Skip to comments.Conservative group targets Bush over immigration
Posted on 10/03/2004 9:47:51 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder
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You read my mind.
I think if this issue was different --- and Bush wasn't catering to Vicente Fox's every demands, that Bush would be looking at huge landslides in this election. Most people are much more satisfied and secure with Bush's stance on terrorism than they are with Kerry. This shouldn't be even a close election --- Kerry really has little going for him, not even a hint of charm or personality. If Bush loses the election, it will be on this one issue --- and it's too bad that he can't see that.
Wow, look at all that economic activity.
Bush can easily switch policies to match majority of citizens desires, or he can tear up the Republican party. His choice.
- and has delegated residency documentation authority to Mexican diplomatic officers, allowing them to issue unlimited numbers of "Matricula" ID cards to illegals.
What A surprise...NOT! I've heard this for many years now, especially in the last 4 and Bush, I suspect, has a big surprise in store for him. He's gone so far left as to make the democrat alternative no longer a scary threat. This is no small feat.
I understand your position.
But what about us? What about our country?
The equivilant of 3 major cities a year of illegal aliens are now pouring into our country. Besides amnesty, does President Bush have an immediate plan to deal with this after the election?
Will we be told again in four years to wait until after the election is over?
How do you feel about being outed as an illegal immigration cheerleader?
You had your referendum in the Kolbe primary last month and you lost two to one. The vast majority of conservatives aren't fooled by the Buchanan/Tancredo hate propaganda.
During this time of terrorist threats? An American President?? I hope some of the apologists can explain this.
Do you realize that accusing everyone concerned about massive runaway immigration and the huge costs associated with it on the taxpayers -- not to mention loss of our sovreignty and all the rest of just being Nazis isn't at all helpful to the cause --- trying to get Bush elected so that Kerry isn't in the White House. It's actually a serious issue that anyone living in areas of high immigration can actually see --- and it really doesn't matter their ethnic heritage when they are faced with skyrocketing property taxes and high crime rates.
A poor quality candidate like Kerry shouldn't even be giving Bush a run for his money --- Bush is pretty much fine on most of the issues as far as Conservatives go --- he should be winning by a landslide but apparently that might not be the case. I can't tell by what I see first hand.
Can't wait until all those pesky open spaces are gone and we can finally share in the economic activity and progress enjoyed now by the lucky residents of Calcutta, Manila, and Mexico City.
Of course you are speaking from the position of someone who has actually bragged on here about hiring illegals yourself. Anyone who hires illegals is after a quick dime for themselves and to hell with the taxpayers who have to pay for all the needed services. It's all about money and fast profits for a few.
People going against voting for Bush on this one issue is retarded though.
Yep, it's a huge issue, but putting Kerry in would not make it better.
Voting a lame vote like libertarian would enable Democrats.
Nope, that bill of goods needs to be sold at DU this election, not here.
Yes they are, but that's not the way it works in the real world.
If there's a squabble about immigration before the election Kerry may get enough votes to win, and then he'd make things worse. The Dems would love to get more Mexicans here to put on the welfare roles, and vote Democratic. Kerry would most likely open the border up more than it is now.
We all know Bush's position on immigration. He has a "thing" going with Mexico's President Fox, and the best way to stop immigration is after the election. Kerry would only make things worse.
I know. But when certain types --- including those who we know actually have lined their own pockets by breaking laws to hire illegals come along and start their taunts, it doesn't help get Bush elected. There needs to be some serious discussion about the effects of voting third party or not -- and some honesty about if this will be a close election or the predicted landslide for Bush. In a landslide for Bush it's one thing to vote for the third party guy -- but if it's closer than we're being told --- then it might be something to reconsider.
No, it's not because they have "brown faces"! It's the fact that so many of these people with "brown faces" are in the United States illegally!
No, Joe. That would entail honesty, integrity and courage. The 3 things missing in today's republican leadership. Their mantra is "we will fix it AFTER the election". AFTER you vote us in AGAIN. All their credibility is gone. Like you said--Things have to change NOW.
You know darned well that you have knowingly hired illegals --- I don't remember the thread but I did read it --- it's one of those things one obviously tucks away in their mind --- there are others too -- and once you know someone gains financially from breaking the law, you know where they're coming from.
To FReepers like bayourod, speaking out against illegal immigration has everything to do with race and nothing to do with the law.
Not sure what you are implying here, but perhaps the reason it appears there is no landslide, which indeed there should be is the fact that the dems have been waging a full court press attack on this man for the past 3+ years accusing him of everything evil known to man without much chance for rebuttal.
