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Drudge: DEBATE MYSTERY: DID KERRY HAVE CHEAT SHEET?
Drudge ^ | October 3, 2004 | Video

Posted on 10/03/2004 11:09:24 AM PDT by stockpirate

Edited on 10/03/2004 12:01:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: stockpirate

What has its gots in its pocket, my preciousss?


51 posted on 10/03/2004 11:17:39 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (That which does not kill me had better be able to run away damn fast.)
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To: haywoodwebb

Good likeness of Kerry!


52 posted on 10/03/2004 11:17:43 AM PDT by snopercod ("I'm so proud to be a part of this great mass deception" --Frank Zappa)
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To: for-q-clinton
We wont LET them shrug it off. ;-)


Just like we didn't let blather get away with shrugging off forged documents.
53 posted on 10/03/2004 11:17:52 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: John Jorsett

Somebody photoshop a crack pipe in there and send it to CBS. Dan just might run with it.

Kerry Crack Habit Gives Him Leg Up in Debate.


54 posted on 10/03/2004 11:17:55 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: stockpirate

Looks like he cheating again like he did against Weld


55 posted on 10/03/2004 11:18:13 AM PDT by skaterboy
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To: stockpirate

Please include original titles.
Thanks.


56 posted on 10/03/2004 11:19:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: stockpirate

Im glad to see this.....it was stated that they could not bring pen or paper...it had to be ON the podium before they arrived.....
if he's cheated he needs to be called on it....hes nothing but an arrogant liar anyways.....rules never apply to him or "them"


57 posted on 10/03/2004 11:19:29 AM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: for-q-clinton

Per the debate rules, signed off by both Campaigns:

No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings
or other tangible things may be brought into the
debate by any candidate. Neither candidate may
reference or cite any specific individual sitting in a
debate audience at any time during a debate. If a
candidate references or cites any specific
individual(s) in a debate audience, or if a candidate
uses a prop, note, or other writing or other tangible
thing during a debate, the moderator must interrupt
and explain that reference or citation to the specific
individual(s) or the use of the prop, note, or other
writing or thing violates the debate rules agreed to
by that candidate.

http://www.npr.org/documents/2004/2004.debate/debate_memo.pdf


58 posted on 10/03/2004 11:19:38 AM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: P-Marlowe

If Kerry cheated, I am withdrawing my vote for him for President of the debate team.


59 posted on 10/03/2004 11:20:19 AM PDT by ShandaLear (Senator Kerry for President of the Debate Team.)
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To: mabelkitty

The tagline needs to match the posting


60 posted on 10/03/2004 11:20:21 AM PDT by skaterboy
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To: stockpirate

But I understand they were each allowed to bring a piece of paper and a pencil. It might just have been that.


61 posted on 10/03/2004 11:21:10 AM PDT by jwalburg (Anti-Daschle gear: http://www.cafepress.com/southdakotapdq)
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To: ArmyBratCutie

Here is what Drudge wrote:

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN OCT 03, 2004 14:05:38 ET XXXXX

DEBATE MYSTERY: WHAT DID KERRY SLIP OUT OF HIS POCKET? Section 5, pages 4-5 of the binding "Memorandum of Understanding" that was negotiated and agreed upon by both political campaigns states: "No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by either candidate.... Each candidate must submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the debate all such paper and any pens or pencils with which a candidate may wish to take notes during the debate, and the staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium..." So what did Dem presidential contender John Kerry take out of his jacket as he approached the stage [with his back to the auditorium's audience]? What did Kerry place on the podium? Video replays of the Kerry maneuver played all weekend long on the internet. "John Kerry brought prohibited material into last Thursday's Presidential Debate," charged indcjournal.com.


62 posted on 10/03/2004 11:21:12 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: stockpirate

So noted many times on FR JFKerry gave a speech....

So President Bush won, he did not cheat or lie!


63 posted on 10/03/2004 11:21:18 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: stockpirate

BTTT


64 posted on 10/03/2004 11:21:54 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: stockpirate
It was a notepad I noticed sKerry making notes several times when Bush was talking. But there may have been notes in the thing before the debate started.

I thought the candidates were to be bare handed during the debates?

65 posted on 10/03/2004 11:22:45 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: for-q-clinton

Yes it was against the rules to being anything into the debate


Debate rules.........

c) No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by either candidate.


...


(d) Notwithstanding subparagraph 5(c), the candidates may take notes during the debate on the size, color and type of paper each side prefers. Each candidate must submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the debate all such paper and any pens or pencils with which a candidate may wish to take notes during the debate, and the staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium, table or other structure to be used by the candidate in that debate.


