Posted on 10/05/2004 7:48:14 PM PDT by CurlyBill
BY MELANIE BENNETT
Staff Writer
A Russell County fifth-grader is convinced bones found in her home last weekend belong to a mysterious friend who told her about being chopped up years ago.
Investigators have few clues about how and when the bones got inside insulation under the living room floor of the mobile home on Jowers Road, near East Alabama Motor Speedway.
The 10-year-old, Stephanie Ogden, and her family have lived in the home since 1998. Her great-grandparents, John and Marion Stewart, own the home.
The bones were found Saturday as the Ogdens, who are renovating the home, pulled up boards in the living room floor. Russell County Sheriff's Lt. Heath Taylor said an initial analysis shows the bones are from the pelvis and leg of a child at least 10 years old, and the child has been dead at least 10 years.
Another bone was found Sunday, Marion Stewart said. The area where the bones were found had duct tape over the insulation, Stewart said.
"There's an odor there that doesn't belong," Stewart said.
The bones probably don't have enough marrow to do DNA tests, Taylor said. Because the trailer has been moved several times between Georgia and Alabama, investigators now are faced with the daunting task of trying to track down missing children from a wide area in two states.
Taylor said gnaw marks on the bones may indicate a rodent placed them inside the insulation. Dirt and plant material on the bones indicate they were outside at one time, Taylor said.
Stephanie said a black girl in a white dress started visiting her room when she was about 5 years old. The girl was friendly, but she told Stephanie a horrible story.
"She told me that somebody put her in the floor," Stephanie said. "She said he had a mask on, and that he chopped her up. She didn't know who the person was, because he had a mask on."
Stephanie, a fifth-grader at Dixie Elementary School, now thinks that the bones that were found in her home belong to her playmate.
"It's possible because that girl was a ghost," Stephanie said Monday. "Nobody knows about them."
Marion Stewart said Stephanie used to tell her family about the visitor, but the adults always dismissed the stories as being an imaginative child's fabrication based partly on horror movies. Stewart said Stephanie used to always ask for two glasses of soda when she would play outside -- one glass for her and one for her friend.
Stewart said the weekend's grisly discoveries have convinced her that her great-granddaughter's playmate is actually a tormented soul seeking peace.
"I'm not a psychic, and I don't believe in some of that stuff," Stewart said. "But I believe this is a soul who has not been put to rest."
Taylor said detectives can't base their work on ghost stories.
"Do you have any idea how hard it is to investigate a ghost?" he said Monday.
Investigators are looking through databases of missing children to find any links to the trailer's location, but Taylor doesn't hold out much hope of solving the case.
"It's just one of those cases where there's just not a lot to go on," he said.
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I didn't think anything could be scarier than John Edwards in the debate, but this story has Eddie beat.
cool story
What gets me is the idea this child has been talking about something(someone) for five years before they found the bones. Creepy.
They should have the little girl look at photos of missing African-American girls of that age, from that time period, in those areas, and see if she finds her "friend." Then they could see if the connection pans out. Not only would it not hurt in a case with few leads, it might go a long way to proving that ghosts exist.
A little relevant to this story, my brother and I used a TV left there by another tenant, but the knob was missing (remember those?), so we had to use pliers to change the channel.
A few years later, we moved into another house. My brother was in my room while I read a story and complained of a bump in his sleeping bag. We finally cut it open and found the knob!! No seams broken, no hole - but it still fit the TV....freaked us out.... We were not nearly as calm as this girl with real human bones in her floor! Wow....
Fascinating story....
Creepy stuff. Sent a shiver up my spine.
This is a great story, thanks for posting it. It's that time of year, isn't it? The part I find creepy is that animals drug the bones in from elswhere and that the child has been dead more than 10 yrs. There was dirt and plant material on the bones. Are you thinking buried and dug up somehow? Maybe a shallow grave somewhere? What if the bones can be dated to MUCH older than the trailer? Wouldn't that be interesting?
