Skip to comments.JOHN KERRY'S RELIGION
Posted on 10/08/2004 1:54:12 PM PDT by Diago
JOHN KERRY'S RELIGION September 28, 2004
by Joe Sobran
In his convention acceptance speech, John Kerry made a brief, vague reference to his "faith" and skipped over the subject even more quickly than he did his political career. A few months ago, it appeared that Kerry might have trouble with some Catholic bishops if he tried to take Communion, because of his consistent advocacy of abortion.
But Kerry and his defenders insisted that he was a Catholic in good standing, and the issue faded away. Still, there were unanswered questions about how seriously Kerry took his Catholicism. Had he gotten his first marriage annulled before marrying Teresa Heinz? Why did he attend Protestant services instead of Catholic Mass, even taking communion in the Protestant rites -- things Catholics have always been forbidden to do?
A long profile of Mrs. Kerry in THE NEW YORKER casually answers some of these questions. Judith Thurman writes, "After a brief courtship, a short period of cohabitation, and the signing of a prenuptial agreement, the Kerrys were married in a civil ceremony on Nantucket in 1995."
There is a world of meaning here for Catholics, and for anyone who takes Kerry's professions of faith seriously. He and his wife, both baptized Catholics, are living together in defiance of Catholic teaching. In the eyes of the Church, their marriage is invalid: Catholics may not marry outside the Church. The issue of abortion aside, the Kerrys are both ineligible to receive Communion.
Catholic rules on this are ancient and firm. They are no longer firmly enforced, since the Second Vatican Council has created (or been used to spread) the false impression that the "old rules" have somehow lapsed. In fact, annulments are now scandalously easy to obtain. It's become common for long-married couples with several children to get rulings that their marriage never existed. Annulments, once rare, have become the Catholic answer to no-fault divorce.
Which makes it all the more remarkable that Kerry didn't bother to wait for an annulment (which he claims to have belatedly applied for recently) before marrying the widowed Teresa Heinz. This confirms the suspicion that Kerry is, in fact, a thoroughly secularized man, whose regard for Catholicism is minimal.
And if Kerry takes Communion in Catholic churches, he is, in Catholic eyes, committing the grave sin of sacrilege -- receiving the Body of Christ unworthily, as St. Paul puts it. This would also make him a hypocrite.
Some Catholic moral theologians argue that a prenuptial agreement makes a marriage invalid as well, since it shows that the parties are already contemplating divorce. They are supposed to be committing themselves to an indissoluble union. Nor may they cohabit before marrying.
To Catholics, all this is far more significant than the details of Kerry's war record. He has tried to represent himself as a faithful Catholic, when he simply is not, and he knows it. His long record of promoting abortion is only part of the picture.
Kerry has belatedly scrambled to say he disapproves of abortion, but nothing in his record gives the slightest hint of moral reservations about killing the unborn. This is simply the pro forma "personally opposed" gesture of nominally Catholic liberal politicians, as familiar as it is empty. Kerry in fact has favored even grisly late-term abortions, which the late Senator Patrick Moynihan, otherwise another pro-abortion Catholic, bluntly called "infanticide." The crushing of an infant's skull in the birth canal, with the extraction of its brain, isn't something to which you should merely be "personally opposed"; it's something that should make you sick.
But what else should we expect of a liberal Massachusetts Democrat who has always idolized the Kennedys? In 1960, when John Kennedy became the first Catholic to be elected president of the United States, some people worried that he would act as a tool of the Vatican. Nobody need have the least worry that President John Kerry would let his Catholicism slow him down. Neither did President Kennedy, but we would learn that only much later.
Kerry's religious ambiguity is one large reason he seems so hard to pin down. What does he really believe, and what difference does it make? He hasn't been pressed on his religious views as he has been on his Vietnam days, but he has featured his religion too as a key part of his makeup. It would be no intrusion on his privacy to ask him, politely, how his voting record would be different if he were non-Catholic -- or, for that matter, anti-Catholic.
Read this column on-line at "http://www.sobran.com/columns/2004/040928.shtml".
Wow. That's the most rational article by Mr. Sobran that I've read in years.
When will the church put its foot down on this nonsense of Kerry?
The swift boats pressed him about vietnam the media defended him. The Catholic Church has taken him to task and again the Anti-Catholic media defended him, do we see a pattern here, Yet they say bush lost the debate stop.
I'm much more comfortable with a candidate who keeps his personal beliefs out of his decisions as someone in public office. America is not a theocracy. Bush and his 'pipeline to God' disgust me.
Conservative Christianity (at least the kind that's in the White House) is a faith motivated by fear and it will NEVER take over this country.
Your anti-Christian bigotry and hatred is well represented in the modern Democratic party.
I thought Bush was evil because he was a middle aged whited male. Who knew, you troll.
Its impossible to separate personal beliefs and decisions. Personal beliefs are the underpinning for values and morals.
I'm perfectly comfprtable with Mr. Bush's belief system. Nobody knows what Kerry believes, including Kerry.
That's a profoundly ignorant thing to say; I really have difficulty believing that you're not a troll with a flamethrower re: this thread. Have some sense.
