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Communication Workers & Postal Workers Oppose War in Iraq [No Mail or Telephone Calls for Troops?]
The Labor Educator ^ | October 7, 2004 | Bronc1

Posted on 10/08/2004 2:00:19 AM PDT by Bronc1

No Mail or Telephone Calls for Troops? Communication Workers & Postal Workers Oppose War in Iraq

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: army; carriers; communication; iraq; labor; letter; marines; navy; organized; postal; postmen; union; usaf; workers
No Mail or Telephone Calls for Troops? Communication Workers & Postal Workers Oppose War in Iraq

LABOR AND THE WAR — September 10, 2004

Three More Major Unions Oppose U.S. War and Occupation in Iraq

The growing antiwar movement within the AFL-CIO took another leap forward in the past two weeks when three major unions passed strong resolutions at their recent conventions, opposing the U.S. war in Iraq and calling for an end to the American occupation. They are Communications Workers of America (650,000 members), American Postal Workers Union (270,000) and Mail Handlers of the Laborers' International Union (50,000).

They join the Service Employees International Union (1,6 million) American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (1.2 million) and the International Longshore and Warehouse Workers (60,000), who have also denounced President Bush for his pre-emptive invasion of Iraq and declared they support our troops and want them to be brought home safely, NOW.

In addition, the anti-war movement within the AFL-CIO includes the huge California, Washington State and Maryland/DC federations, which together account for more than 3 million union members. In the past year, dozens of labor councils, regional labor bodies and local unions have taken similar action.

Also in the last few weeks, all of the AFL-CIO's allied organizations have condemned the war in Iraq and called for the immediate return home of U.S. soldiers. They include the Asian Pacific American Labor Alliance, the Labor Council for Latin American Advancement, the Coalition of Labor Union and Pride at Work.

The driving force in building and guiding the anti-war movement is U.S. Labor Against the War (USLAW). Its Web site is www.uslaboragainst war.org.

The CWA resolution won the near-unanimous approval of the 1,400 convention delegates on Aug. 31, with more than 50 of them lined up to speak in favor of an amended version, a key paragraph which read: "CWA demands that the President abandon his failed policy (of preventive war) which has made our nation less — not more — secure, and support our troops and their families by bringing our troops home safely now, by providing adequate veterans' benefits and promoting domestic policies that prioritize the needs of working people who make up the bulk of the military."

After sharply criticizing President Bush for the invasion of Iraq and his post-war policies, delegates at the APWU convention on Aug. 23-27 approved a resolution that stated: "Resolved, the American Postal Workers Union, AFL-CIO calls for an end to the U.S. occupation of Iraq, the implementation of a plan to turn over sovereignty to the people of Iraq as soon as possible, and the return of U.S. troops to their homes and families."

At the National Postal Mail Handlers convention, held Aug. 22-29 in Boston, an anti-war resolution was approved by the delegates, despite its rejection by the Resolutions Committee. A caucus of delegates worked out an amended version based on an article in The New York Times that swayed the delegates to favor the resolution.

What was unusual about the delegates is that more than 40% of them were veterans. The reason for the disproportionate number of union veterans is due in large part to the hiring preferences given to veterans and disabled soldiers by the U.S. Postal Service.

At one point, the names of hundreds of union members currently serving in Iraq were scrolled across the huge movie screen in use at the convention. The amended resolution reads:

"While the National Postal Mail Handlers Union offers its full support for the American troops currently serving in Iraq, the NPMHU also calls for a rapid end to the war and occupation of Iraq. The war and occupation were undertaken based on false claims of the anti-worker Bush administration and have resulted in the death of over 900 American troops and over 10,000 Iraqi civilians. The war and occupation have caused U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars which could be redirected to pay for badly needed social needs, such as jobs, education, housing, and health."

Since the conclusion of the three union conventions, the number of American soldiers killed in Iraq has passed the 1,000 mark and, as of today, stands at 1,005.

Our weekly "LaborTalk" and "Labor and the War" columns can be viewed at our Web site www.laboreducator.org. Union members who seek information about the AFL-CIO rank-and-file reform movement should visit www.rankandfileaflcio.org.

