Skip to comments.When Did John Kerry Run the Boston Marathon?
Posted on 10/05/2004 11:40:40 AM PDT by americaprd
Recently, Football Fans for Truth learned that John Kerry claimed a significant achievement: qualifying and running the Boston Marathon.
In an ESPN interview, he said, "I ran a marathon back in '80, something like that. Did the Boston Marathon."
An ESPN analysis of his athletic achievements mentions that "[he] ran the Boston Marathon in the 1970s".
In its November 2004 issue, Runner's World observes that John Kerry "[ran] the Boston Marathon in the '70s".
In April 2002, John Kerry was the starter for the Boston Marathon. The Daily Free Press reports that Senator Kerry "lamented the fact that time constraints had made it impossible for him to run in the Marathon, which he participated in 20 years ago."
In a conversation with a Iowa state senator, John Kerry said, "I remember my first Boston Marathon ... it's a great run."
In a later article, ESPN tried to nail down the exact date and reported that "there's no official record of his feat, and his campaign did not provide further details despite repeated inquiries." The November issue of Runner's World reports that "he doesn't recall his time, and no official record exists".
While we hold that John Kerry is not fit to be sports-fan-in-chief, Football Fans for Truth will alert their many readers to John Kerry's Boston Marathon run as evidence of our dedication to honesty and openness. But we're not sure exactly when this event occurred. Did he run it twice, once in the 70s and once in 1980, or once in 1980 and once in 1982? When did he qualify for the marathon?
We aren't too surprised that John Kerry doesn't remember his time. After all, he can't remember the name of an historic football stadium or current baseball players, so how can we expect him to remember an event that happened 20....no, 22...no, 24 or 25, maybe?...years ago?
I only ran one marathon. It was Honolulu, Dec 7, 1980. I finished in 2,929th place with a time of 4 hours 5 minutes 15 seconds. The men's winner was Duncan McDonald (2 hours 16 minutes) with Frank Shorter second. Patty Lyons Catalano won for the women. There was a torrential rainstorm maybe an hour into the race for forty or fifty minutes, then it got hot and steamy as I was struggling down the last several miles from Hawaii Kai toward the finish line in Waikiki.
I have trouble imagining that I would forget everything except that I once ran the thing, twenty-something years ago.
There should at least be pictures of this....last August, he finished the 110-mile Pan-Massachusetts Challenge, a bicycle race, in 6 1/2 hours. Does anyone remember this?
When was his second Boston Marathon
Kerry remembers his first BM.....he still has it....had it bronzed...it's next to his first silver star
Exactly. Anyone who had successfully completed the challenge (and agony) of running 26.2 miles would remember the year and their time. Completing a marathon (especially one as famous as Boston) is a memorable event, verging on life-changing for some. Heck, even runners who have completed multiple marathons over the years can probably tell you the date and their time for any given race.
New Balance 320's, trained at 10 mi per day all year long and 15 mi/day 60 days in advance, carbohydrate loading all the time... You don't just up and decide to run 26.25 miles a day or two in advance.
You are not kidding, I lived in Massachusetts for 19 years, had a friend who ran in the Marathon, in 2001, and 2002.
Well, we came darned close the last time around.
Oh geez. This guy is SO AWFUL. How can anyone listen to word HE says? Does he not realize that all these statements and claims he has made can now be checked out by nearly everyone? It just boggles the mind.
Or the year he went to Cambodia...
HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW WHEN YOU RAN 26 MILES IN A DAY!!
honestly the boston marathon is a huge event...if i ran it i would be able to tell you all about it ....and be happy as pie to do so. I def would know when i ran it etc. There shouldnt be a mix up of dates
did he or didnt he?
I think I remember this event. Remember when the guy cheated and jumped in at the end of the race? That HAD to be Kerry!!
bump fpr later
Hey did you know he served in Vietnam and was under enemy fire on several occasions?. How dare you question his athletic running record. I mean a hero and such is beyond reproach. (sarcasm off).
Yeah, and you have a photograph of yourself at the finish line with the time. No one runs the Boston Marathon without a photograph of themselves performing the feat, much less a politician from MA who re-enacted in 8 mm his Vietnam derring do.
The Marathoner in Chief
Though injuries have reduced his running during his presidency, Bush has a treadmill on Air Force One and goes for hour-long jaunts on it in the air during overseas trips. In January, 1993, he finished the Houston Marathon in 3:44:52 (that's about an 8:30 pace); he's the only president ever to complete that distance. (Kerry claims to have run in, and finished, the Boston Marathon "in '80, something like that" -- but there's no official record of his feat, and his campaign did not provide further details despite repeated inquiries.)
