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Exclusive: Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror Ties
CNSNews ^ | October 4, 2004 | Scott Wheeler

Posted on 10/04/2004 7:14:43 AM PDT by Quilla

Iraqi intelligence documents, confiscated by U.S. forces and obtained by CNSNews.com , show numerous efforts by Saddam Hussein's regime to work with some of the world's most notorious terror organizations, including al Qaeda, to target Americans. They demonstrate that Saddam's government possessed mustard gas and anthrax, both considered weapons of mass destruction, in the summer of 2000, during the period in which United Nations weapons inspectors were not present in Iraq. And the papers show that Iraq trained dozens of terrorists inside its borders.

One of the Iraqi memos contains an order from Saddam for his intelligence service to support terrorist attacks against Americans in Somalia. The memo was written nine months before U.S. Army Rangers were ambushed in Mogadishu by forces loyal to a warlord with alleged ties to al Qaeda.

Other memos provide a list of terrorist groups with whom Iraq had relationships and considered available for terror operations against the United States.

Among the organizations mentioned are those affiliated with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Ayman al-Zawahiri, two of the world's most wanted terrorists. Zarqawi is believed responsible for the kidnapping and beheading of several American civilians in Iraq and claimed responsibility for a series of deadly bombings in Iraq Sept. 30. Al-Zawahiri is the top lieutenant of al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, allegedly helped plan the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist strikes on the U.S., and is believed to be the voice on an audio tape broadcast by Al-Jazeera television Oct. 1, calling for attacks on U.S. and British interests everywhere.

The source of the documents

A senior government official who is not a political appointee provided CNSNews.com with copies of the 42 pages of Iraqi Intelligence Service documents. The originals, some of which were hand-written and others typed are in Arabic. CNSNews.com had the papers translated into English by two individuals separately and independent of each other.

There are no hand-writing samples to which the documents can be compared for forensic analysis and authentication. However, three other experts - a former weapons inspector with the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), a retired CIA counter-terrorism official with vast experience dealing with Iraq, and a former advisor to then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton on Iraq - were asked to analyze the documents. All said they comport with the format, style and content of other Iraqi documents from that era known to be genuine.

Laurie Mylroie, who authored the book, "Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished War against America," and advised Clinton on Iraq during the 1992 presidential campaign, told CNSNews.com that the papers represent "the most complete set of documents relating Iraq to terrorism, including Islamic terrorism" against the U.S.

Mylroie has long maintained that Iraq was a state sponsor of terrorism against the United States. The documents obtained by CNSNews.com , she said, include "correspondence back and forth between Saddam's office and Iraqi Mukhabarat (intelligence agency). They make sense. This is what one would think Saddam was doing at the time."

Bruce Tefft, a retired CIA official who specialized in counter-terrorism and had extensive experience dealing with Iraq, said that "based on available, unclassified and open source information, the details in these documents are accurate ..."

The former UNSCOM inspector zeroed in on the signatures on the documents and "the names of some of the people who sign off on these things.

"This is fairly typical of that time era. [The Iraqis] were meticulous record keepers," added the former U.N. official, who spoke with CNSNews.com on the condition of anonymity.

The senior government official, who furnished the documents to CNSNews.com, said the papers answer "whether or not Iraq was a state sponsor of Islamic terrorism against the United States. It also answers whether or not Iraq had an ongoing biological warfare project continuing through the period when the UNSCOM inspections ended."

Presidential campaign focused on Iraq

The presidential campaign is currently dominated by debate over whether Saddam procured weapons of mass destruction and/or whether his government sponsored terrorism aimed at Americans before the U.S. invaded Iraq last year. Democratic nominee Sen. John Kerry has repeatedly rejected that possibility and criticized President Bush for needlessly invading Iraq.

"[Bush's] two main rationales - weapons of mass destruction and the al Qaeda/September 11 (2001) connection - have been proved false ... by the president's own weapons inspectors ... and by the 9/11 Commission," Kerry told an audience at New York University on Sept. 20.

The Senate Intelligence Committee's probe of the 9/11 intelligence failures also could not produce any definitive links between Saddam's government and 9/11. And United Nations as well as U.S. weapons inspectors in Iraq have been unable to find the biological and chemical weapons Saddam was suspected of possessing.

But the documents obtained by CNSNews.com shed new light on the controversy.

