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JOHN KERRY'S RELIGION
http://www.sobran.com/ ^ | September 28, 2004 | Joe Sobran

Posted on 10/08/2004 1:54:12 PM PDT by Diago

JOHN KERRY'S RELIGION September 28, 2004

by Joe Sobran

In his convention acceptance speech, John Kerry made a brief, vague reference to his "faith" and skipped over the subject even more quickly than he did his political career. A few months ago, it appeared that Kerry might have trouble with some Catholic bishops if he tried to take Communion, because of his consistent advocacy of abortion.

But Kerry and his defenders insisted that he was a Catholic in good standing, and the issue faded away. Still, there were unanswered questions about how seriously Kerry took his Catholicism. Had he gotten his first marriage annulled before marrying Teresa Heinz? Why did he attend Protestant services instead of Catholic Mass, even taking communion in the Protestant rites -- things Catholics have always been forbidden to do?

A long profile of Mrs. Kerry in THE NEW YORKER casually answers some of these questions. Judith Thurman writes, "After a brief courtship, a short period of cohabitation, and the signing of a prenuptial agreement, the Kerrys were married in a civil ceremony on Nantucket in 1995."

There is a world of meaning here for Catholics, and for anyone who takes Kerry's professions of faith seriously. He and his wife, both baptized Catholics, are living together in defiance of Catholic teaching. In the eyes of the Church, their marriage is invalid: Catholics may not marry outside the Church. The issue of abortion aside, the Kerrys are both ineligible to receive Communion.

Catholic rules on this are ancient and firm. They are no longer firmly enforced, since the Second Vatican Council has created (or been used to spread) the false impression that the "old rules" have somehow lapsed. In fact, annulments are now scandalously easy to obtain. It's become common for long-married couples with several children to get rulings that their marriage never existed. Annulments, once rare, have become the Catholic answer to no-fault divorce.

Which makes it all the more remarkable that Kerry didn't bother to wait for an annulment (which he claims to have belatedly applied for recently) before marrying the widowed Teresa Heinz. This confirms the suspicion that Kerry is, in fact, a thoroughly secularized man, whose regard for Catholicism is minimal.

And if Kerry takes Communion in Catholic churches, he is, in Catholic eyes, committing the grave sin of sacrilege -- receiving the Body of Christ unworthily, as St. Paul puts it. This would also make him a hypocrite.

Some Catholic moral theologians argue that a prenuptial agreement makes a marriage invalid as well, since it shows that the parties are already contemplating divorce. They are supposed to be committing themselves to an indissoluble union. Nor may they cohabit before marrying.

To Catholics, all this is far more significant than the details of Kerry's war record. He has tried to represent himself as a faithful Catholic, when he simply is not, and he knows it. His long record of promoting abortion is only part of the picture.

Kerry has belatedly scrambled to say he disapproves of abortion, but nothing in his record gives the slightest hint of moral reservations about killing the unborn. This is simply the pro forma "personally opposed" gesture of nominally Catholic liberal politicians, as familiar as it is empty. Kerry in fact has favored even grisly late-term abortions, which the late Senator Patrick Moynihan, otherwise another pro-abortion Catholic, bluntly called "infanticide." The crushing of an infant's skull in the birth canal, with the extraction of its brain, isn't something to which you should merely be "personally opposed"; it's something that should make you sick.

But what else should we expect of a liberal Massachusetts Democrat who has always idolized the Kennedys? In 1960, when John Kennedy became the first Catholic to be elected president of the United States, some people worried that he would act as a tool of the Vatican. Nobody need have the least worry that President John Kerry would let his Catholicism slow him down. Neither did President Kennedy, but we would learn that only much later.

Kerry's religious ambiguity is one large reason he seems so hard to pin down. What does he really believe, and what difference does it make? He hasn't been pressed on his religious views as he has been on his Vietnam days, but he has featured his religion too as a key part of his makeup. It would be no intrusion on his privacy to ask him, politely, how his voting record would be different if he were non-Catholic -- or, for that matter, anti-Catholic.

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Read this column on-line at "http://www.sobran.com/columns/2004/040928.shtml".


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1 posted on 10/08/2004 1:54:12 PM PDT by Diago
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To: Diago

Wow. That's the most rational article by Mr. Sobran that I've read in years.


2 posted on 10/08/2004 1:57:44 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake; Raquel; kstewskis; Victoria Delsoul; GirlShortstop
excellent post!

When will the church put its foot down on this nonsense of Kerry?