New Balance 1023s (too expensive but a good ride). I've been running for only a year and despite all my pronouncements before I took it up, I've become hooked on all the details. Bottom line with a personality like Kerry's, we--unfortunately--would have heard about it ad nauseam. By the way, Edwards is on the cover of Runner's World. The cover and article were quickly torn out and tossed in the garbage.
The qualifying standards go by 5 year age groups, male and female, and have been changed a bit over the years.
You know who was in front and behind you when you hit the wall, you know how many people watched you after you looked around for a quiet place to puke. You know how much you appreciated your wife (in my case) or whoever it was that was your non-running partner for the event. Most of us just don't climb in our cars and drive away.
Of course I'm sure Kerry immediately climbed aboard his plane for a quick trip to Australia to perform in the America's Cup.
At Yale, Kerry became a stunt flyer, a pursuit he continued until recently. He learned aeronautics in the Navy, and is licensed to fly commercial aircraft, gliders and seaplanes. The last might have come in handy when he tried to fly under the Golden Gate Bridge.
He turned away from that challenge, he told the Washington Post in 1985.
"I could have continued under, I guess, but I opted out," he said. There've been other thrilling pursuits -- the Democratic candidate is a snowboarder, a windsurfer, and a kite-sailor. There are endurance sports: He ran the Boston Marathon in the 1970s; and last August, he finished the 110-mile Pan-Massachusetts Challenge, a bicycle race, in 6 1/2 hours. That put him in 32nd place in the field of 3,700 riders.
YOU are SO RIGHT!
First, you remember what year it was, then what time you did each one in, then you have a medal that you get for finishing.That medal is not in a drawer, or hidden away.
I've ran 6 marathons 9 San Diego 85, Marine Corps 92, Big Sur 93, 94, 95, 97, and getting ready for Marine Corps
(Oct 31). I can recall the times in each one(over 4 hours)
He is quoted, "I remember my FIRST Boston Marathon." Obviously implying he ran more than one.
2004 top 100 men finishers
Here are the top men finishers in the 2004 Boston Marathon.
Place Name Age Home Time
1 Timothy Cherigat 27 Kenya 2:10:37
2 Robert Cheboror 25 Kenya 2:11:49
3 Martin Lel 25 Kenya 2:13:38
4 Stephen Kiogora 29 Kenya 2:14:34
5 Hailu Negussie 24 Ethiopia 2:17:30
6 Benjamin Kosgei Kimutai 33 Kenya 2:17:45
7 Joshua Kipkemboi 45 Kenya 2:18:23
8 Andrew Letherby 30 Australia 2:19:31
9 Fedor V. Ryzhov 44 Russian Federation 2:21:24
10 Elly Rono 33 Kenya 2:22:45
11 Alexander S. Prokopchuk 36 Latvia 2:23:48
12 Wilson Komen 26 Kenya 2:24:06
13 Christopher Zieman 32 Felton, CA 2:25:45
14 Salvatore Bettiol 42 Italy 2:26:15
15 Kentarou Suzuki 26 Japan 2:27:15
16 Dawit Trfe 19 Ethiopia 2:27:54
17 Eric M. Post 25 Fairfax, VA 2:29:13
18 Mario Fattore 28 Italy 2:29:17
19 Michael R. Wardian 30 Arlington, VA 2:29:57
20 John Mentzer 27 Newport, RI 2:30:50
21 Laban Kipkemboi 26 Kenya 2:31:17
22 Eddie Ernest-Jones 27 Great Britain 2:31:53
23 John A. Mirth 41 Platteville, WI 2:32:32
24 Henry Wanyoike 29 Kenya 2:33:20
25 Hiroaki Takeda 29 Japan 2:33:22