They detail the Iraqi regime's purchase of five kilograms of mustard gas on Aug. 21, 2000 and three vials of malignant pustule, another term for anthrax, on Sept. 6, 2000. The purchase order for the mustard gas includes gas masks, filters and rubber gloves. The order for the anthrax includes sterilization and decontamination equipment. (See Saddam's Possession of Mustard Gas)

The documents show that Iraqi intelligence received the mustard gas and anthrax from "Saddam's company," which Tefft said was probably a reference to Saddam General Establishment, "a complex of factories involved with, amongst other things, precision optics, missile, and artillery fabrication."

"Sa'ad's general company" is listed on the Iraqi documents as the supplier of the sterilization and decontamination equipment that accompanied the anthrax vials. Tefft believes this is a reference to the Salah Al-Din State Establishment, also involved in missile construction. (See Saddam's Possession of Anthrax)

The Jaber Ibn Hayan General Company is listed as the supplier of the safety equipment that accompanied the mustard gas order. Tefft described the company as "a 'turn-key' project built by Romania, designed to produce protective CW (conventional warfare) and BW (biological warfare) equipment (gas masks and protective clothing)."

"Iraq had an ongoing biological warfare project continuing through the period when the UNSCOM inspections ended," the senior government official and source of the documents said. "This should cause us to redouble our efforts to find the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction programs."

'Hunt the Americans'

The first of the 42 pages of Iraqi documents is dated Jan. 18, 1993, approximately two years after American troops defeated Saddam's army in the first Persian Gulf War. The memo includes Saddam's directive that "the party should move to hunt the Americans who are on Arabian land, especially in Somalia, by using Arabian elements ..."

On Oct. 3, 1993, less than nine months after that Iraqi memo was written, American soldiers were ambushed in Mogadishu, Somalia by forces loyal to Somali warlord Mohammed Farah Aidid, an alleged associate of Osama bin Laden. Eighteen Americans were killed and 84 wounded during a 17-hour firefight that followed the ambush in which Aidid's followers used civilians as decoys. (See Saddam's Connections to al Qaeda)

An 11-page Iraqi memo, dated Jan. 25, 1993, lists Palestinian, Sudanese and Asian terrorist organizations and the relationships Iraq had with each of them. Of particular importance, Tefft said, are the relationships Iraq had already developed or was in the process of developing with groups and individuals affiliated with al Qaeda, such as Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Ayman al-Zawahiri. The U.S. currently is offering rewards of up to $25 million for each man's capture.

The documents describe Al-Jehad wa'l Tajdeed as "a secret Palestinian organization" founded after the first Persian Gulf War that "believes in armed struggle against U.S. and western interests." The leaders of the group, according to the Iraqi memo, were stationed in Jordan in 1993, and when one of those leaders visited Iraq in November 1992, he "showed the readiness of his organization to execute operations against U.S. interests at any time." (See More Saddam Connections to al Qaeda)

Tefft believes the Tajdeed group likely included al-Zarqawi, whom Teft described as "our current terrorist nemesis" in Iraq, "a Palestinian on a Jordanian passport who was with al Qaeda and bin Laden in Afghanistan prior to this period (1993)."

Tajdeed, which means Islamic Renewal, currently "has a website that posts Zarqawi's speeches, messages, claims of assassinations and beheading videos," Tefft told CNSNews.com. "The apparent linkages are too close to be accidental" and might "be one of the first operational contacts between an al Qaeda group and Iraq," he added.

Tefft said the documents, all of which the Iraqi Intelligence Service labeled "Top secret, personal and urgent" show several links between Saddam's government and terror groups dedicated not only to targeting America but also U.S. allies like Egypt and Israel.

The same 11-page memo refers to the "re-opening of the relationship" with Al-Jehad al-Islamy, which is described as "the most violent in Egypt," responsible for the 1981 assassination of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat. The documents go on to describe a Dec. 14, 1990 meeting between Iraqi intelligence officials and a representative of Al-Jehad al-Islamy, that ended in an agreement "to move against [the] Egyptian regime by doing martyr operations on conditions that we should secure the finance, training and equipments." (See More Saddam Connections to al Qaeda)

Al-Zawahiri was one of the leaders of Jehad al-Islamy, which is also known as the Egyptian Islamic Group, and participated in the assassination of Sadat, Tefft said. "Iraq's contact with the Egyptian Islamic Group is another operational contact between Iraq and al Qaeda," he added.