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I used to carry a Zippo my father gave me, and it disappeared and reappeared so often that my friends and I called it "Boomerang." I would put in on my dresser or some other place, and when I went back for it, it would be gone. I got to where I just wouldn't worry about it, and pretty soon, it would turn up in some weird place.
The last time it happened, I was rooming with a friend of mine, and left it on my dresser. It was gone when I went back for it. I looked for it like I always did, in the floor, in the drawers, behind the dresser, etc., and didn't find it. When I moved out and went back to Texas, I looked all over for it. I couldn't find it.
After I left, he remodeled my room, and turned it into a dining area. He remodeled the kitchen and other parts of the house, and didn't find it. One day, months later, he called and told me I'd never believe what he'd found. He came home from work, and right in the middle of the kitchen floor was my zippo. It had spots of heavy corrosion on it like you'd see on a car battery or something. He mailed it back to me, I cleaned it up, and then I bought a new lighter and put that one away.
This reaaaally creeps me out. As the Charlie Daniels song goes, there's just some things in this world you just can't explain.
"For absent homies... < spill >"
He's been known to pull this stunt before a jury in a medical case.
This film was released 5 years ago (and got a lot of publicity):
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167404/
"I see dead people". Maybe she does and maybe she just wants to.
Except for the fact that the remains are those of a ten-year-old black girl who disappeared about 10 years ago? Are there that many missing persons who fit that description in the area?
I wonder if Stephanie would ask her friend what her first and last names are?
Well, I thought this was pretty creepy till I read your post. Come to think of it, that does seem a reasonable question to ask.
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>I didn't think anything could be scarier than John Edwards in
>the debate...
Edwards...heck, this is scarier than the picture of Susan Estrich on the other thread!
Makes you wonder about all those "imaginary playmate" stories...
I'm having a hard time disbelieving young Stephanie. However, Stephanie's impression the ghost was black American -- could also be due to the deceased having resided in a dark place prior to her death. There are lots of cues inside an apparition, or rather, an impression. Be interesting to learn what the investigators learn.
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A good story for Halloween.
Hmm, there are several questions in this story. How could there be an odor after 10 years? If there was duct tape, it was a person, not a rodent, that put the bones there. Why isn't there enough DNA if the bones were large enough for the family to determine they were human? The person the grandparents bought the trailer from should be the first questioned. On the other hand, could the little girl have witnessed the crime and it's coming out as fantasy?
Wonder why this made me think of y'all.
Good story....thanks.
Not necessarily for a 5 year old, which is what she was at the time.
All good points, except that I didin't get the impression that it was being suggested that the rodents PUT the bones in there, but rather that they had access to the bones at some point, which would explain why they were chewed.
See, that makes no sense.
I think it was just badly worded. I think the writer meant, placed the rodents with the bones.
"Because the trailer has been moved several times between Georgia and Alabama"
Jeff Foxworthy, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Well, I may be wraithery like, but as far as I know I ain't dead yet.
Thank you for ping - love ghost stories!
Heh heh heh heh heh *spooky laugh*
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Welcome.
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BTW - tonight on the Sci-Fi Channel, they have two new shows on. The first is called Proof Positive. This is right down my alley. This show tries to check paranormal claims out using science. Since I'm a skeptic, this is exactly the type of show that I like to watch. Unlike those who only set out to debunk, I keep an open mind and actually hope that some of these things are true. It makes life all that more interesting.
Yeah, this somewhat reminds me of that show that was on recently... I believe it was called "Haunting in Atlanta." That was one where the little girl met an older man in her backyard. At first her parents were concerned it was a child molester trying to lure the girl away... but then he began appearing to the girl in the house when the parents were home. She even named the man.... and as it turns out, there was a man who lived in the area by that same name. Even more creepy is the fact that she picked his photo out of a bunch that they showed her.
darned rodents are pretty smart to move those bones and then cover the spot with duck tape.
I saw that one, too. Spooky.
This murder will be solved.
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"Do you have any idea how hard it is to investigate a ghost?" he said Monday."
How much wouldja be willing to bet that the nice detective started his search with missing little black girls?
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A great variation on the same theme (Resurrection Mary, vanishing female hitchhiker from Chicago):
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