Ask John Kerry where the Botulinum toxin went....
Posted on 10/08/2004 11:15:20 AM PDT by Razorism
Iraq made almost 20,000 liters of botulinum toxin, much of which was placed into munitions and missile warheads. ...Botulinum toxin: Botulinum toxin is the most poisonous substance known - the average man would only have to inhale about 70 billionths of a gram for it to be fatal. Eighty percent of victims die within 1-3 days of being infected.... A person with botulism would exhibit weakness, dizziness and disinterest within the first few days after exposure,...Abrupt respiratory failure is usually the cause of death...Iraq declared that it produced 8445 liters of anthrax, and inspectors determined that at least three times this much could have been produced with the equipment and growth media Iraq had at its disposal....One gram of dried anthrax spores has been estimated to contain about 10 million lethal doses
(Excerpt) Read more at wmdconsulting.us ...
Some destroyed most went to Syria... probably some got to Al-queida and it is just a matter of time before they will try and use them...
check the beka valley
Whatever happened to those three boats the US was watching? Remember those?
Why aren't we hearing about this in the MSM? Bush had better bring this up tonigt; if not, I would seriously entertain the idea that he is sabotaging his re-election bid.
Isn't it obvious that all of the botulism toxin (BOTOX) went into Kerry's face.
Hard call, to say the least. What bothers me is how easily the world is discounting the very strong possibility that many of SH's weapons, went over the border into Syria for prompt burial. There also exists the possibility that weapons may still be deep down under in Iraq, yet to be discovered. There are all still viable possibilities ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR.
The number of possible scenarios is endless really, but the scare factor is that the holders of these stockpiles could just be waiting for the war on terror to weaken (ala Kerry becomes President) before the holders open up the weapons for sale to richest terror organization.....
Yet the mindless masses that keep saying "the war on terror is not important" will be the first to suffer if the premise is correct. As the long standing saying has it...we have to be RIGHT ALL THE TIME in our decisions...the TERRORISTS ONLY HAVE TO BE RIGHT ONCE !!!!!
They're in Syria
when I eat jalapeno white castles and some onion chips with horseradish mustard, I qualify as a biological weapon :)
Do I understand that some of the rationale for saying "It was all destroyed a decade ago" is based on interviewes with Saddam? Do we not think Saddam knows how to influence an American election? Does Saddam not know that his best ticket out of prison is a Kerry election?
Shalom.
Saddam was awfully fond of burying stuff.
If you read the ISG's Report Summary, there's a lot of assumptions that S/H didn't do the logical thing with his C/B weapons program (like make C/B weapons).
I agree with tomnbeverly- they're in the Baaka Valley and in the hands of al Queda.
Remember the foiled attack on Amman? Who else in that region has the ability to produce those C/B weapons? Maybe the Israelis gave it to al-Q?
Well, I just got into town about an hour ago
Took a look around, see which way the wind blow
-John Kerry
my brother had a novel idea - maybe they were burning in the smoke of those oil fires around baghdad before the war.
"What really happened to Iraq's biological weapons?"
The highest-ranking official to confirm that WMDs went to Syria is James Clapper Jr., the head of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency. He “said satellite images showing a heavy flow of traffic from Iraq into Syria just before the American invasion in March had led him to believe ‘unquestionably’ that illicit weapons material was moved outside Iraq”
http://www.worldthreats.com/middle_east/Missing%20Iraqi%20WMD.htm
I am always surprised to hear people say that these weapons are easily moved or hidden, yet still insist that invading Iraq was an effective countermeasure to them.
BUMP!
"Whatever happened to those three boats the US was watching? Remember those?"
We caught them, and the terrorist-in-charge is talking. Read the new book out - Shadow War by Richard Miniter.
Very good question.
According to the perp the Jordanians captured:
Jordanian authorities said the attack would have mixed a combination of 71 lethal chemicals, which they said has never been done before, including blistering agents to cause third-degree burns, nerve gas and choking agents.More info here: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/04/26/jordan.terror/
You need refrigeration for the bot toxin. You can have fairly small seed stocks that are then put in larger vessels to grow. It seems that the Iraqis had trouble weaponizing the toxins they had.
Interesting time line. Someone should ask Jimmy Carter about which strain of anthrax he gave Hussein.
08/14/80 (20 each), Ministry of Health for College, Bacteria/ Fungi, not further identified 09/11/80 (45 each), University of Baghdad, Bacteria/Fungi/ Protozoa, Virus/Viroids (15 each), not further identified
We can't find the biological weapons for one reason: This is President Bush's fault! John Kerry and John Edwards have a Plan to find the biologic weapons Saddam Hussein didn't have.
If it was the case that the chemicals found by the Jordanians was weapons grade material then it would have been breaking news via the Pentagon and especially the ISG. The Jordanians recovered vast quantities of off the shelf chemicals and pesticides, but not weapons grade nerve agents. Jordan would have given the US full access to the chemicals found for testing. Not one Pentagon report has come out that any of those chemicals found was weapons grade chemicals from battle field weapons. If it was the case then President Bush or Rumsfeld would have been broadcasting it to the world.
What you say makes sense except for the fact that I can't name any "off-the-shelf" blistering agents, nerve gas or choking agents. Can you?
The bugs for a biological WMD program could have been put on dry ice or in liquid nitrogen in a couple of coolers and driven in the back seat of a car to Syria. I have grown bacteria that were lyophilized (freeze-dried) 20 years earlier.
Why aren't we hearing about this in the "OLD MEDIA"
You are reading from a report written by a journalist. If you hadn't already noticed Sarin nerve agent was produced by that Japanese cult and used in the subway attack in Japan during 1995. The Jordanians released footage video footage of a home-built chemical factory near the city of Irbid, Jordan. The Jordanian authorities also conducted a test using the same combination of chemicals that they recovered. The test involved rabbits located downwind of the chemical bomb exploded. This test explosion produced a toxic cloud which killed the rabbits placed downwind. With enough pesticides and other commercially bought chemicals a locally effect chemical bomb can be constructed. Believe me if this was weapons grade nerve agent the the US and ISG would have been all over it like a flash and President Bush would have been informing the American public. If they had recovered a cache of 155mm primed chemical howitzer shells then we could all start jumping up and down, but this was simply a foiled chemical attack using a cocktail of commericial chemicals.
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