26 Ryan C. Linden 22 Rochester Hills, MI 2:33:32
27 Brian E. Spangenberg 40 Canyon Country, CA 2:33:57
28 Minoru Isono 30 Japan 2:34:07
29 Jason L. Saitta 26 Parker, CO 2:34:14
30 Jesse J. Williams 26 Reston, VA 2:34:38
31 Peter Heimgartner 35 Australia 2:35:16
32 Eric G. Beauchesne 34 Chelmsford, MA 2:35:39
33 John Sillery 32 Athens, OH 2:37:24
34 Andy Hass 25 Belleville, MI 2:38:24
35 Motofumi Hikihashi 27 Japan 2:38:37
36 Bob L. Dickie 29 Kailua, HI 2:39:12
37 Ken J. Pliska 38 Littleton, MA 2:39:16
38 Chris J. Farley 28 Arlington, VA 2:39:27
39 Matthew Dobson 34 Jay, FL 2:39:29
40 Tyler Q. Kirk 23 Charlottesville, VA 2:39:30
41 Philippe B. Rolly 31 France 2:39:39
42 Joshua L. Sohn 22 Cambridge, MA 2:39:41
43 Wesley W. Holman 27 Casper, WY 2:39:44
44 Tony Banovich 41 Billings, MT 2:39:56
45 Atsuhiro Watanabe 21 Japan 2:40:00
46 Daniel B. Warren 33 Findlay, OH 2:40:00
47 Craig N. Morrell 32 Canada 2:40:15
48 Brian P. Mulry 24 White River Junction, VT 2:41:07
49 Matt J. Karatkewicz 23 Middlefield, CT 2:41:15
50 Michael J. Dehring 33 Cincinnati, OH 2:41:21
51 John N. Friedman 23 Cambridge, MA 2:41:39
52 James R. Gallagher 27 Seattle, WA 2:41:44
53 Kevin N. Kaspzyk 33 Rochester, MI 2:42:01
54 Peter Forster 31 Switzerland 2:42:06
55 Bryan R. Kovalsky 25 Ridgefield, CT 2:42:11
56 Lowell Ladd 28 Boston, MA 2:42:15
57 Jonathan Clemens 30 San Diego, CA 2:42:18
58 Daniel Mc Cue 27 Boston, MA 2:42:21
59 Ian A. Nurse 26 Great Britain 2:42:42
60 Joel E. Mc Creary 26 Glendale, AZ 2:42:55
61 Chuck Engle 33 Clinton, MS 2:43:05
62 Eric J. Lavigne 27 Ashburn, VA 2:43:08
63 Todd R. White 39 Huntsville, AL 2:43:10
64 Vincenzo Trentadue 23 Italy 2:43:19
65 Matt Gerard 32 Kalamazoo, MI 2:43:31
66 Alexander G. Hetherington 36 Stafford, VA 2:43:38
67 Mark S. Reeder 44 Brighton, MA 2:43:46
68 Ryan M. Donahue 25 Centreville, VA 2:43:52
69 Derek Decicco 24 Long Beach, CA 2:43:58
70 J. Anthony Skuce 40 Canada 2:44:11
71 Michael J. Mc Grane 34 Rockport, MA 2:44:13
72 Timothy E. Fahey 30 Corpus Christi, TX 2:44:21
73 Mac Allen 46 Austin, TX 2:44:22
74 Mark T. Cucuzzella 37 Denver, CO 2:44:35
75 Leonard Vergunst 48 Ocean Springs, MS 2:44:37
76 James Harper 26 Atlanta, GA 2:44:40
77 Conrad F. Orloff 34 Columbia, MD 2:44:48
78 Jeff R. Watson 22 Chicago, IL 2:44:54
79 Andrew E. Bartle 27 San Diego, CA 2:44:56
80 Ryan J. La Fleur 30 Boston, MA 2:45:10
81 Johnny Loria 29 Costa Rica 2:45:41
82 Gregory C. Mullins 29 Randolph, NJ 2:45:41
83 Ted M. Leblow 35 Fort Leavenworth, KS 2:45:57
84 Keiron M. Tumbleton 38 Hopkinton, MA 2:46:09
85 Laurent R. Julien 36 France 2:46:15
86 Jonathan M. Feddock 23 Lexington, KY 2:46:19
87 Greg M. Ward 32 Holden, MA 2:46:19
88 Todd T. Marohl 36 Green Bay, WI 2:46:20
89 Paul Hammond 44 Lexington, MA 2:46:21
90 Peter Allen 43 Morristown, NJ 2:46:33
91 Kevin P. Grasmick 33 Alexandria, VA 2:46:54
92 Paul T. Hughes 38 Ireland 2:47:02
93 Todd R. Forsgren 23 Brunswick, ME 2:47:14
94 Eben J. Robinson 31 West Hartford, CT 2:47:19"
95 Ronald A. Jillard 21 Chapel Hill, NC 2:47:35
96 George P. Luke 38 Clinton, CT 2:47:38
97 Tony Tochtrop 40 Northglenn, CO 2:47:42
98 Jeffrey A. Schrock 28 Columbus, OH 2:47:46
99 David Harkin 34 Tualatin, OR 2:47:48
100 Thomas J. Neupauer 42 Mill Valley, CA 2:47:49
Participated, how? Was he a volunteer handing out water?
