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Kerry Supporters Running Automated Scripts to "Win" online polls
Poll Fixing - Example from Linux Today ^ | self

Posted on 10/08/2004 8:33:14 PM PDT by Enlightiator

Kerry is winning the online polls on the debate by such a huge margin, as with the last debate, that its quite obvious that poll spamming by www.DemocratsUnderground.com isn't the cause. In the past, Freerepublic provided online poll links, DU provided online poll links, and it was usually a spirited but decent contest.

Tonights online polls, as with the last debate, indicate that there are certainly far more sophisticated techniques being used to falsely inflate the Kerry vote than DU's normal multiple voting techniques. I have watched CNN and MSNBC go dramatically into a huge (and unbelievable) lead in only minutes. Automated voting scripts are the only thing that would cause such an imbalance so quickly. Its been done before by computer hacks:

Fixing Polls: An Open Letter to MSNBC.com

Looks like Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe has the good fortune to have some real good computer support working the case for Kerry's online polls. Well, Terry did send an email request for "voters," he didn't say they had to be human.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheater; corruptdems; kerry; napalminthemorning; onlinepolls; seconddebate; whybother
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1 posted on 10/08/2004 8:33:14 PM PDT by Enlightiator
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To: Enlightiator

Did somebody say something about online voting?


2 posted on 10/08/2004 8:34:36 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (Please don't put me on your ping list just because I replied to one of your posts. Thank you.)
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To: Enlightiator

Join in and swing the polls to show 99 to 1 in favor of Kerry...then it will highlight the uselessness of online polling with the DU'ers around.


3 posted on 10/08/2004 8:34:52 PM PDT by An American!
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To: Enlightiator

Screw those losers.


4 posted on 10/08/2004 8:35:03 PM PDT by Nat2004
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To: Enlightiator

FoxNews is over 70% kerry.

What kind of "scripts" do this and why don't websites block them, anyway?


5 posted on 10/08/2004 8:35:20 PM PDT by Salamander (Pirates of the Appalachians)
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To: Texas Eagle

Bump!


7 posted on 10/08/2004 8:35:26 PM PDT by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: Enlightiator

Good. Online polls are stupid. Maybe people will ignore them after this.


8 posted on 10/08/2004 8:35:51 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: Enlightiator

Hmm. I'd be interested to know whether there's some way of demonstrating this theory with some numbers, times, and the like.

An alterntive theory would be that the media are cooking their own polls. It's not hard to pump up the numbers when you have direct access to the servers.

Could be an interesting idea to send around the blogosphere.


9 posted on 10/08/2004 8:36:05 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Salamander

But where is THE PLAN?


10 posted on 10/08/2004 8:36:34 PM PDT by Nat2004
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To: ottoblock

what an inteelligent hack you are.


11 posted on 10/08/2004 8:37:12 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i dropped in on)
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To: ottoblock

Bye troll.

You DU rump ranger.


12 posted on 10/08/2004 8:37:15 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: An American!

I think u got something!!!....They cant win the election...*LOL*...give 'em a bone!!!


13 posted on 10/08/2004 8:37:24 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Enlightiator

A new Democrat constituency - voting bots, can now join other such groups like the "metabologically challenged" and "unregistered foreign workers".


14 posted on 10/08/2004 8:37:53 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country -John Edwards)
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To: Enlightiator; All

speaking of the DU crowd anyone how they are recacting to the debate? I know some like to peak in there every so often I just can't stomache thier crap.


15 posted on 10/08/2004 8:37:55 PM PDT by Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok (I'm mad as Zell and I'm not going to take it anymore!)
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To: All

Moderator, it's time to pull this thread or cancel this jerks subscription.


16 posted on 10/08/2004 8:38:07 PM PDT by pctech
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To: An American!
Join in and swing the polls to show 99 to 1 in favor of Kerry...then it will highlight
the uselessness of online polling with the DU'ers around.


That's what I've decided to do.
17 posted on 10/08/2004 8:38:11 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Enlightiator
Automated voting scripts are the only thing that would cause such an imbalance so quickly.