One of the Asian groups listed on the Iraqi intelligence memo is J.U.I., also known as the Islamic Clerks Society. The group is currently led by Mawlana Fadhel al-Rahman, whom Tefft said is "an al Qaeda member and co-signed Osama bin Laden's 1998 fatwa (religious ruling) to kill Americans." The Iraqi memo from 1993 states that J.U.I.'s secretary general "has a good relationship with our system since 1981 and he is ready for any mission." Tefft said the memo shows "another direct Iraq link to an al Qaeda group."

Iraq had also maintained a relationship with the Afghani Islamist party since 1989, according to the memo. The "relationship was improved and became directly between the leader, Hekmatyar and Iraq," it states, referring to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, an Afghani warlord who fought against the Soviet Union and current al Qaeda ally, according to Tefft.

Last year, American authorities in Afghanistan ranked Hekmatyar third on their most wanted list, behind only bin Laden and former Taliban leader Mullah Omar. Hekmatyar represents "another Iraqi link to an al Qaeda group," Tefft said. (See More Saddam Connections to al Qaeda)

The Iraqi intelligence documents also refer to terrorist groups previously believed to have had links with Saddam Hussein. They include the Palestine Liberation Front, a group dedicated to attacking Israel, and according to the Iraqi memo, one with "an office in Baghdad."

The Abu Nidal group, suspected by the CIA of having acted as surrogates for Iraqi terrorist attacks, is also mentioned.

"The movement believes in political violence and assassinations," the 1993 Iraqi memo states in reference to the Abu Nidal organization. "We have relationships with them since 1973. Currently, they have a representative in the country. Monthly helps are given to them -- 20 thousand dinars - in addition to other supports," the memo explains. (See Saddam's Connections to Palestinian Terror Groups)

Iraq not only built and maintained relationships with terrorist groups, the documents show it appears to have trained terrorists as well. Ninety-two individuals from various Middle Eastern countries are listed on the papers.

Many are described as having "finished the course at M14," a reference to an Iraqi intelligence agency, and to having "participated in Umm El-Ma'arek," the Iraqi response to the U.S. invasion in 1991. The author of the list notes that approximately half of the individuals "all got trained inside the 'martyr act camp' that belonged to our directorate."

The former UNSCOM weapons inspector who was asked to analyze the documents believes it's clear that the Iraqis "were training people there in assassination and suicide bombing techniques ... including non-Iraqis."

Bush administration likely unaware of documents' existence

The senior government official and source of the Iraqi intelligence memos, explained that the reason the documents have not been made public before now is that the government has "thousands and thousands of documents waiting to be translated.

"It is unlikely they even know this exists," the source added.

The government official also explained that the motivation for leaking the documents, "is strictly national security and helping with the war on terrorism by focusing this country's attention on facts and away from political posturing.

"This is too important to let it get caught up in the political process," the source told CNSNews.com.

To protect against the Iraqi intelligence documents being altered or misrepresented elsewhere on the Internet, CNSNews.com has decided to publish only the first of the 42 pages in Arabic, along with the English translation. Portions of some of the other memos in translated form are also being published to accompany this report. Credentialed journalists and counter-terrorism experts seeking to view the 42 pages of Arabic documents or to challenge their authenticity may make arrangements to do so at CNSNews.com headquarters in Alexandria, Va.


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Well, it is October after all.
1 posted on 10/04/2004 7:14:43 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla

bump


2 posted on 10/04/2004 7:17:25 AM PDT by mnehring (cBS- Fourth Column, Fifth Estate, Disinformers)
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To: Quilla

Please, Saddam had no WMDs or terror ties. Haven't you been watching the news.


3 posted on 10/04/2004 7:17:44 AM PDT by TBall
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To: Quilla

Do we now understand why CBS went forward with obviously forged letters? Disinformatzia?


4 posted on 10/04/2004 7:19:16 AM PDT by ez (TERRORISTS FOR KERRY!!!)
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To: TBall
Dan Rather will surely open his program with this statement tonight:

But the documents obtained by CNSNews.com shed new light on the controversy.

