed speech.
I see a couple in the picture that could be pretty dangerous to me...lol
Yes. But it doesn't change the fact that President Bush (aside from his speech) didn't seem very well prepared in the second half of this debate. Substance is what matters in the long-run, and Bush clearly had more if you look through the transcripts. But his lack of coaching and "style" reduced the value of his substance. Bush gave Kerry more than was necessary, despite any cheating Kerry might have done. Now the fact Kerry might have cheated is and issue, but not in the context of debate performance. Let Kerry cheat in a debate: If Bush was better prepared, it wouldn't have mattered all that much.
So take it out of an argument about debate performance; combine it with Newsweek's loaded poll (too many republicans last time, too many democrats this time, for obvious reasons) and we have a story about how democrats cheat.
We all agree that Bush didn't do well. But that's not the point. If Kerry cheated, there's a significant problem here, and one that the American people should know about.
At first I thought it was a crack pipe or possibly a pocket knife in case they got into hand to hand combat, but after looking at it a few times I think it might just be a watch. Doesn't look like papers to me.
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