So, in your estimation, how exactly is someone to make decisions in public office? Should a Senator or Representative, take a constituent poll every time they make a vote?
No! An elected official should vote their personal beliefs on the matter. If someone believes abortion is wrong, then vote against it, if they believe it's okay, then they should vote for it.
I am a Conservative Christian. Yet, I would take an atheist who voted by their personal beliefs, over someone like Kerry, who claims Christianity, yet holds none of the beliefs of Christianity (or at least you can't see their supposed beliefs in how they vote).
I really doubt there are any wolves dressed in sheep's clothing in the churches. If they want in the church why would they dress up like sheep?
George W. Bush is a born-again Christian; john faux kerry is a hollywood christian.
But Kerry and his defenders insisted that he was a Catholic in good standing,...? Kerry and his defenders insisted that all of his medals were earned, Kerry and his defenders insisted that the swift boat vets were lying, Kerry and his defenders insisted that Bush made all the wrong choices by going into Iraq, Kerry and his defenders insisted that he WAS in Cambodia, Christmas of 1968, Kerry and his defenders insisted, Kerry and his defenders, Kerry and his defenders blah, blah, blah....we`ve heard it all before. Why does Kerry NEED defenders? Can`t he defend himself?
Kerry servers one master but being a fool he thinks that master is a generous one - sorry Kerry that master hates those created by his nemesis and will burn those who come to him your future is without hope!
That is one scary looking troll, looks like he could be from one of the Night Gallery episodes. I could put him in my garden to keep away the possum that keeps trying to eat the cat food.
My crazy Chocolate Lab took care of our possum. Of course, he played possum, but he hasn't come back either after being carried around the yard for ten minutes and shaken like a dust mop.
The exchange rate for possums, BTW, is two Nutro Chicken and Rice Sticks each.
And I brushed the dog's teeth and wiped her mouth with Listerine. Possums smell NASTY - especially on an affectionate dog's breath!
It is well documented that Kerry is a liar and a traitor. We can now see that he is also an amoral, sacrilegious hypocrite. How does this guy stand in front of a mirror every morning and not cut his throat while shaving? Only a coward could do that.
In my view, a believing Catholic cannot vote for Kerry under any circumstances. He is a CINO, a member in dubious standing who ignores the rulings of the Pope and the Bishops and can be best described as an unbeliever.
John Kerry is whatever religion will get him the most votes.
I was talking to a friend who is active in the Republican Party in Nueces County (where Corpus Christi is located). He says he was amazed at the number of homes in heavily Hispanic parts of Nueces County with "Catholics Against Kerry" signs in their yards.
They have not yet been force-fed 30+ years of brainwashing by nazi-feminists on TV.
Nobody by that name.
That was fast.. : )
TV is so old media. The leftists are running scared, because they no longer control all the cultural and information choke points. Look at it this way. CBS spends hundreds of millions of dollars a year on their news programming. Free Republic spends $250 - $350 thousand. The new media can run rings around the dinosaur old media.
I'll see your possum, and raise you one raccoon.
Oh. So now he is a muslim?
NOT find is what I meant to write -- oops
We would NOT find such a large percentage of pro-choice Catholics in the churches now, if it where not for the last 30 years of television, radio and women's magazines.
# 24 It is well documented that Kerry is a liar and a traitor. We can now see that he is also an amoral, sacrilegious hypocrite. How does this guy stand in front of a mirror every morning and not cut his throat while shaving? Only a coward could do that.
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First of all, he doesn't stand in front of a mirror to shave. One of his 'butlers' does his shaving. Second of all, there probably are no mirrors at his houses. If there were mirrors, the 'lady' would know her hair is unkempt and needs a good brushing, and sKerry would know his hair looks like it's pasted on.
Coward? Apt description of JFKerry.
The Church is responsible for that nonsense. It forfeited anything resembling Catholic doctrine at the Second Vatican Council, and for more than 30 years has been a proponent of "feel-good, get-along-with-everybody" religion (which is NOT Catholicism). Whenever a good priest calls for restoration of doctrine and devotion, he is shunted off to some remote outpost or lowly duty, while the pederasts, idolaters, apostates, and outright heretics "rise through the ranks."
The popes, cardinals, and bishops of the last 35 years are the ones who created the Kerrys of today.
later, Joe Sobran
Gee, I thought early on he told us he follows the teachings of Pope Pius XXIII?
Man, that is still one of the dumbest things ever to come out of anyone's mouth.
His "war record, personal life and faith" are what SHAPES his politics, so you better MAKE them of interest to you.
wait! I don't understand this. I'm not Catholic so that is probably why. It says he couldn't wait to marry teresa and recently filed for annulment. What does that mean? To a non catholic it sounds like h's a bigamist and I think that is a wrong assumption.
My first clue that his wedding to Tereeeeesa pry wasn't valid was when I read it was on the beach. It's really difficult to get a priest to preside over a wedding that's not in an actual church. You have to get special dispensations from up the "chain of command" and there has to be a good reason for it.
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