3 posted on 10/08/2004 2:01:15 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Diago

The swift boats pressed him about vietnam the media defended him. The Catholic Church has taken him to task and again the Anti-Catholic media defended him, do we see a pattern here, Yet they say bush lost the debate stop.
w2004
ciao


4 posted on 10/08/2004 2:01:32 PM PDT by italianquaker (CATHOLIC AND I VOTE)
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I'm much more comfortable with a candidate who keeps his personal beliefs out of his decisions as someone in public office. America is not a theocracy. Bush and his 'pipeline to God' disgust me.

Conservative Christianity (at least the kind that's in the White House) is a faith motivated by fear and it will NEVER take over this country.


5 posted on 10/08/2004 2:02:02 PM PDT by pearl15
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To: pearl15

Your anti-Christian bigotry and hatred is well represented in the modern Democratic party.


6 posted on 10/08/2004 2:04:16 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: pearl15

I thought Bush was evil because he was a middle aged whited male. Who knew, you troll.


7 posted on 10/08/2004 2:05:30 PM PDT by evolved_rage (And his commentary is as useless as lipstick on a pig!)
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To: pearl15
I'm much more comfortable with a candidate who keeps his personal beliefs out of his decisions as someone in public office. America is not a theocracy. Bush and his 'pipeline to God' disgust me.

Do you expect any office holder to simply go on what the polls say vs his conscious? I'll take a man with faith any day.
8 posted on 10/08/2004 2:06:54 PM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: pearl15

Its impossible to separate personal beliefs and decisions. Personal beliefs are the underpinning for values and morals.

I'm perfectly comfprtable with Mr. Bush's belief system. Nobody knows what Kerry believes, including Kerry.


9 posted on 10/08/2004 2:07:16 PM PDT by OriginalChristian (www.catholicsagainstkerry.com Kerry's NOT EVEN CLOSE to being Catholic.)
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To: pearl15

That's a profoundly ignorant thing to say; I really have difficulty believing that you're not a troll with a flamethrower re: this thread. Have some sense.


10 posted on 10/08/2004 2:09:04 PM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: pearl15

11 posted on 10/08/2004 2:11:13 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: pearl15

So, in your estimation, how exactly is someone to make decisions in public office? Should a Senator or Representative, take a constituent poll every time they make a vote?

No! An elected official should vote their personal beliefs on the matter. If someone believes abortion is wrong, then vote against it, if they believe it's okay, then they should vote for it.

I am a Conservative Christian. Yet, I would take an atheist who voted by their personal beliefs, over someone like Kerry, who claims Christianity, yet holds none of the beliefs of Christianity (or at least you can't see their supposed beliefs in how they vote).


12 posted on 10/08/2004 2:12:28 PM PDT by Kidan (www.krashpad.com)
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To: Diago

I really doubt there are any wolves dressed in sheep's clothing in the churches. If they want in the church why would they dress up like sheep?


13 posted on 10/08/2004 2:13:16 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (Now is THE time for all good men to turn Off CBS, NBC, ABC)
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To: Diago
Kerry is a Catholic in Name Only (CINO) and no Catholic should be voting for him because of his stance on abortion!

Catechism of the Catholic Church on abortion

15 posted on 10/08/2004 2:13:42 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Diago

George W. Bush is a born-again Christian; john faux kerry is a hollywood christian.


16 posted on 10/08/2004 2:14:56 PM PDT by E=MC<sup>2</sup> (Vote demonrat: get your fair share of someone else's lifeblood.)
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To: pearl15
Furthermore, Christians have no fear. Our faith is motivated by gratitude to God for life, as He is the author of life. What is there to be afraid of? You say it will never take over, but consider that currently over one BILLION people on this planet are Catholic. Several million others are professed Christians. I'd say it already has. It is the hate and fear mongerers that will never succeed, because God is not on their side.

Whether you believe in God yourself or not is your free will only because God arranged it that way. I assure you will meet him someday. I hope that meeting bodes well for you. I hope it bodes well for us all.

Peace be with you.
17 posted on 10/08/2004 2:15:41 PM PDT by OriginalChristian (www.catholicsagainstkerry.com Kerry's NOT EVEN CLOSE to being Catholic.)
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To: Diago

But Kerry and his defenders insisted that he was a Catholic in good standing,...? Kerry and his defenders insisted that all of his medals were earned, Kerry and his defenders insisted that the swift boat vets were lying, Kerry and his defenders insisted that Bush made all the wrong choices by going into Iraq, Kerry and his defenders insisted that he WAS in Cambodia, Christmas of 1968, Kerry and his defenders insisted, Kerry and his defenders, Kerry and his defenders blah, blah, blah....we`ve heard it all before. Why does Kerry NEED defenders? Can`t he defend himself?