1 posted on 10/08/2004 2:00:20 AM PDT by Bronc1
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To: Bronc1

I saw that as well. US postal workers? Grrrrr


2 posted on 10/08/2004 2:03:27 AM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: Bronc1

Vietnamization is in full gear.


3 posted on 10/08/2004 2:05:32 AM PDT by NTegraT
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To: endthematrix

Well this explains why mail to my sons APO address is not getting though in a timely manner.


4 posted on 10/08/2004 2:07:17 AM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: Bronc1
While the National Postal Mail Handlers Union offers its full support for the American troops currently serving in Iraq,...

Liars.

5 posted on 10/08/2004 2:08:16 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Hey! They've got lettuce today. Oops, that's not lettuce...)
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To: Bronc1

That's a misleading title.


6 posted on 10/08/2004 2:08:21 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Bronc1

Anyone tampering with either mail or wire communication should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.


7 posted on 10/08/2004 2:08:26 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (02NOV04 - Welcome to reality Senator Kerry)
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To: boxerblues

Also, wanna bet how many military ballots just don't happen to get where they're supposed to go in time for anything.


8 posted on 10/08/2004 2:09:59 AM PDT by NTegraT
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To: ProudVet77

they know how to get around the tampering, they simply push it back until it is the last piece of mail to sort.


9 posted on 10/08/2004 2:10:04 AM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: NTegraT

My youngest has been in Iraq since Aug. I mail out boxes twice a week to him and letters every other day. As of this past Monday he has received 2 boxes and 0 letters. His whole unit is complaining of the same thing. We thought it was was because they were new but apperently this is not the case.


10 posted on 10/08/2004 2:12:15 AM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: boxerblues

That is outrageous. I wonder if the military has taken to using the sea lanes? How long is it taking to get from your son to you? Thank you son for me, will ya?


11 posted on 10/08/2004 2:16:22 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Bronc1

http://www.uslaboragainstwar.org

12 posted on 10/08/2004 2:17:43 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Bronc1

Let them try striking. I think there are enough people on our side who believe in the war who will cross their lines and fill in their positions. I know that I, for one would work a shift above and beyond my current job to do this. I cannot believe these monsters would betray their country like this and refuse our men and women the comfort of getting letters and calls from home. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.


13 posted on 10/08/2004 2:20:51 AM PDT by LadyJMayo
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To: leadpenny

Son prefers to use email to write us, which is fine. His unit is trying to find out what is happening with the mail, we ship priority mail so it should only take 2-3 days to get to the coast and another 5-7 days into Iraq. After reading this Im wondering if there isnt some other reason why they are not getting the mail.


14 posted on 10/08/2004 2:23:24 AM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: LadyJMayo

For the first time in years, rank-and-file members are feeling good about their unions’ future. At long last, it seems possible to reverse the disastrous plunge in membership, from 23% of the nation’s workforce in 1980 to 13.9% today. True, union density in the private sector has fallen to 9.4%, its lowest point in nearly 65 years, but finally there are some signs that unions have started growing again.

So Why the Huge Defeats?

Most members probably don’t realize that unions lost more than half of the NLRB representation elections held in fiscal years 1995-98 — 5,907 out of 11,131. In fact, unions haven’t won more than 51.2% of those elections in any single year since 1980.

During the same 1995-98 period, the figures for decertification elections, in which unions were thrown out by their own members, were even worse. Unions were defeated in 1,268 out of 1,834 such elections, resulting in a 31% win rate and the loss of 47,358 members.

Surely, these figures should have set off alarm bells, but AFL-CIO leaders haven’t even acknowledged them. Instead, they point out that organized labor gained 265,000 members in 1999 and claim that unions have finally turned the corner after decades of decline. But 65,000 of those 265,000 were new members of the National Education Assn., not affiliated with the AFL-CIO. Another 74,000 joined the Service Employees International Union after it won a statewide card-check victory for California home care and nursing home workers.

In their speeches and official publications, AFL-CIO leaders only talk about victories and never mention defeats.