How about a group of human automatons riled up by the Soros front groups?

vote - clear cookie - vote -clear cookie ...and on, and on...

18 posted on 10/08/2004 8:38:23 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: An American!

AMEN

Who cares about on-line polls?


19 posted on 10/08/2004 8:38:25 PM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: clee1

that premature stuff...that's the only pleasure the DUmpsters will have starting 11/3.... :)


20 posted on 10/08/2004 8:38:32 PM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: An American!

'Join in and swing the polls to show 99 to 1 in favor of Kerry...then it will highlight the uselessness of online polling with the DU'ers around.'

now THAT is a good idea. The only alternative is to have every Freeper clean cookies and vote over and over for 2 days to beat them in this poll attack...


21 posted on 10/08/2004 8:38:39 PM PDT by bitt (“Kerry believes that if you rob Peter to pay Paul, Paul will vote for you.”)
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To: Enlightiator
First, DUers are pathetic and can waste their time with that.

Second, you have frenchy morons and other foreigners that can vote.

Third, they are using bots with proxy servers to just cheat the system.
22 posted on 10/08/2004 8:38:40 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Admin Moderator

Cleanup, Aisle 3.


23 posted on 10/08/2004 8:38:43 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Enlightiator

THE DEMS AND LIBS CAN'T BE BEHIND THIS....THEY'RE ALL TOO BUSY HELPING KERRY WRITE HIS PLANS!

WHAT A JOKE!

POLL THIS PAL!


24 posted on 10/08/2004 8:39:05 PM PDT by schouston (Holy Katie, Matt, Al and Ann...Batman.......what a slime!)
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To: swilhelm73
"metabolically challenged"

Deceased-Americans.

25 posted on 10/08/2004 8:39:22 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: Enlightiator

Let's get our own scripts!


26 posted on 10/08/2004 8:39:28 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Thank you Rush Limbaugh-godfather of the New Media.)
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To: Salamander

you run a program like wget or lynx within a looping script and you can saturate the vote count.


27 posted on 10/08/2004 8:40:03 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: swilhelm73

'"unregistered foreign workers".'

as long as they are not 'unregistered foreign VOTERS!'


28 posted on 10/08/2004 8:40:06 PM PDT by bitt (“Kerry believes that if you rob Peter to pay Paul, Paul will vote for you.”)
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To: Enlightiator

Bush will still win the election by 10%.


29 posted on 10/08/2004 8:40:09 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Enlightiator

The Only Poll that counts, is the one in November, when we Go to the Election Polls...and that Poll....by the American Voter will show that George W. Bush will be re elected by a huge margin.


30 posted on 10/08/2004 8:40:20 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

FYI.


31 posted on 10/08/2004 8:40:56 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Enlightiator

I don't understand how this works, but then I am not computer literate. I can operate one as long as all goes well. It is obvious that something it going on since CNN has the poll with Kerry winning at 80%. That is not credible at all, and couldn't just be DU. But then Terry did send out memos because in propaganda, perception is everything.


32 posted on 10/08/2004 8:41:01 PM PDT by ladyinred (The simple lie always conquers the more complex truth. (propaganda))
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To: John Robinson

What day was it we talked about this?

I posted a few findings on this a few days ago. One script from I tihnk 2000 was called Nuclear.


33 posted on 10/08/2004 8:41:34 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: An American!
Join in and swing the polls to show 99 to 1 in favor of Kerry...then it will highlight the uselessness of online polling with the DU'ers around.

Great idea!

REVERSE FREEP.

VOTE FOR JOHN KERRY and show how the online polls are so easily manipulated.

34 posted on 10/08/2004 8:42:04 PM PDT by Enlightiator
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To: Conservative_boy_in_Bangkok

They are going batshiite right now.

I looked in for a minute, but I had to leave before I ruined another keyboard.


35 posted on 10/08/2004 8:42:31 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: God luvs America

Uh huh.