They detail the Iraqi regime's purchase of five kilograms of mustard gas on Aug. 21, 2000 and three vials of malignant pustule, another term for anthrax, on Sept. 6, 2000. The purchase order for the mustard gas includes gas masks, filters and rubber gloves. The order for the anthrax includes sterilization and decontamination equipment. (See Saddam's Possession of Mustard Gas)

5 posted on 10/04/2004 7:20:03 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla

Not saying anything until this hits the MSM. I've seen too many of these kind of articles hit conservative news forums and disappear into the woodwork. I've gotten disappointed too many times.


6 posted on 10/04/2004 7:20:22 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: TBall

That's right! Don't you know that "THERE WERE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ". It's true. John Kerry has told us so.


7 posted on 10/04/2004 7:20:49 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: jimfrommaine
jim: here's a good'un! You can bookmark and start your own archive.

How you making out w/ the other info?

8 posted on 10/04/2004 7:21:12 AM PDT by dasboot (<img src="XXX">)
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To: areafiftyone

I agree.


9 posted on 10/04/2004 7:21:36 AM PDT by funkywbr
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To: Quilla

bookmark


10 posted on 10/04/2004 7:21:39 AM PDT by tentmaker
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To: areafiftyone

That's right. Until the MSM says it's so, it ain't so!


11 posted on 10/04/2004 7:22:01 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: LibFreeUSA
Right after he said this in January of 2003, no doubt:

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." -- Sen. John F. Kerry

12 posted on 10/04/2004 7:23:16 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla
The source of the documents

A senior government official who is not a political appointee provided CNSNews.com with copies of the 42 pages of Iraqi Intelligence Service documents. The originals, some of which were hand-written and others typed are in Arabic. CNSNews.com had the papers translated into English by two individuals separately and independent of each other.

There are no hand-writing samples to which the documents can be compared for forensic analysis and authentication. However, three other experts - a former weapons inspector with the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), a retired CIA counter-terrorism official with vast experience dealing with Iraq, and a former advisor to then-presidential candidate Bill Clinton on Iraq - were asked to analyze the documents. All said they comport with the format, style and content of other Iraqi documents from that era known to be genuine.

That's just not enough for Dan Rather to run with.

13 posted on 10/04/2004 7:24:28 AM PDT by TigersEye (Muslims and Democrats kill babies for fun and profit.)
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To: Quilla
Ssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Must ... not ... speak ... of ... this ...

Happened during the Clintonista era.

Proof nuance and style trump substance.

14 posted on 10/04/2004 7:25:01 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: Quilla

bttt


15 posted on 10/04/2004 7:25:13 AM PDT by Mother Mary
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To: Quilla
The sad thing is that Kerrry, being on the intelligence committee, probably knows all this already.

But because it is classified (and won't be made public) he knows he can make all the claims he wants to the contrary.

Democrats political hacks have done the same thing before.

16 posted on 10/04/2004 7:26:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: Quilla
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17 posted on 10/04/2004 7:26:09 AM PDT by crushelits
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To: LibFreeUSA

I'm not saying it isn't so but what I am saying is that alot of Americans don't read the conservative news websites and are not as well informed as we are. They depend and rely on regular mainstream newspapers and news channels for their information. Unless this info is out there they will never know about it and it will have no effect on convincing people that Saddam was dangerous and had Weapons. We all know he was but the mainstream media will never put that out there and I hate to say it but that is where most people get their news.


18 posted on 10/04/2004 7:27:19 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: TigersEye

He needs to bring in the guy who vouched for the Vince Foster "suicide note".


19 posted on 10/04/2004 7:27:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin (We have low inflation and and low unemployment.)
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To: churchillbuff

Why don't you read this and tell us how "concerned" you are that this was the wrong war to fight.


20 posted on 10/04/2004 7:28:41 AM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Quilla

Bump!


21 posted on 10/04/2004 7:29:32 AM PDT by The Mayor (Scripture is meant to give us protection, correction, and direction.)
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To: Quilla
Credentialed journalists and counter-terrorism experts seeking to view

I can't believe that SO MANY . . . at FR are missing this. What they're saying is, bloggers need not apply. There's something not right, there. Because many can speak the language on the web. Many can translate. And many can read.

22 posted on 10/04/2004 7:34:09 AM PDT by sevry
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To: crushelits

You're rushing waaaaaay ahead with all your emails. You're missing the whole point of the story - "Credentialed journalists and counter-terrorism experts seeking to view" - meaning, bloggers need not apply!