When you employ illegals, you're thinking more about what's going to get you quick profits and you aren't likely to mind at all that Socialized medicine is just around the corner --- just so you don't have to pay decent wages or offer insurance group plans.
No you didn't. I'm still waiting for the link.
The anti-Bush thirds party Buchanan/Tancredo are getting as desperate as the Kerry/Hollywood?Old Media crowd and will not hesitate to lie and deceive to defeat President Bush.
Friends of the Border Patrol
P.O. Box 5250
Buena Park, CA 90622-5250
Ron Prince, Chairman
Glynn Custred, Vice Chairman
Andy Ramirez, Executive Director
Jim Stockdale, Consultant
Press Release 3: Bush's Obruction of Justice
Aiding Illegal Aliens and Terrorists
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Conservatives Slam Phony War On Terror
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This exchange with Sabertooth makes a good starting point.
I could add a few others, but what's the use? Anything that privatizes profits and socializes costs is good.
I'm implying that this is the one big issue that divides Conservatives and Republicans --- someone obviously benefits by massive levels of immigration but the average Conservative isn't benefitting by it. I don't know if it's a landslide for Bush or a close election --- I've read both predictions. If it's close --- with a guy like Kerry (loser)--- I think some things were done wrong.
The many benefits of run away immigration: Did you pull that talking point off of the anti-producer and anti-consumer and anti-capitalist Sierra Club website?!No, I pulled it from my own first-hand experience with wreckless immigration.
Now you're claiming you don't hire illegals?
Thanks --- I guess "currently" isn't employing them. It's just so hard to keep good help when you're paying people ridiculously low wages and no benefits.
I thought you'd like that. Even the illegals don't like working for Master LeGree.
I thought you'd like that. Even the illegals don't like working for Master LeGree.
LOL. Only a partisan hack can think in these terms. It's been an unrelenting bipartisan mud fight for at least 12 years on both sides. I was more than happy to sling mud at Clinton for years on FR but it is disingenuous to say that the republicans haven't done the same to the democrat nominees.
You know I just LOVE being an Independent Conservative these days. My vote is now up for sale to the highest bidder. If you are truly conservative...free your mind to all possibilities.
There should be a landslide -- the democrats should have been destroyed after the best they could do was Clinton, then Gore --- and the last presidential election saw the White House, the Congress, and the Senate get Republican wins and majorities. Also the majority of governors winning were Republicans in that election. This might be --- I can't tell --- but it should be a landslide for Bush.
" If we don't like Bush's border policys, we will HATE sKerry's."
The outcome will be the same. It'll just take a little longer under Bush. I am forced to vote for Bush since he is the lesser of the two evils but either way, I am still voting for evil.
It was given in post #79.
" How do the members of your group feel about being publicly outed?"
Get over it, Bayourod-
Im not anti-Bush- Im anti illegal alien - Comprende?
Being from CA CJ, I can tell you that they are not the issue at least in my state. It's probably a 94% Mexican problem, so checking out Mexicans that look out of place would be the way to catch a vast majority.
Third party voting is a vote for Democrats in actuality. Unless you can talk Democrats into voting third party of course.
There are a couple of democrat Congressmen in Texas now jumping on this issue of the border. Well --- Silvestre Reyes has been on the issue a number of times previously and it's the one issue that got him to Congress in the first place even though he almost always shuts up and does whatever his democrat bosses tell him he must do.
Texas Congressmen propose $1 billion program to secure border
September 11, 2004
One billion dollars. Thats what two Texas congressmen estimate it will cost to establish an infrastructure investment fund specifically aimed at closing security gaps and bolstering the economy along the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border.
The two, Rep. Jim Turner, D-Crockett, and Rep. Silvestre Reyes, D-El Paso, said they would introduce legislation in Congress to transform the southern border.
Turner, a ranking member of the Select Committee on Homeland Security, said the legislation would take bold action to ensure that we enhance security without hindering commerce. The proposal comes after a six-month investigation of the U.S.-Mexico border, which Turner described as porous and susceptible to terrorist infiltration.
Well, when you're comparing 10+ million Mexican illegal aliens with a combined number of Irish, Swedish, and Canadian illegal aliens that probably totals in the tens of thousands, who do you think Americans are going to complain about most?
Yes --- and it's a democrat like Kerry --- we need to really think about the consequences of voting third party. If Bush is facing a landslide anyhow -- then voting third party to send a message is one thing -- but if it's a close election it's another thing.
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