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Discovery in Samarra (The Picture Kerry-Edwards doesn't want you to see)
NY Times Images ^ | 10-5-04 | NY Times/Ashley Gilbertson

Posted on 10/05/2004 8:46:52 AM PDT by cgk



SUB IRAQ 3

RETRANSMISSION TO RECAST CAPTION -- (NYT9) SAMARRA, Iraq -- Oct. 4, 2004 -- IRAQ-3 -- A member of the New York National Guard looks at documents found in a building in Samarra, Monday, Oct. 4, 2004. Some of the papers included a booklet featuring Osama Bin Laden and the 9/11 attacks. (Ashley Gilbertson/The New York Times) - MAGS OUT /NO SALES   (NYT Photos) Download 267K

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; alqaeda; osamabinladen; saddam; september11
Found this picture on page 2 of my San Diego Union Tribune paper this morning. No story accompanied it beyond the caption.
1 posted on 10/05/2004 8:46:53 AM PDT by cgk
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; Peach; backhoe
Documents Link Hussein/bin Laden: Tennessean, 6/25/03

The Proof that Saddam Worked with bin Laden: Telegraph, 4/27/03

Clinton First Linked al Qaeda to Saddam: Washington Times, 6/25/ 04

The Iraq-Al Qaeda Connections ( Richard Miniter): TCS, 9/25/03

Case Closed: Weekly Standard, 11/24/03

Saddam's al Qaeda Connection: Weekly Standard, 9/1/03

Saddam Link to Bin Laden: Guardian, 2/6/99

(9/11) Commission Confirms Links: USA Today, 6/17/ 04

Judge Says Saddam, bin Laden Liable for 9/11 Attacks: Houston Chronicle, 5/8/03

Saddam and Al Qaeda: James Joyner, TCS 6/18/04

Safire: Saddam's Links to Terror, on Disc: Int'l Herald Tribune, 2/12/04

Safire: Al Qaeda's links to Saddam Emerge: Int'l Herald Tribune, 11/25/03

Intelligence Report links Saddam, Usama: Fox News, 11/16/03

A Saddam Connection? / Who is Ramzi Yousef Salon.com, 9/21/01

Mylroie Interview: Gunning for Saddam (links between al Qaeda, Saddam): PBS Frontline, 10/18/01.

2 posted on 10/05/2004 8:47:24 AM PDT by cgk
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To: cgk

Thanks, cgk. I'll go through those links to see which ones I don't have in my bookmarks.


3 posted on 10/05/2004 8:51:12 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: cgk

eh. I wouldn't get too excited. Osama is an icon to the islamo facist mindset. Not surprising that they have his literature lying about. Big deal.


4 posted on 10/05/2004 8:52:42 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Am back but just for a short while)
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To: cgk

big BUMP


5 posted on 10/05/2004 8:54:39 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: KantianBurke

I don't have any lying about.


6 posted on 10/05/2004 8:55:28 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: Peach

Haha... I find myself having to do the same thing. Trying to make one master list out of dozens upon dozens of these articles.


7 posted on 10/05/2004 8:57:08 AM PDT by cgk
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To: kinsman redeemer

Unless ur an islamo facist and/or you hate the US and the West ur point is well..pointless.


8 posted on 10/05/2004 8:57:32 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Am back but just for a short while)
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To: cgk; christie

If you do make such a list, please ping me.

Freeper Christie has developed an easy to read chart on this matter and is working on it and adding to it all the time.


9 posted on 10/05/2004 8:58:50 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: KantianBurke

QED


10 posted on 10/05/2004 9:00:42 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (the real enemy seeks to devour what is good)
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To: cgk
Kerry and Edwards will be blaming Freeper Registered for photochopping that and planting it there.

lol.

[Hey, they are desperate.]
11 posted on 10/05/2004 9:01:33 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: cgk

Thanks for the links!


12 posted on 10/05/2004 9:02:31 AM PDT by GeoPie
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To: cgk
And this was the reaction of one of the Iraqi National Guardsmen:


An Iraqi working with a New York National Guard platoon interrogated a civilian in Samarra on Monday. He shouted and beat the man with a baton after a booklet with a picture of Osama bin Laden was found.

13 posted on 10/05/2004 9:02:57 AM PDT by saquin
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To: TomGuy; Registered

No joke... remember when Registered's dinars were being brandished by liberated Iraqis on TV at the fall of Baghdad? THAT"S when I think FR hit the "map" the media ignored until the memo mess.


