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Reporter Held in Contempt in CIA Probe
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Posted on 10/07/2004 1:03:22 PM PDT by marineguy

This is an article that I think deserves some attention. Trust me, I have no love lost over a New York Times reporter getting a little jail time for outing a CIA-type, regardless of the fact that the CIA officer is married to an idiot, but why is it that the lukewarm "conservative"(?) Robert Novak can do the outing and no one seems to want to hold his feet to the fire?

By CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - A federal judge held a reporter in contempt Thursday for refusing to divulge confidential sources to prosecutors investigating the leak of an undercover CIA (news - web sites) officer's identity.

U.S. District Judge Thomas F. Hogan ordered New York Times reporter Judith Miller jailed until she agrees to testify about her sources before a grand jury, but said she could remain free while pursuing an appeal. Miller could be jailed up to 18 months.

Hogan cited Supreme Court rulings that reporters do not have absolute First Amendment protection from testifying about confidential sources. He said there was ample evidence that U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald of Chicago, the special prosecutor in the CIA leak case, had exhausted other avenues of obtaining key testimony before issuing subpoenas to Miller and other reporters.

"The special counsel has made a limited, deferential approach to the press in this matter," Hogan said.

Fitzgerald is investigating whether a crime was committed when someone leaked the identity of CIA officer Valerie Plame, whose name was published by syndicated columnist Robert Novak on July 14, 2003. Novak cited two "senior administration officials" as his sources.

The Novak column appeared after Plame's husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, was critical in a newspaper opinion piece of President Bush (news - web sites)'s claim that Iraq (news - web sites) sought to obtain uranium in Niger. The CIA had sent Wilson to Niger to investigate that claim, which he concluded was unfounded.

Miller's lawyer, Floyd Abrams, said he would quickly file notice of an appeal of Hogan's ruling with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. He and Miller both noted that although she gathered material for a story about Plame, she never wrote one.

"I think it's really frightening when journalists can be put in jail for doing their job effectively," Miller told reporters outside the courthouse.

Fitzgerald also has issued subpoenas to reporters from NBC, Time magazine and The Washington Post. Some have agreed to provide limited testimony after their sources — notably Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who is Vice President Cheney's chief of staff — released them from their promise of confidentiality.

Miller and Bill Keller, the Times' executive editor, said they would not agree to provide testimony even under those circumstances.

Novak never has said whether he has been subpoenaed.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; cialeak; nova

1 posted on 10/07/2004 1:03:22 PM PDT by marineguy
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To: marineguy

The DUmmies think this is the Dems Oct surprise ...


2 posted on 10/07/2004 1:05:19 PM PDT by Hazzardgate
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To: Hazzardgate

The only surprise (to Dims) is that Wilson outed Plame. Wilson, the self-absorbed egomaniac that he is, was worried that world wouldn't take his anit-Bush charges seriously. So to increase his credibility, he told some reporters "if you don't believe me, ask my wife. She's a CIA agent!" (Or words to that affect.)

Novak can't disclose that because he wants to protect his sources and he knows that MSM won't believe him. NYT can't disclose because they don't want to help Bush/Cheney.


3 posted on 10/07/2004 1:10:21 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: marineguy

We have held her in contempt for some time now.


4 posted on 10/07/2004 1:14:31 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Has anyone else heard the rumors about Miller and Saddam Hussein ? (Supposed to have happened quite a few years ago.)


5 posted on 10/07/2004 1:16:18 PM PDT by somerville
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To: marineguy

bump


6 posted on 10/07/2004 1:24:41 PM PDT by woofie
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To: marineguy
Robert Novak can do the outing and no one seems to want to hold his feet to the fire?

Please pay attention, people! This prosecutor is long past that point. It's clear there's a deeper conspiracy here amongst the media and the NYT is deep into it.

7 posted on 10/07/2004 1:26:12 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Steven W.

whats your speculation?