66 posted on 10/03/2004 11:22:47 AM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: jwalburg

The writing materials were already on the lecterns, placed there by the moderators. They could take notes with the materials provided, but could not bring ANYTHING into the debate.


67 posted on 10/03/2004 11:22:51 AM PDT by livius
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To: jwalburg

No, they had to give the paper and pencil to the debate staff and they would place them on the podium..


68 posted on 10/03/2004 11:23:24 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: stockpirate

I sent the following to Drudge:

John Kerry apparently cheated at the debate. For the visual evidence of him taking something out of his pocket (prohibited by the rules), take a look at the video you can find here:
http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/001054.php


69 posted on 10/03/2004 11:23:32 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Fiddlstix

It's Sunday and he needs something to talk about on his show tonight.


70 posted on 10/03/2004 11:23:48 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Kerry: how can we trust him with our money, if Teresa won't trust him with hers!)
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To: jwalburg

They weren't allowed to put anything on the podium.

"Each candidate must submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the debate all such paper and any pens or pencils with which a candidate may wish to take notes during the debate, and the staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium..."


71 posted on 10/03/2004 11:23:51 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: GOPJ

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUN OCT 03, 2004 14:05:38 ET XXXXX

DEBATE MYSTERY: WHAT DID KERRY SLIP OUT OF HIS POCKET?

Section 5, pages 4-5 of the binding "Memorandum of Understanding" that was negotiated and agreed upon by both political campaigns states:

"No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by either candidate.... Each candidate must submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the debate all such paper and any pens or pencils with which a candidate may wish to take notes during the debate, and the staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium..."

So what did Dem presidential contender John Kerry take out of his jacket as he approached the stage [with his back to the auditorium's audience]? What did Kerry place on the podium?

Video replays of the Kerry maneuver played all weekend long on the internet.

"John Kerry brought prohibited material into last Thursday's Presidential Debate," charged indcjournal.com.

MORE



Filed By Matt Drudge
Reports are moved when circumstances warrant


72 posted on 10/03/2004 11:24:07 AM PDT by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo for President/Jeff Flake VP 2004!)
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To: stockpirate

As soon as I saw this at INDC this morning I posted it on FR and sent the info along to Drudge. Ya got to love it!!


73 posted on 10/03/2004 11:24:08 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: livius

Ahhh. Now that changes things. Good for Drudge.


74 posted on 10/03/2004 11:24:09 AM PDT by jwalburg (Anti-Daschle gear: http://www.cafepress.com/southdakotapdq)
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To: John Jorsett

be careful you make sense and your tag line plays too well on words.


75 posted on 10/03/2004 11:24:23 AM PDT by q_an_a
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Now Drudge has the photo and the link to the video at http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/001054.php.


76 posted on 10/03/2004 11:25:17 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: stockpirate

I love the contrasting pics of Bush and Kerry on Drudge's home page.


77 posted on 10/03/2004 11:26:48 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: shield

I did see him with what appeared to be small index cards. Maybe he tore the 8-1/2 x 11 sheets into smaller pieces


78 posted on 10/03/2004 11:26:49 AM PDT by jimboster
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To: stockpirate

Cheater! Everything he does is so scummy.


79 posted on 10/03/2004 11:26:49 AM PDT by katdawg
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To: stockpirate

amen!!
its TIME the DAYUM RULES are applied to BOTH PARTIES for a change....
remember we are going to DOG the MSM and MAKE them stop treating us like we are FOOLS, one story at a time...Rather has given us 2, so this is #3 to me!!


80 posted on 10/03/2004 11:26:49 AM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: All

I'm sure the MSM will investigate and report this promptly. Sarcasm.


81 posted on 10/03/2004 11:27:05 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: stockpirate

"DEBATE MYSTERY: WHAT DID KERRY SLIP OUT OF HIS POCKET?"

Nail file, lip stick, comb, beauty cream or some orange rub?


82 posted on 10/03/2004 11:27:08 AM PDT by Gucho
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To: ShandaLear

He is a Democrat, as a matter of course they cheat. They know no other way. They breath they cheat.


83 posted on 10/03/2004 11:27:44 AM PDT by PROTESTBYPROXY
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To: All

Doesn't it make sense that it was probably Kerry's team that asked for the "no notes" rule?

They think Bush needs prompting and can't think for himself.

So it wasn't just "cheating" it was a "set up"?