14 posted on 10/05/2004 9:04:54 AM PDT by cgk (Calling it MemoGate is like saying Watergate had something to do w/ Water: WhistlingPasttheGraveyard)
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To: saquin
Good lord, what is the gooey looking yellow crap oozing out of the bars on the window?

Looks like two plucked chickens hanging up.

Maybe that's what they ought to do with that "insurgent".

15 posted on 10/05/2004 9:08:54 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo ( MSM is the nanny watchdog of everyone/everything; yet they explode w/rage when THEY are audited.)
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To: cgk

BTT


16 posted on 10/05/2004 9:11:55 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: saquin
He shouted and beat the man with a baton after a booklet with a picture of Osama bin Laden was found.

That is just NOT right...Why don't we supply our soldiers with something heavier than a baton???

17 posted on 10/05/2004 9:13:11 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: cgk

The liberal spin is "Define how literature and a picture make you connected" ... Response "If you have literature and pictures of Osama and you are attacking americans you are a terrorist supportin Al-Quieda"....

If you are not with us, You are with the terrorists...So now half of America needs to reflect on which side they really are...


18 posted on 10/05/2004 9:14:11 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Global Tests in the defense of our Country are not supported by the CONSTITUTION.)
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To: saquin

"Private Muhammad Pyle! What is your major malfunction boy!"

19 posted on 10/05/2004 9:15:05 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: cgk

I question the timing of this "news".


20 posted on 10/05/2004 9:29:58 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: cgk
Rumsfeld backtracks on al-Qaida, Iraq links Official says he was misunderstood, didn't mean to minimize ties

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6180176/

So, is there a link, or are we being subjected to more double talk?

21 posted on 10/05/2004 9:30:21 AM PDT by Sarajevo (The history of the preceding century began in Sarajevo)
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To: Peach

Me too, please. Thanks!


22 posted on 10/05/2004 9:33:46 AM PDT by PatriotGirl827 (God Bless America!)
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To: Sarajevo
Oh yes, there is a link.. there has always been a link - back to Clinton's term. And yes, it is the same double talk as the media's treatment of the 9/11 Commission's "findings"... and David Kay's report.

Salman Pak: Iraq's Terror Training Facility

BTW - Thank you for your service in Afghanistan.

23 posted on 10/05/2004 9:36:27 AM PDT by cgk (Calling it MemoGate is like saying Watergate had something to do w/ Water: WhistlingPasttheGraveyard)
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To: KantianBurke
eh. I wouldn't get too excited. Osama is an icon to the islamo facist mindset. Not surprising that they have his literature lying about. Big deal.

This just prove beyond a shadow of a doubt why we need to be in Iraq. We need to hunt down Islamo Fascists wherever they hide and to do that we need unfettered access to those countries. This is why we preemptively invaded Afghanistan and why Hussein was removed from power, because he would not have let us fight the terrorists in Iraq. Pakistan agreed to work with us, Libya has agreed to allow weapons inspectors to dismantle their WMD program. Syria and Iran are next.

24 posted on 10/05/2004 9:42:43 AM PDT by Pres Raygun
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PBS' Interview with Iraqi Lt General on Salman Pak

25 posted on 10/05/2004 9:43:18 AM PDT by cgk (Calling it MemoGate is like saying Watergate had something to do w/ Water: WhistlingPasttheGraveyard)
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To: cgk

What a great set of links. I wonder if anyone in the Bush debate prep team has seen these? Judging by Thursday's debate, it wouldn't seem so.


26 posted on 10/05/2004 9:43:23 AM PDT by tdadams ('Unfit for Command' is full of lies... it quotes John Kerry)
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To: cgk
A 'Saddam and Al-Qaeda Links" BUMP!
27 posted on 10/05/2004 9:45:22 AM PDT by Pagey ("How did Hillary Clinton become a Senator"? Have you ever asked yourself that question?)
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To: cgk; Peach
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Here is my chart of what the media was saying pre-911 and after:

Connect the Dots...Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.

http://www.archive-news.net/Articles/SH040923.html

There are dozens of articles, but I have a criteria of: preferably original source, live links on the Internet, and not a restricted site. In other words, sites where people can actually read the full article. I've made a few exceptions and put in reproduced articles.

I'll look through and add from your list. Thanks.

.

28 posted on 10/05/2004 9:45:23 AM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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To: Pres Raygun

lol! That's probably the silliest post I've come across in quite some time. Reality check. Afghanistan was invaded due to their close association and withholding of Osama. Iraq was invaded, among other reasons, for Saddam's support of terror and the possibility that WMD would be developed and then given to terrorists.