15 posted on 10/08/2004 2:23:45 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: boxerblues

I salute you and your son for the sacrifices you are making for us, even for those who don't deserve it.


16 posted on 10/08/2004 2:24:27 AM PDT by NTegraT
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To: boxerblues
God bless your son, God bless you. Here is a link to a page with all the members of the
Armed Services Committee You probably want to stick Republican, though I'm not saying a Democrat on the committee would actually do anything underhanded as to mail, they might not investigate too quickly maybe. Also, you might try contacting Zell Miller, he's a bear on messing with the military.

Those declarations by those unions almost sound like a communist manifesto.

17 posted on 10/08/2004 2:32:20 AM PDT by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences..they don't teach that in school now)
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To: Bronc1
After sharply criticizing President Bush for the invasion of Iraq and his post-war policies, delegates at the APWU convention on Aug. 23-27 approved a resolution that stated: "Resolved, the American Postal Workers Union, AFL-CIO calls for an end to the U.S. occupation of Iraq, the implementation of a plan to turn over sovereignty to the people of Iraq as soon as possible, and the return of U.S. troops to their homes and families."

Okay! Lets see . . .
"an end to the U.S. occupation of Iraq": DONE - 1 July 2004 (or was it June??)
"the implementation of a plan to turn over sovereignty to the people of Iraq as soon as possible": DONE - Final Phase started 1 July 2004, ends when the elections are held in January 2005.
"and the return of U.S. troops to their homes and families": Does this include the troops in Korean (50 years and counting), Germany (60 years and counting) and other places as well?

"CWA demands that the President abandon his failed policy (of preventive war) which has made our nation less — not more — secure, and support our troops and their families by bringing our troops home safely now, by providing adequate veterans' benefits and promoting domestic policies that prioritize the needs of working people who make up the bulk of the military."

Oh, boy . . .
Can the CWA provide some concrete evidence that the US is LESS secure due to the President's actions?
"and support our troops and their families by bringing our troops home safely now": See my comment above regarding Korea & Germany.
"by providing adequate veterans' benefits": I believe this is the responsibility of the CONGRESS.
"promoting domestic policies that prioritize the needs of working people who make up the bulk of the military.": are you refering to civilian contractors or military personnel? I would contend that ALL military personnel are "working people" and thier "needs" are not exactly the same as "domestic" civilian needs.

18 posted on 10/08/2004 2:33:10 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: Ruth C; NTegraT

thanks I will pass it on.

ruth thanks for the links I will take a look at them later and will be writing several people.


19 posted on 10/08/2004 2:35:23 AM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: endthematrix

Take heart. Unions say and do lots of things, unfortunately paid for with union dues. But when they vote, union workers don't do it en masse. Maybe in the past, and maybe in certain crafts...auto workers way back when, but not now. Ronald Reagan blew a big hole in that one.


20 posted on 10/08/2004 2:38:14 AM PDT by hershey
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To: boxerblues

I know very little about how mail is supposed to get to Iraq from the States but if it is going through APO AE (Europe), that may be the bottleneck.


21 posted on 10/08/2004 2:45:10 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Bronc1

Just more union thugs. Nothing to see here, move along.

Oh, and if you are a union goon - THIS is one of the reasons that union memberships continual to fall. Non-union types like thinking for themselves.


22 posted on 10/08/2004 2:46:19 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: boxerblues

As an experiment, you might try shipping something by express mail. Yes, it is expensive, but you can track it and maybe get some idea where the blockage is.


23 posted on 10/08/2004 2:48:26 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Heinz-Kerry: "The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch.")
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To: hershey
LOL! Yeah, SEIU takes their cut for an ANTI America, from my paycheck. They are pro Commie healthcare and illegal alien. Also had signed NION and this "million workers" toilet paper. I think they are totally corrupt!
24 posted on 10/08/2004 2:55:33 AM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: boxerblues
Don't be misled: just like a lot of teachers do not agree with the wacky NEA leadership, many Postal workers do not agree with their Union leaders' politics. And, because many employees are former military, they are NOT anti-military and are not secretly conspiring to hold up APO mail.

