Skip to comments.What part of 'gay' don't they understand? (lesbian angry that men like watching her kiss girlfriend)
Posted on 10/04/2004 7:31:17 AM PDT by dead
Nadine Davidoff has had enough of men assuming that what gay women really want is a bloke.
When you see two girls walking down the street arm in arm there are a few of safe assumptions you could make about the scene; either the girls are friends or they are gay - they could even be partners. However, a certain subset of heterosexual men inexplicably arrive at a completely different conclusion: that the girls are putting on this display for their benefit and that they secretly want the men to join in the fun.
Who knows where this misconception comes from? Centuries of male privilege perhaps; a notion that everything in this world is created for their enjoyment? But this is the post-feminist age and men have long since ceased to be our supreme rulers. Which poses the question: what part of the word "gay" do these men not understand?
We are not helped, of course, by the likes of Madonna and Britney Spears, who recently engaged in a tongue-twister for precisely the purpose of revving up heterosexual men. I am sure they enjoyed themselves (well, Britney surely did) but did they realise that this wanton publicity stunt trivialises and misrepresents every genuine display of affection between lesbian women?
A case in point; one warm Sunday afternoon, I was walking along Bondi Beach hand-in-hand with my girlfriend. Deep in conversation, we suddenly became aware of a fat, hairy man barrelling towards us with his arms outstretched. "How 'bout a threesome ladies?" he leered as he attempted to enfold us in a group hug. It didn't take us very long to come up with an appropriate response to this invasion, and we promptly told the fool to bugger off. But sometimes, it's a little bit more tricky.
For example, my girlfriend dropped me off at yoga one evening, and as we parted, she gave me a quick kiss goodbye. "Nice kiss, girls," drawled a male member of the class as he stepped into the room. As I followed him into a quiet candlelit studio with members of the class already deep into their postures, it didn't seem quite right to ruin the serenity with a loud four-letter word.
It does help though, to have your mother on hand. Strolling past Ravesi's in Bondi one hot afternoon (yes, hand-in-hand with my girl) the hairy boofheads spilling out of every open window could not contain their excitement, and proceeded to hassle us with catcalls and whistles. By now, quite used to this graceless display, we walked blithely on. Not so my mother, for whom this was a new experience. "What's wrong with you all?" she scolded as she turned to face them. "They're not doing it for your benefit."
I have never seen a bunch of men sink faster into their beers. Clearly, if there's one thing heterosexual men are still afraid of, it's their mothers.
Totally. You know they love the attention.
You DON'T want to see them.
Do you think that if you act like a slut in public you are going to be treated like a slut? What do you expect!
I think we need visual confirmation for the article's claim...in the name of good journalism of course, anything less would be uncivilized.
I'm a lesbian in a man's body....
These ladies need to be more open minded, men have needs, and lesbians and men are just made to be together....
You need some really good pictures!
This is hilarious.
I can picture the barrel shaped guy. Probably a version of everyone's brother-in-law.
It's a rip-off, the article doesn't have any pictures except an unrelated ad.
This funny in the eye-rolling ironic sense. Guys are hardwired to view women sexually. It takes a lot of work to subjugate the sex-obsessed 14 year old mindset. Certain women, however, are still shocked to find that the way they dress, speak and act can release that mindset within some men in heartbeat.
Get a room.
I'm sure the mental images everyone on this thread appears to be having about this girl and her girlfriend are a bit off the mark. But I admit, I like it when lesbians get angry!
I am a woman, and I would like male Freepers to explain to me why they enjoy seeing women having sex. I love the bodies of men but I don't enjoy seeing male gays do it. Is it even possible to explain these pre-verbal reactions using words, or is it like describing color to a blind man?
Which, fortunately, is absolutely all the time.
Women don't understand: There is a whole host of things they can do to make themselves participants in a man's fantasy and their willingness to be in it isn't one of them.
Conventional wisdom is that two REAL lesbians, one is good looking and the other looks like she was hit by a truck.
The writer should pick up a minging girlfriend so she isn't troubled anymore.
actually conventional wisdom says that two REAL lesbians are ugly, fat, flannel wearing man haters.
>However, a certain subset of heterosexual men inexplicably arrive at a completely different conclusion: that the girls are putting on this display for their benefit and that they secretly want the men to join in the fun.<
Uh, are these Aussie women so dense as to think, when they act out a common male sexual fantasy in public that they won't have a bunch of randy males making comments or worse?
One is great - two is better - especially when there is no competition involved - at least anatomically speaking...