18 posted on 10/08/2004 2:15:43 PM PDT by infidel29 (Before the political left, we were ALL right.)
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To: Diago

Kerry servers one master but being a fool he thinks that master is a generous one - sorry Kerry that master hates those created by his nemesis and will burn those who come to him your future is without hope!


19 posted on 10/08/2004 2:15:56 PM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: AnAmericanMother

That is one scary looking troll, looks like he could be from one of the Night Gallery episodes. I could put him in my garden to keep away the possum that keeps trying to eat the cat food.


20 posted on 10/08/2004 2:17:16 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (Now is THE time for all good men to turn Off CBS, NBC, ABC)
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To: Esther Ruth
He's a genuine Norwegian Good Luck Troll.

My crazy Chocolate Lab took care of our possum. Of course, he played possum, but he hasn't come back either after being carried around the yard for ten minutes and shaken like a dust mop.

The exchange rate for possums, BTW, is two Nutro Chicken and Rice Sticks each.

And I brushed the dog's teeth and wiped her mouth with Listerine. Possums smell NASTY - especially on an affectionate dog's breath!

21 posted on 10/08/2004 2:19:57 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Diago
"The crushing of an infant's skull in the birth canal, with the extraction of its brain, isn't something to which you should merely be "personally opposed"; it's something that should make you sick."

We have every right to oppose a law that we deem immoral and wrong. John Kerry has stated that he believes that Life begins at Conception, but that belief cannot intervene in his political decision making. Huh? This is the ultimate flip-flop at the expense of the most vulnerable, the unborn child. What is wrong with this guy? A faithful Catholic, I don't think so.
22 posted on 10/08/2004 2:20:41 PM PDT by Raquel (Liberals abide by a standard all their own.)
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To: Diago

It is well documented that Kerry is a liar and a traitor. We can now see that he is also an amoral, sacrilegious hypocrite. How does this guy stand in front of a mirror every morning and not cut his throat while shaving? Only a coward could do that.


24 posted on 10/08/2004 2:27:27 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: Diago

John Kerry's true religion!

25 posted on 10/08/2004 2:27:40 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Diago

In my view, a believing Catholic cannot vote for Kerry under any circumstances. He is a CINO, a member in dubious standing who ignores the rulings of the Pope and the Bishops and can be best described as an unbeliever.


26 posted on 10/08/2004 2:28:17 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: Diago

John Kerry is whatever religion will get him the most votes.


27 posted on 10/08/2004 2:28:51 PM PDT by dfdemar
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To: sandyeggo; NYer; saradippity; Marcellinus; OriginalChristian; Diago; Kidan; Esther Ruth; ...
Bishop Bishop Gracida, of Corpus Christi TX does a good job of outlining what should be done about politicians like Kerry who insist on calling themselves Catholic while aiding and abetting the killing of babies:

I was talking to a friend who is active in the Republican Party in Nueces County (where Corpus Christi is located). He says he was amazed at the number of homes in heavily Hispanic parts of Nueces County with "Catholics Against Kerry" signs in their yards.

catholicsagainstkerry.com

29 posted on 10/08/2004 2:40:23 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

They have not yet been force-fed 30+ years of brainwashing by nazi-feminists on TV.


30 posted on 10/08/2004 2:43:23 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (Now is THE time for all good men to turn Off CBS, NBC, ABC)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Pearl15
Nobody by that name.

That was fast.. : )


31 posted on 10/08/2004 2:45:37 PM PDT by The Mayor (The Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.)
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To: Esther Ruth
They have not yet been force-fed 30+ years of brainwashing by nazi-feminists on TV.

TV is so old media. The leftists are running scared, because they no longer control all the cultural and information choke points. Look at it this way. CBS spends hundreds of millions of dollars a year on their news programming. Free Republic spends $250 - $350 thousand. The new media can run rings around the dinosaur old media.

32 posted on 10/08/2004 2:49:15 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Esther Ruth
That is one scary looking troll, looks like he could be from one of the Night Gallery episodes. I could put him in my garden to keep away the possum that keeps trying to eat the cat food.

I'll see your possum, and raise you one raccoon.