36 posted on 10/08/2004 8:42:49 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Texas Eagle

Agree.....My comment also......electronic ballots ? I don't think so !


37 posted on 10/08/2004 8:42:53 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

It's up to over 80% Kerry now. People aren't as stupid as the Democrats think they are; they know Kerry got creamed tonight.


38 posted on 10/08/2004 8:43:06 PM PDT by Twinkie
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To: vbmoneyspender

Good grief.
Is there *anything* at which they *don't* cheat?


39 posted on 10/08/2004 8:43:41 PM PDT by Salamander (Pirates of the Appalachians)
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To: An American!
Join in and swing the polls to show 99 to 1 in favor of Kerry...then it will highlight the uselessness of online polling with the DU'ers around.

I agree!! These on-line polls are useless (sort of like the supposed 'scientific, unbiased' polls reported everyday. Push them to the high 90% area for sKerry to prove the point.

40 posted on 10/08/2004 8:43:48 PM PDT by technomage
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To: Enlightiator

Karl Rove is great!!!! He just put Alan Colmes in his place!!!!!


41 posted on 10/08/2004 8:44:19 PM PDT by knitmom
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To: Enlightiator
One of the polls I was on was dated 7 Oct and asked who won tonight's debate. If you are not serious about having a legit poll, don't waste the bandwidth.
42 posted on 10/08/2004 8:44:33 PM PDT by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: Enlightiator

NOW MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, WE WILL UNDERSTAND W-H-Y THE LIBS WANT ON-LINE VOTING. Talk about the greatest opportunity to rig the election...give me a break. Far better than "dangling chads"....arrrgh!!!

I can see the instructions on the screen now....

*MAGIC ADD-A-VOTE SOFTWARE VERSION 2004.0*
Copyright: The Democrat National Committee -- All Rights Reserved

Press F1: to add 100,000 votes to Florida
Press F2: to add 300,000 votes to Washington
Press F3: to detract 500,000 votes from Texas
Press F4: to add 5000 votes from deceased voters
Press F5: to add 1,000,000 votes from illegal aliens

........


43 posted on 10/08/2004 8:44:46 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: AmericanMade1776

The only the way the dems can win is to cheat. They must feel so good about it ;}. What a bunch of losers! Hey DU! Stinks to be U! If you love winning so much- why not become a member of the GOP!!


44 posted on 10/08/2004 8:44:50 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross
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To: Howlin

Yea I saw. Mentioned this the other day that libs are using these. Oh well.


45 posted on 10/08/2004 8:45:08 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Enlightiator

Yeah, Chrissy Matthews just looked rather silly when he said that 73% of people said Kerry won.

We need to have a coordinated effort here on FR to make sure we are not voting in these polls to make them look even more distorted than they are.


46 posted on 10/08/2004 8:45:55 PM PDT by rocky88 (" John Kerry has no such clear, precise and consistent vision." - Rudy Guiliani)
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To: Enlightiator

I hope the GOP is prepared to fight a massive attempt to steal the election through voter fraud and recounts


47 posted on 10/08/2004 8:46:00 PM PDT by Nova
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To: Enlightiator

Chris Mathspews just said that the MSNBC online poll has Kerry winning tonight's debate 70+% to Bush's 20+%


48 posted on 10/08/2004 8:46:01 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Texas Eagle
Did somebody say something about online voting?

Not me! I prefer we have to vote in person, at least that way only dead people and illegal aliens and criminals get to vote the Democratic ticket. I draw the line at letting a Microsoft PC (or a MAC for the artsy leftie crowd) vote fifty thousand times.

49 posted on 10/08/2004 8:46:03 PM PDT by Enlightiator
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To: Enlightiator
Looks like Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe has the good fortune to have some real good computer support working the case for Kerry's online polls.

This must be the MoveOn folks.

50 posted on 10/08/2004 8:47:48 PM PDT by Helms (nu-ance : [ from KERRY French, from nuer, to Shade the Truth via Language and Subvert Reality])
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