Hate to break it to you but most of the Islamic world hates us and is a big fan of Osama and his fanaticism. In Nigeria a few years back Osama was one of the most popular baby names. Hence why I and others shouldn't be so surprised to see books gloryfing the nutcase lying around. Is the proper response to that your inane "yeah man lets invade the whole Mideast! Nuke'em!" Of course not. Kill off current terrorists who pose a threat to us, make sure others don't replace them and take down any govts that interfere with the previous two conditions.


29 posted on 10/05/2004 9:52:18 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Am back but just for a short while)
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To: cgk; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

PING...........


30 posted on 10/05/2004 9:53:21 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (So sKerry pulled a pen from his jacket, he still broke rules he agreed to..)
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To: cgk

WOW great find! Osama found in Iraq!


31 posted on 10/05/2004 10:10:45 AM PDT by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - Right for our Times!)
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To: cgk
Thanks so much for that link.

Having read about the facility quite some time ago and actually seen a close up picture of the hull of the plane they used to train the scum that started this war with the attack on the WTC I have been looking for the documentation.

Do you know where more detailed pictures of the training plane are on the Internet?

Thanks, you and the other archivers have been doing a fantastic job!
32 posted on 10/05/2004 11:15:35 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Syncro; Diogenesis
I believe Global Security's website had a few up-close pics of the facility/plane along with their satellite shots... (Salman Pak)

I'll ping Diogenesis, as they may know where the detailed pics of the Salman Pak plane may be found... How about it, Dio? :)

33 posted on 10/05/2004 11:19:27 AM PDT by cgk (Calling it MemoGate is like saying Watergate had something to do w/ Water: WhistlingPasttheGraveyard)
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To: cgk

Thanks!


34 posted on 10/05/2004 11:24:07 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: cgk

links between UBL and Sadaam Bump for Later. Thanks for all the info Cgk


35 posted on 10/05/2004 11:26:57 AM PDT by priceofreedom (On A Roadmap To Hell)
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To: Syncro
More of the same, from Rush:

Photos prove connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda

36 posted on 10/05/2004 11:31:03 AM PDT by cgk (Calling it MemoGate is like saying Watergate had something to do w/ Water: WhistlingPasttheGraveyard)
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To: priceofreedom

Quite welcome.


37 posted on 10/05/2004 11:31:20 AM PDT by cgk (Calling it MemoGate is like saying Watergate had something to do w/ Water: WhistlingPasttheGraveyard)
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To: OXENinFLA

Thank you for the ping!


38 posted on 10/05/2004 12:57:07 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: KantianBurke
Sorry to break the news to you, but your post was the lame one. I was just trying to be polite, by pointing out your error in logic, without insulting you. Let's examine your original post. Do you think any Iraqi with an IQ of over 10 would not have destroyed anything with bin Laden's name or image on it with the country crawling with US soldiers, unless he was willing to die for Osama? An Iraqi possessing literature featuring bin Laden in Iraq today is analogous to a German in the fall of 1945, flying a Nazi flag or hanging Hitler's picture in his living room.

In Nigeria a few years back Osama was one of the most popular baby names.

Is this supposed to be an example of your superior reasoning skills? From the same flawed reasoning one would come to the conclusion that the majority of Americans are Brittany Spears fans because Brittany is the most popular girls name. If we were to invade Nigeria, I would guess that bin Laden promotional material would become scarce and little boys named Osama would be going by their middle names.

Is the proper response to that your inane "yeah man lets invade the whole Mideast! Nuke'em!" Of course not. Kill off current terrorists who pose a threat to us, make sure others don't replace them and take down any govts that interfere with the previous two conditions.

Where did I say the above. Interestingly you used quotes for words I never said or wrote. Your hyperbole destroys what little credibility you had left. Oh and tell me how do we kill terrorist in Iran and Syria without either overthrowing the Syrian and Iranian governments or convincing them to cooperate with us (a highly unlikely proposition) or killing the terrorists from those countries when they come to Iraq to kill us there?

39 posted on 10/05/2004 4:26:36 PM PDT by Pres Raygun
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To: OXENinFLA

eeeeYup!


40 posted on 10/05/2004 5:45:45 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: cgk

ping


41 posted on 10/18/2004 11:09:25 AM PDT by southland (Dan rather cost kerry the electiion 15 more days!!!)
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