23 posted on 10/04/2004 7:35:33 AM PDT by sevry
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To: BenLurkin
The sad thing is that Kerry, being on the intelligence committee, probably knows all this already. But because it is classified (and won't be made public) he knows he can make all the claims he wants to the contrary. Democrats political hacks have done the same thing before.

And IMHO the reason President Bush looked so disgusted with Kerry Thursday night.

24 posted on 10/04/2004 7:35:43 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Quilla

Yeah, right. Find this in the MSM then get back with me. :-)


25 posted on 10/04/2004 7:37:40 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("We will crush Al Qaeda"....Silky Pony)
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To: Quilla
Welcome Infidels...just the kind of news Kerry, Terry McAuliffe, Pelosi or Ted Kennedy truly don’t want you to know about.......so send the article to all your friends.

Warning: GEORGE SOROS’ MONEY IS DIRTY MONEY!

26 posted on 10/04/2004 7:38:45 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Quilla

Yes, but when will the Bush admin actually hold a press conference on these discoveries? Typically, they just sit on these things and let the 'Rats hammer away at them. Other things have been found in the past--I have a long listing of news articles on the findings. No one steps up to the plate to tell the 'rats these things were there. It's more than a little discouraging.


27 posted on 10/04/2004 7:39:03 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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To: Quilla

Kickin'.

October surprise, forsooth......


28 posted on 10/04/2004 7:40:00 AM PDT by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: Rebelbase

Here is CNS's companion article on this story:

Journalistic Methodology Used to Report Details of Saddam's Terror Ties
By David Thibault
CNSNews.com Information Services
October 04, 2004

Forty-two pages of photocopied official Iraqi Intelligence Service documents, some hand-written and some typed in 1993, serve as the basis for Scott Wheeler's article, entitled, "Saddam Possessed WMD, Had Extensive Terror Ties." The memos reflect communication between the Iraqi Intelligence Service and Saddam Hussein, by way of his top assistant, the secretary to the president. Tables indicating the Iraqi regime's possession of mustard gas and anthrax in the summer of 2000 are included in the documents, as is a list of 92 individuals believed to have been trained inside Iraq for terrorism operations.

-- Wheeler obtained documents from a longstanding, reliable source who had provided unassailed information for articles previously published. The source is a senior U.S. government official, but not a political appointee and demanded anonymity before furnishing the documents and speaking with CNSNews.com about their importance. At no time in the investigation for this article were the Bush administration, the Bush re-election campaign, the Republican National Committee, the campaign of Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry or the Democratic National Committee consulted.

-- Two translators, working separately and independently of each other, translated the Arabic documents into English for CNSNews.com.

-- There are no hand-writing samples to which the documents can be compared for forensic analysis and authentication. However, three additional experts, a former weapons inspector with the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) who demanded anonymity before speaking with CNSNews.com; Bruce Tefft, a retired CIA counter-terrorism official with heavy experience dealing with Iraq; and Laurie Mylroie, Iraq expert and advisor to then-1992 presidential candidate Bill Clinton on the subject, were asked to evaluate the Iraqi intelligence documents in a double-blind manner. All said the documents comport with the format, style and content of other Iraqi documents from that era known to be genuine. Each of the experts concluded that the documents represent strong evidence that Saddam Hussein maintained extensive ties to terrorist groups including al Qaeda and that he possessed weapons of mass destruction (mustard gas and anthrax).

-- To protect against the Iraqi intelligence documents being altered or misrepresented on the Internet, CNSNews.com has published only the first of the 42 pages in Arabic, along with the English translation. Credentialed journalists and counter-terrorism experts seeking to view the Iraqi Intelligence Service documents and their English translations may make an appointment to visit CNSNews.com headquarters in Alexandria, Va. by first telephoning Managing Editor David Thibault at 703-683-9733.

Source: http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200410\NAT20041004b.html


29 posted on 10/04/2004 7:40:05 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla
"obtained documents from an longstanding unimpeachable, reliable source who had provided unassailed information for articles previously published" That's what Dan Rather said.
30 posted on 10/04/2004 7:42:35 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("We will crush Al Qaeda"....Silky Pony)
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To: areafiftyone

The President doesn't need to wait for MSM to pick this up. He can hold a press conference any time. At some point, he's going to have to step up to the plate and do something on his own--if he waits for MSM, it will never happen.


31 posted on 10/04/2004 7:42:55 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers. :: Kerry promises, but Bush delivers!)
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To: Quilla
The originals, some of which were hand-written and others typed are in Arabic.