You will note that the other candidates, Bush and Edwards, show which marathon they have run and the exact times for each. As an aside, although I can't stand Edwards, his marathon times are pretty impressive.
Also, the qualifying times back in the seventies were under 3 hours. There is no way that a sub-3 hour marathoner would not remember running Boston for the first time. What a maroon!!
Yeah!! (OK, it wasn't Boston and there's no time.)
Of course, you are correct. I strongly suspect that Kerry probably ran two miles of it once as part of some sort of ceremonial/political thing.
Kerry, of course, talks about it as if he finished.
It is a lie as he presents it...but one he could retreat from, claiming that people just misunderstood.
Just from his past history of padding his record and casual dishonesty, I would not be surprised if he somehow cheated in this bicycle race.....was he seen at all the checkpoints?
California International Marathon, December 2, 2001. Finished in the top 3,000 (LOL!!!). Hey, I was 54 years old and still running at the end. Believe me, not only do I remember the day, the year, and the location, I remember every step those last 3 or 4 miles!
What a flat-out liar! Cambodia is one thing, but this is serious stuff.
My daughter ran a maraton and let me tell you, it's not something you forget. You know your time and you sure as heck know the year.
All Kerry has to say now is that he would have beat that Kenyan if he hadn't tripped him.
From what I can tell it is not a bike race, it is a bike-a-thon for charity. There are no "places."
It was around the year he sighted a 16 point buck on Cape Cod.
Very interesting ESPN article!
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uh oh ... my link is bad ... try the link in post #22 ...the stunt flyer reference is near the bottom
Bottom line, in case anyone hasn't yet caught on, is that John Effin Kerry is a liar. He didn't run the Boston Marathon, but for some reason has decided it makes sense to claim he did.
This is so sad. Kerry is one sick individual. You look up the definition of narcissism in the dictionary and it says: a personality disorder characterized by the patients overestimation of his or her own appearance and abilities and an excessive need for admiration. Then it shows his picture.
As President (God forbid) what will he give away in order to gain the admiration of the UN, France and Germany? Oh, not to mention North Korea, because he would of course be able to have successful bilateral negotiations with them to suspend their Nuke program.
< With the exception of Ronald Reagan, every president since the mid-'70s has been a runner. George W. ran a 3:44 marathon at Houston a decade ago. Kerry says he completed a Boston in the '70s but forgets his time (Question: Did he forget his qualifying time, too, or didn't he have to qualify?).
Even 2000 Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore finished a marathon once.
Exactly my point--you don't just decide one day to go run the Boston Marathon. You have to qualify at sactioned marathons around the country. I wonder if Kerry can name the qualifying event he ran in to become eligible for Boston?
You'd think the list of entrants still exists somewhere for an enterprising reporter to dig up...
The quote from the second site, so you don't have to register:
Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), who fired the starter's pistol, also expressed his admiration for the runners. He lamented the fact that time constraints had made it impossible for him to run in the Marathon, which he participated in 20 years ago.
"I love the Marathon," he said. "I admire everyone. To run, it takes a lot of spirit and a lot of guts."
And in a surprise announcement, the Kerry campaign announced today that John Kerry had also won an Olympic Gold Medal in the javelin toss back in '72 or '80, something like that; however, clearly someone in the Bush camp has not only stolen the original medal, but the Olympic records as well. John Kerry did locate the ribbon which held the medal which is seared, seared in his mind as having been placed around his neck.
falcon--I will chase you down for that one. Sincerely, FloJo
(that is a joke, not a threat :) )
Oh yeah, the medal was won for France.
IMUS: Yes. I have a picture here of youa pretty attractive photograph of you on the cover of Runners World.
EDWARDS: Yes. And somebody told me you said I hadnt run a real marathon.
IMUS: Well, you havent run New York or Boston, have you?
EDWARDS: No. Are those the only marathons in the country?
IMUS: Well, no, but the marathons you run are treadmill marathons.
I mean, Oprah Winfrey ran the Marine Corps Marathon in Washington.
EDWARDS: Listen, if its 26 miles, it counts.
IMUS: Senator Kerry says he ran the Boston Marathon in the 70s, but he cant recall his time and theres no record of it. And my question is, a guy runs one marathon in his life and he cant remember the time, and I was talking to my sportswriter friend Mike Lupica and he said, Are we looking at a Boston Marathon Veterans for Truth ad situation here?
That was Rosie Ruiz in 1980.