8 posted on 10/07/2004 1:27:14 PM PDT by woofie
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To: marineguy

=== but why is it that the lukewarm "conservative"(?) Robert Novak can do the outing and no one seems to want to hold his feet to the fire?


Because they want only the left to be outraged over this.


9 posted on 10/07/2004 1:27:46 PM PDT by Askel5 ( Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. )
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To: marineguy

This is an clear Republican dirty trick. Kerry needs every one at the NYT making stuff up in his favor that he can get and, in a close race, even one NYTer not fabricating could mean the difference!


10 posted on 10/07/2004 1:31:58 PM PDT by Tacis (When Kerry Farts, You Can Hear McAuliffe's Voice And Smell Lockhart's Breath!)
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To: Steven W.

unless there is a paper trail, they will never be able to establish anything by expecting media people to rat each other out. it just will not happen. the media is like an organized crime family, the only way they could break them is wiretaps, or some family member rating them out.


11 posted on 10/07/2004 1:36:01 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: somerville

not me. tell!!!


12 posted on 10/07/2004 1:39:29 PM PDT by tazannie
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To: oceanview

I am lost in this story...what is everyones motivation beyond the obvious?


13 posted on 10/07/2004 1:40:04 PM PDT by woofie
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To: woofie

You can bet the farm that if the leaker were a highly placed official in the administration that the NYT would be shouting it from the rooftops by now.

Dollars to doughnuts it was a Dem holdover.


14 posted on 10/07/2004 1:43:52 PM PDT by IGOTMINE (The internet is the most empowering tool invented since Sam Colt created the revolver.)
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To: woofie

either it was an innocent revelation at a cocktail party by Wilson, that Novak decided to include in a story. Or, it was some structural plan with INTENT by Wilson along with members of the media to gin up a story - perhaps they even thought they could get an impeachment inquiry out of it.

either way, nobody from the media will talk and tell the complete truth. they have infinite money for lawyers to help them cut deals to reveal partial truths. and none of it will be enough to reveal the larger plot (if such exists).

Now, tell me that the prosecutor has some hard evidence: documents, wiretaps, a witness that has turned, emails - then I will change my mind.


15 posted on 10/07/2004 1:44:50 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: IGOTMINE

there is no leaker - Wilson revealed it.


16 posted on 10/07/2004 1:45:25 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

If I were the prosecutor, I'd simply say "no deal" until someone flipped.

The judge is gonna keep folks in jail until they are no longer in contempt.


17 posted on 10/07/2004 1:46:14 PM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Any thoughts/insights on this one PD?


18 posted on 10/07/2004 1:46:21 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: oceanview

I heard Bill Gersh on Rush the other day talking about the culture of the left that is deep in the CIA and State Dept. I think there is a huge behind the scene battle occuring.


19 posted on 10/07/2004 1:50:28 PM PDT by woofie
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To: tazannie

That Judith Miller and Hussein slept together . Heard this from a pretty reliable source - a New York journalist.


20 posted on 10/07/2004 3:22:25 PM PDT by somerville
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To: somerville
I am flabergasted!
21 posted on 10/07/2004 3:26:19 PM PDT by tazannie
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To: tazannie

Kind of disgusting, isn't it ?

I am a journalist, in NY media circles myself, and this is a pretty strong rumor. Wonder if it will ever be checked out by mainstream media ? I do think it should be checked out.

I am a very honest reporter and wouldn't have mentioned it unless there was a strong possibility that it were true. Hope someone checks this story out.


22 posted on 10/07/2004 3:44:16 PM PDT by somerville
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To: somerville

I'm not doubting your honesty or credentials, but why don't you check out the rumor yourself, since you are a journalist in New York?