APO mail is slow--but not because it gets held up stateside. Remember, the military works for Uncle Sam just like Postal workers do. Being anti-government employee is as knee-jerk as being anti-military: it tars way too many with a brush that paints a miserably false picture.

25 posted on 10/08/2004 3:43:29 AM PDT by milagro
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To: Fresh Wind
I worked (until I recently retired) in a Post Office in a small community. Mail going to military bases overseas was treated exactly the same as other mail: it went out the same day it came in. Express mail--to any APO--does NOT have a guarantee of service as it does going to a domestic address, and that has been the case for years. We have NO control over delivery once it gets to a military facility, and from what I heard from various family members that is where the delays in delivering mail took place.

This is not to blame the military--but, especially during combat in 2003, mail to overseas APO's was often delayed because other items--such as equipment--were given higher priority. We had several people tell us letters and packages to their loved ones would arrive all at once--and they had been mailed days, even weeks, apart.

That being said, I am DISGUSTED with the APWU for its anti-Bush BS--and they will not get another dime from me!!!

26 posted on 10/08/2004 4:01:36 AM PDT by milagro
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To: milagro

I know APO mail is ridiculously slow, but he has received none of the many letters that were written and only 2 boxes out 16 that have been sent. We had better service when the war was going on with our oldest son. the USPS service is only responsible to getting to the military mail service, we pay the extra money for priority service just so it will stay in the airmail system


27 posted on 10/08/2004 4:19:18 AM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21
As a Current CWA 6215 member this kind of crap is what is causing members to leave in droves. The union newsletter after the 2000 elections came out wailing about how 49% of CWA membership voted for President Bush. And yet CWA still gives over 99% of it's monies to the demoRats.

I even have to deal with the union GESTAPO at work when I bring in magazines for the break room. The other day they were going to throw away all the gun magazines because they had the "wrong message". He was even going to take the magazines to management in hopes of getting me fired, (gee, a union steward reporting a fellow worker to management....

Fortunately, the chief steward here, while a screaming Democrat, will listen to reason and was willing to smack the idiot steward down hard.

Semper Fi

28 posted on 10/08/2004 7:17:44 AM PDT by dd5339 (A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
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To: ProudVet77
I agree!!!! And Fired pdq!!!.

There are laws against messing around with people's mail and their communications over wire.

Not to mention they are unpatriotic and need to be thrown out of the country. Labor groups have no business messing in the politics of our country's wars and international relations.

grrrrrrrrrrrrr

29 posted on 10/08/2004 7:22:51 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor
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To: milagro


At the Postal facility in which I work we have four employees on active duty at this moment. We also have had drives to collect articles to send to troops serving in the Middle East. With so many of us being veterans ourselves, I can't understand how people could believe that Postal employees, or communication workers, would be inherently anti-military.


30 posted on 10/08/2004 4:55:04 PM PDT by Route797
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To: Bronc1

Sometimes I hate my union.


31 posted on 10/10/2004 6:42:02 PM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

I can say with absolute certainty that union leaders are worse than the worst CEO. They got their facts right in the comedy "Armed & Dangerous" when they showed how their union was run.


32 posted on 10/10/2004 6:44:27 PM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: DustyMoment

I'm a union member but you're essentially right. US laws have evolved to take the thunder from a union. I myself pay the CWA 700$ a year and this is what I get.

I'm gonna have to fire off a letter to them about this.


33 posted on 10/10/2004 6:45:28 PM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: dd5339

CWA 3410 here. Got my lavender/purple card in my hand right now. And you're absolutely right. Most of our guys while not all staunch conservatives are typically conservative leaning. the 49% figure sounds about right.


34 posted on 10/10/2004 6:48:58 PM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: Bogey78O

Are the delegates to these conventions shop stewards or rank and file? And do the stewards get paid in addition to their company paycheck? Or do they only receive money from the union?

Not trying to start anything. Just trying to learn and put this in perspective. I can't imagine the rank and file being of the same rabid persuasion as the union leaders.


35 posted on 10/10/2004 7:08:36 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Got Wood?)
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