34 posted on 10/08/2004 2:51:13 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Maybe that was a Norvee-shen troll at #5. The reasoning was similar to that of the publik-skoo-ills. Find the LEAST common denominator and mandate and insist that all operate from that basis, a dumbing down of the standards for judgment and a mandate that everyone must also lower their bars to THE lowest of levels, to be fair of course.
35 posted on 10/08/2004 2:51:49 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (Now is THE time for all good men to turn Off CBS, NBC, ABC)
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To: dfdemar
John Kerry is whatever religion will get him the most votes.

Oh. So now he is a muslim?

36 posted on 10/08/2004 2:53:20 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Paleo Conservative
We would now find such a large percentage of pro-choice Catholics in the churches now, if it where not for the last 30 years of television, radio and women's magazines.

A blessing in disguise for the Hispanic community is that they did NOT partake of this garbage over the last 30 years and therefore have been saved from it's evil influence.
37 posted on 10/08/2004 2:57:45 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (Now is THE time for all good men to turn Off CBS, NBC, ABC)
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To: Paleo Conservative

NOT find is what I meant to write -- oops

We would NOT find such a large percentage of pro-choice Catholics in the churches now, if it where not for the last 30 years of television, radio and women's magazines.


38 posted on 10/08/2004 3:02:27 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (Now is THE time for all good men to turn Off CBS, NBC, ABC)
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To: fanfan
"I'll see your possum, and raise you one raccoon."

Afraid I am not going to be any good at "Rodent Poker".
We got not stinkin raccoons or squirrels or rabbits.
Just possums and skunks.

How many points for a coyote? Any?
39 posted on 10/08/2004 3:06:37 PM PDT by Esther Ruth (Now is THE time for all good men to turn Off CBS, NBC, ABC)
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To: caisson71

# 24 It is well documented that Kerry is a liar and a traitor. We can now see that he is also an amoral, sacrilegious hypocrite. How does this guy stand in front of a mirror every morning and not cut his throat while shaving? Only a coward could do that.
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First of all, he doesn't stand in front of a mirror to shave. One of his 'butlers' does his shaving. Second of all, there probably are no mirrors at his houses. If there were mirrors, the 'lady' would know her hair is unkempt and needs a good brushing, and sKerry would know his hair looks like it's pasted on.

Coward? Apt description of JFKerry.


40 posted on 10/08/2004 3:12:09 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (This Tagline a gift to a political conservative with flight experience in the Air Guard.)
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To: Northern Yankee
> When will the church put its foot down on this nonsense

The Church is responsible for that nonsense. It forfeited anything resembling Catholic doctrine at the Second Vatican Council, and for more than 30 years has been a proponent of "feel-good, get-along-with-everybody" religion (which is NOT Catholicism). Whenever a good priest calls for restoration of doctrine and devotion, he is shunted off to some remote outpost or lowly duty, while the pederasts, idolaters, apostates, and outright heretics "rise through the ranks."

The popes, cardinals, and bishops of the last 35 years are the ones who created the Kerrys of today.

41 posted on 10/08/2004 3:16:03 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Tax-chick

later, Joe Sobran


42 posted on 10/08/2004 3:21:25 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If you stand very still, they may think you're a tree.)
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To: OriginalChristian
Nobody knows what Kerry believes, including Kerry.

Gee, I thought early on he told us he follows the teachings of Pope Pius XXIII?

Man, that is still one of the dumbest things ever to come out of anyone's mouth.

43 posted on 10/08/2004 3:35:53 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: Lutonian

His "war record, personal life and faith" are what SHAPES his politics, so you better MAKE them of interest to you.


44 posted on 10/08/2004 3:36:24 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: Diago

wait! I don't understand this. I'm not Catholic so that is probably why. It says he couldn't wait to marry teresa and recently filed for annulment. What does that mean? To a non catholic it sounds like h's a bigamist and I think that is a wrong assumption.


47 posted on 10/08/2004 3:52:30 PM PDT by queenkathy
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To: sandyeggo

My first clue that his wedding to Tereeeeesa pry wasn't valid was when I read it was on the beach. It's really difficult to get a priest to preside over a wedding that's not in an actual church. You have to get special dispensations from up the "chain of command" and there has to be a good reason for it.


48 posted on 10/08/2004 3:53:31 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: Diago
JOHN KERRY'S RELIGION

I think he's a polytheist.

He acts as though he and his wife's bank account were deities.
50 posted on 10/08/2004 3:54:53 PM PDT by VOA
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