84 posted on 10/03/2004 11:27:51 AM PDT by IMRight ("Eye" See BS)
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To: Gucho

If it was lipstick and he didn't have a mirror than we know he wears it often.


85 posted on 10/03/2004 11:28:19 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: stockpirate

Democrats are either pulling stuff out of their pockets or stuffing stuff into their pants... just ask Sandy Berger...


86 posted on 10/03/2004 11:28:31 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Global Tests in the defense of our Country are not supported by the CONSTITUTION.)
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To: Libertina

As with just about everything else John Fraud Kerry has done in his life -- he signed on to do something and then knowingly and willfully broke the rules for his own personal advantage.

Like father -- Gigolo Dick married a rich Forbes woman -- like son -- Gigolo John married TWO rich women -- a rich Thorne woman and an even richer Mozambiquan (that is, from a communist country) woman who married to become rich!


87 posted on 10/03/2004 11:28:44 AM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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To: SauronOfMordor
What has its gots in its pocket, my preciousss?

Nope. I was safely watching from home. LOL.

88 posted on 10/03/2004 11:28:48 AM PDT by myprecious
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To: conservativecorner

Drudge linked to them, and the site went down. ;-) Need some more bandwidth, poor things.

IF it can be proven, then doesn't the charge 'KERRY CHEATED' hold some weight? My caveat is, only if it can be proven. Don't want to charge this without serious proof, otherwise we'd be like those DU conspiracy types.

My own deep down feeling is he had the questions beforehand.


89 posted on 10/03/2004 11:28:52 AM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: for-q-clinton
But even so, what's the point? Is it wrong to bring a note card? I really don't know and am curious. I think most people will just shrug it off.

The candidates were specifically forbidden, by mutual agreement, to bring no notes into the debate. They were allowed blank paper and a pencil or pen, pre-screened by the debate officials. The pencil and paper were already screened and awaited each candidate at the podium. Pre-written material is cheating, just as hiding notes during a test is cheating.

90 posted on 10/03/2004 11:28:53 AM PDT by meyer (Proud member of the Pajamarazzi!)
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To: stockpirate

Any other link to the video?

That site seems to be down.


91 posted on 10/03/2004 11:29:00 AM PDT by USA_Soccer (Try a better (free + open source) browser -> Mozilla Firefox @ mozilla.org)
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To: js1138

I don't see any of Bush. Five pics of Kerry (all dorky).


92 posted on 10/03/2004 11:29:13 AM PDT by arichtaxpayer (We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.)
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To: IMRight
If Kerry can't follow the debate rules, how will he follow the summit rules? Or the UN rules? Or the World Test rules?
93 posted on 10/03/2004 11:29:33 AM PDT by lunatic12
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To: Technical Editor

YOu are kinda late we pinged Drudge and he has posted it.


94 posted on 10/03/2004 11:29:36 AM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: 95Tarheel
Kerry pulled Jim's list of questions out of his pocket!

Along with the answers that he jotted down during his "manicure".

95 posted on 10/03/2004 11:29:45 AM PDT by meyer (Proud member of the Pajamarazzi!)
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To: stockpirate

Answers to the questions he had BEFORE hand?


96 posted on 10/03/2004 11:29:46 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Lunkhead_01

The thing about removing the lights at the beginning probably focused everyone's attention on them. We were looking to see if they were there and not looking to see what Kerry was doing.


97 posted on 10/03/2004 11:30:01 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: stockpirate

Yes, a significant cheat. The debate rules prohibited charts, notes or "other tangible things"... the only items allowed at the podium were blank paper and pens examined by and placed on the podium by the Commission ahead of time.


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/election2004/story/C1109D12883D821A86256F1F00165296?OpenDocument&Headline=The+debate+rules

http://www.indystar.com/articles/7/181731-1407-010.html


98 posted on 10/03/2004 11:30:30 AM PDT by Tamzee (Ted Koppel --- "....the media will need a stepstool to rise to the level of used car salesmen.")
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To: tomnbeverly
Democrats are either pulling stuff out of their pockets or stuffing stuff into their pants... just ask Sandy Berger...

Or Bill Clinton ...talk about stuff in his pants

99 posted on 10/03/2004 11:31:29 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Drango
What a non issue....

And just how do you figure that??!

If Kerry brought a lil' cheat sheet to refer to, then that would give him a distinct advantage.

100 posted on 10/03/2004 11:31:39 AM PDT by bikepacker67 (Sandy wasn't stuffing his socks, he was stuffing A sock.)
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