Dan Rather should be all over this.

32 posted on 10/04/2004 7:42:59 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Just mythoughts

bookmarked


33 posted on 10/04/2004 7:43:13 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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bump


34 posted on 10/04/2004 7:44:01 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (prepare shift simulfax for human form. GO. prepare mirror clone. GO. clone me. illegal password)
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To: Quilla

Interesting!


35 posted on 10/04/2004 7:44:49 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (John F. Kerry. Wrong war? WRONG MAN!!)
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To: sevry

mark for reading


36 posted on 10/04/2004 7:45:36 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: BenLurkin
The only real outstanding question in my mind is exactly why the truth about Saddam's connections to WMD and Al Qaeda (and yes, to 9/11 as well) are being covered up so effectively.

Some people think it's because the government doesn't want the new Iraqi government to be liable for damages in lawsuits filed by the 9/11 victim's families, and the more I think about it the more I believe this is probably the main reason why.

37 posted on 10/04/2004 7:46:19 AM PDT by jpl (John Kerry is the 2-7 offsuit in the great Presidential poker game.)
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To: MizSterious

I wish he would. I love Bush. I get so sick of the media bashing him.


38 posted on 10/04/2004 7:46:22 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: MizSterious

"I have a long listing of news articles on the findings."

I've been searching for the work/article done by Shelia McVicars (ABC) about this - few years ago?- but no luck...do you know where this can be found? Thanks:)


39 posted on 10/04/2004 7:59:11 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Quilla
This story of course needs to be investigated, BUT it is Way too soon to announce anything by President Bush. This sounds as fishy as anything Rather would put out there.I don't like how they will only let this be investigated in person at their headquarters.Who are cns news?I hope someone that has expertise on this matter has the ability and time to view these and start the investigation into them.
40 posted on 10/04/2004 8:01:17 AM PDT by builder (still in search of an intern)
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To: Quilla

"Exclusive"?? Stuff that should be common knowledge?

Here's an "Exclusive": MSM IGNORES OBVIOUS EVIDENCE THEY THEMSELVES WROTE ABOUT PRIOR TO WAR!!!


41 posted on 10/04/2004 8:01:36 AM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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To: Quilla

Until 1 million metric tons of WMDs are found IN Iraq in ONE bunker (ie stockpile) marked as 'Proudly Made in Iraq' with certificates of authenticity personally signed by Saddam, Bush still lied.


42 posted on 10/04/2004 8:04:18 AM PDT by rudypoot (Kerry sold out the US for political gain before now and he is doing it again.)
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To: Quilla

selfping


43 posted on 10/04/2004 8:09:23 AM PDT by Edgerunner (Might doesn't make right, RIGHT MAKES MIGHT)
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To: rudypoot

The UN inspector reports from 1998 talked about Saddam having 30,000 liters of this and 40,000 liters of that. My backyard swimming pool, 15' X 30' X 4' holds somewhere between 40,000 and 50,000 liters. That's right - many of the banned "stockpiles" could fit in two tanker trucks.


44 posted on 10/04/2004 8:14:42 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: BenLurkin

Since sKerry has been AWOL more than 75% of the time from Senate Intelligence Committee meetings, and has been so busy taking vacations at Tereeza's many mansions, he likely hasn't had a chance to read any of that sort of thing. Besides, he gets his intelligence from MoveOn and Michael Moore.


45 posted on 10/04/2004 8:19:06 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Glad that Ted the Boorish Drunk, Hitlery the Witch and John Fonda/Fraud Kerry are not my senators.)
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To: Quilla

bttt


46 posted on 10/04/2004 8:19:40 AM PDT by ironman
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To: builder

CNSNews is a division of the Media Research Center, a credible organization that exposes lies and distortions in major media. Granted, the President shouldn't discuss these documents until they are verified, but at the proper time, his comments on the matter could bring this to the forefront.


47 posted on 10/04/2004 8:28:24 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla

Thanks for the info,I'm new to this site.


48 posted on 10/04/2004 8:30:03 AM PDT by builder (still in search of an intern)
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To: Quilla
Kerry LIED, LIED, I TELLYOU, about no weapons of mas destruction.
49 posted on 10/04/2004 8:32:25 AM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: builder

Welcome to Free Republic - THE place for breaking news.


50 posted on 10/04/2004 8:33:02 AM PDT by Quilla
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