23 posted on 10/07/2004 4:07:34 PM PDT by Pres Raygun
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To: marineguy

Since Novak has not been jailed we naturally assume he was not subpoenaed. Upon further reflection though, I think it is likely he has already testified as to who told him, with the permission of his source. His source may have then identified others who had previously revealed Plames identity, which was according to many Washington insiders one of the worst kept secrets in Washington. This could explain why the investigation has widened.


24 posted on 10/07/2004 4:12:24 PM PDT by Pres Raygun
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To: Pres Raygun

"Why don't you check the rumor yourself, since you are a journalist in New York ?"

I believe I will. One of my colleagues relayed this to me, and I will ask for her source.

I wouldn't go on record unless I really really verified this , cause it's an ugly ugly disgusting rumor. Nevertheless, it's travelling widely in NYC journalistic circles.

Is anyone else out there interested in finding out the veracity of this rumor ?


25 posted on 10/07/2004 4:19:53 PM PDT by somerville
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To: somerville

Good luck. If you get the story and publish it, post it here and ping me.


26 posted on 10/07/2004 4:22:26 PM PDT by Pres Raygun
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To: Pres Raygun

I'm a relative newbie here. What exactly does "ping me "mean ? Does it mean "alert" you ?

FYI - I am a very good reporter, but to decide to put my energy into this rumor requires some support.In my experience, it is very difficult if one doesn't feel one has the support of someone.

But one step at a time. I will ask my editor tomorrow where she heard the report about Miller and Hussein.


27 posted on 10/07/2004 4:27:24 PM PDT by somerville
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To: marineguy
Cross linking the Reuters article/thread.
28 posted on 10/07/2004 4:32:16 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: Askel5

I save my outrage for wrongdoing. Novak did a service by writing up why Wilson was assigned to venture Niger way.

I have long posited that there was an unseemly and unethical motive for that assignment and I remain convinced that the grand jury investigation is not of what conventional wisdom states.

After all, if there was no crime committed in the revealing of Plame's "name" (they mean employer) and she really wasn't covert, then they obviously are looking at something else.

It is plain that her "name" was given to reporters by those friendly to the Wilsons (one reporter has stated flatly that a democrat told him) by way of explaining the otherwise inexplicable, not the Wilson claim that the wife was "outed" in some kind of bizarre "retaliation".


29 posted on 10/07/2004 4:37:52 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: woofie

The Wilsons lied about the reason, scope and results (such as they were) of his trip to Niger. They sought to cast the trip as definitely refuting Iraq seeking yellowcake in Niger when it did no such thing.

They lied for a reason and that was to bring down the Bush administration.

The media was complicit in that they reported the story according to Wilsonian talking points when the documented state of the record could easily reveal the problems with his tall tale.


30 posted on 10/07/2004 4:42:06 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: Poohbah

Tim Russert and Matt Cooper have already been held in contempt and both cut deals to give limited testimony to get out of it.

I predict Miller will do the same.


31 posted on 10/07/2004 4:46:47 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: Pres Raygun
Since Novak has not been jailed we naturally assume he was not subpoenaed.

No, "we" don't. I assume he has testified.

32 posted on 10/07/2004 4:47:53 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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To: somerville
Ping means to use another Freeper's user name in the "To" section of a post. A hyperlink in red stating "New Post To You" will appear on the forum page on the top right. If the user that was pinged clicks on that link it will take him or her to a page with the latest posts to and from that Freeper. Since I've posted to you, you should have that link in the upper right of the latest posts page.
33 posted on 10/07/2004 5:48:15 PM PDT by Pres Raygun
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To: cyncooper

Actually I agree with you and if you read all of my post #24 I think you will see I made it clear that I also believe he has testified.


34 posted on 10/07/2004 5:52:27 PM PDT by Pres Raygun
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To: Pres Raygun

I did jump on your first sentence and posted in haste. I did see your entire thinking and indeed, we agree.

Interesting investigation, imo.


35 posted on 10/07/2004 5:56:17 PM PDT by cyncooper (Have I mentioned lately that I despise the media?)
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