What part of "heterosexual male" don't you understand? You're female and you obviously don't have a boyfriend. It's definitely worth a shot.
Possibly because they have known too many straight women who do just this.
What they love is feeling persecuted. That is why they chose the lifestyle to begin with.....
Who knows where this misconception comes from?
It comes from the fact that it is abnormal for a woman to prefer sex with a woman than with a man. It is natural for men to want to fix things. Since you are broken, men want to fix you.
OK, so these particular men prefer to join in the brokenness - they need help too. But that's still the root of the concept, which is not a misconception in the least.
Exactly. It's like a person with blue hair, a mohawk, dozens of piercings and tattoos who complains that people are staring at him.
"Who knows where this misconception comes from?"
I know. It's the commonly-held myth among many men that they are some deity's gift to women. They just assume that all women want to have sex with them, and cannot, for the life of them, understand why any women does not desire them.
I believe there may be a few in that category right here on FR.
O'Reilly was discussing the topic of lesbianism, and even confessed that men are just hard-wired that way. There are several issues going on at once - watching two women together with no other male competition around - already aroused - and ripe for the plucking - so to speak.
That's about the best I can explain it.
"By now, quite used to this graceless display, we walked blithely on"
Maybe, someone should point out that the graceless display is on their part as well?
She doesn't get why men find lesbo scenes in porn such a turn-on. Guys want to be in the middle of the action. Here's a lesbian who doesn't understand men and their attraction to women.
Homosexual Agenda Ping.
All I can say is they deserve each other. Homosexual women getting angry about lust-driven men looking at them. Don't want the attention, ladies? Don't act out in public, then.
When people want to deny the laws of nature set up by nature's God, they have to also take the results, which are never pretty. And there are a lot more results to come.
Let Scripter and me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.
When was the last time you saw adult heteros do that?
They were showing off and looking for attention.
Of course, they were exceptionally ugly, too, made particularly ugly from artificial uglification means like dyed hair (at least one had weird dyed hair like a clown).
"I believe there may be a few in that category right here on FR."
Hold on now! I represent - er - resent that remark.
O'Reilly was discussing the topic of lesbianism
Slightly off topic, but I was listening to Howard Stern this morning and they were playing a clip from OReilly reading his viewer mail last week. He actually read an e-mail from Jack Mehoff on the air. It was pretty hysterical listening to him say the name in that big OReilly voice of his Jack Mehoff in Coral Gables writes
It's very simple. There are no men in the picture. It's pure abstract sex. If a man sees another man having sex with a woman, he thinks "who the hell does that guy think he is, having sex with that woman I should be having sex with? It's an outrage!" There is no such barrier when watching hot girl-on-girl action.
Women think totally differently. They see a hot guy with a woman and they'll ask a man - "do you think she's pretty?" Men couldn't care less what other men look like.
Not all men do, I am not turned on by gay couples of any sex.
To each their own I suppose.
I don't know, guys.
Most of the gay women I know don't bear the slightest resemblance to Britney or Madonna.
In fact, most don't even really look like women in general.
(Not that there's anything wrong with that)
Was that a Talking Points Memo or an Impact Segment?
I don't buy it. The article sounds contrived to foster a lesbo agenda and denigrate hetrosexuality, not to mention painting fat people as pervs.
Jason Blair school of journalism graduate, IMO.
In related news, I read about a couple that named their son Drew. The family name is Peacock. They never made the connection on why this would be a rather insulting name.
"Two lesbians were holding hands and kissing in the checkout line at the grocery store the other day.
When was the last time you saw adult heteros do that? "
Uh, yesterday, you'd have seen that while my wife and I were in the grocery store. We often hold hands, and I gave her a quick kiss right there in the checkout line. But then, we're newlyweds, having been married only 13 years.
Male fantasy. :o) You're always hoping that you'll be asked to join in. That's why the response.
The reason they look for is they having nothing else better to do with their time.
All I'm going to say about the lesbian issue is this:
If the so called "lesbians" really wanted women, there would be no place for the "BUTCH DYKE", as this is nothing but a woman who does everything in her power and mannerisms to act and look like a MAN.
If a woman truly wanted another woman, and was not likely the victim of some sort of physical of psychological abuse at some stage, probably early in her life with a man, she would be going after and interested in women who look like women.
"If a man sees another man having sex with a woman, he thinks "who the hell does that guy think he is, having sex with that woman I should be having sex with? It's an outrage!" "
Which explains, I suppose, why men don't watch explicit porn, then. Oh, wait....
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