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Fox News Watch--What did they just say about Carl Cameron?
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Posted on 10/09/2004 4:12:19 PM PDT by spitlana

I looked for a thread on Fox News Watch, and didn't find one. Was anyone watching? At the end of the show, they mentioned Carl Cameron being accused by the Kerry campaign of being biased. Something about inadvertantly posting an email on his website regarding Kerry's manicure prior to the first debate. I may not have heard it right--does anyone know anything about this?


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1 posted on 10/09/2004 4:12:20 PM PDT by spitlana
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To: spitlana

It had to do with the "joke" memo he wrote while tired and/ore bored, and accidentally posted on line earlier in the week. Fox pulled it right away and issued an appology to the Kerry campaign. I was surprised to find Campaign Carl still with the team after that. I thought it was posted here earlier in the week, must have been on Drudge.


2 posted on 10/09/2004 4:14:05 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: spitlana

Fabricated Kerry Posting Leads to Apology from Fox News
  Posted by epluribus unum1
On News/Activism 10/03/2004 9:24:40 PM CDT · 29 replies · 1,332+ views


The New York Times ^ | Oct. 3, 2004 | Eric Lichblau
WASHINGTON, Oct. 2 - Plenty of news media analysts thought Senator John Kerry looked good at Thursday night's presidential debate, but Fox News went a step further, posting a made-up news article on its Web site that quoted Mr. Kerry as gloating about his fine manicure and his "metrosexual" appearance. Fox News quickly retracted the article, saying in an editor's note on its Web site that the article "was written in jest and should not have been posted or broadcast.'' It said, "We regret the error, which occurred because of fatigue and bad judgment, not malice."

3 posted on 10/09/2004 4:14:21 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (At CBS - "We don't just report news - we make it - up.")
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To: spitlana

There's a thread here

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1237642/posts

about what Carl did. A tempest in a teapot, but it's got the dems all worked up.


4 posted on 10/09/2004 4:15:03 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (On November 2, keep in mind what mattered most on 9-11.)
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To: spitlana
I didn't hear that. Watch Fox news move even further left.

If only we had a conservative network to watch. As much as I like Brit Hume, I'd turn channels, and never look back.

Rush, are you listening?

5 posted on 10/09/2004 4:15:40 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberalism has metastasized into a dangerous neurosis which threatens the nation's security)
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To: spitlana

Fox still has him under review for the incident, which may result in his dismissal.

Cameron wrote a fake article which was accidently published for a brief time on the FOX News website claiming that Kerry was a "metrosexual" and more concerned about his manicure then the debate....

NeverGore :^)


6 posted on 10/09/2004 4:16:18 PM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Shocking. Someone is biased, and NOT to the left...

The Kerry campaign can just walk it off. It isn't like Kerry will be hurt by it.

Or WILL he? I personally find it stupid in the extreme when a grown man gets a manicure before a debate. Or anytime.


7 posted on 10/09/2004 4:16:56 PM PDT by Judith Anne (First we were digital brownshirts then we were pajamahadeen, now we're the piranha of the internet)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

the thing about what Carl did was a joke and you could clearly read it as a joke.....it had NOTHING to do with "FIXING" a campaign like CBS and ABC.....the freakin NERVE of ABC....I havent heard hardly anything at all about that today and CBS is going to get a pass, they are back up in ratings and such.....its disgusting and discouraging too


8 posted on 10/09/2004 4:21:44 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: spitlana

I have gotten to the point where I can no longer watch Fox News Watch. It's that Neil Gaybler Gobbler. I'm afraid of what I might do to my TV someday. They seriously need someone on that show who would slap that punk...


9 posted on 10/09/2004 4:23:51 PM PDT by LRS
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To: Balding_Eagle

yep, that's why we see evidence this week looking like FoxNews is covering the Kerry Campaign more than the Bush Campaign ... I think FNC is trying to save face and trying to get back to the "middle" as quickly and as quietly as possible. As much as I regret Carl Cameron's "joke" memo, it still is nothing compared to what Dan Rather/CBS News has done, and now with the ABC/Halperin Memo-gate erupting, Cameron's joke seems pretty insignificant.


10 posted on 10/09/2004 4:23:51 PM PDT by mrplind (The greatest threat to the United States is not "terrorism" as we know it, it's liberalism!)
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To: nevergore

"Cameron wrote a fake article which was accidently published for a brief time on the FOX News website claiming that Kerry was a "metrosexual" and more concerned about his manicure then the debate...."

He also leaked some Bush info and PO'ed that campaign. He is a left leaning cannon! Get rid of ol' Blinky!!


11 posted on 10/09/2004 4:24:15 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried!)
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To: lawdude

>>He also leaked some Bush info and PO'ed that campaign.<<

Reference?
Not that I don't believe you but I must have the ammo to fight my flaming leftist SIL.


12 posted on 10/09/2004 4:27:28 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: EllaMinnow
A tempest in a teapot, but it's got the dems all worked up.

Something silly like this will never die, but Dan Rather can continue to tout pathetic forgeries as absolutely true, and nothing ever will happen to him.

13 posted on 10/09/2004 4:29:39 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: spitlana
My email to Fox news on this weeks Fox News Watch on this subject:

Neal Gabler just got on his high horse to denounce Carl Cameron over the Kerry joke script that a clueless web admin mistakenly posted as if it were real. Neal is offended that Carl Cameron is still on the air and covering the Kerry campaign. He won't even mention the vile things Cameorn said, which was to insert supposed "quotes from Kerry" such as "isn't my manicure nice?."

Well, Neal, I've got a shocking fact for you. Dan Rather is still hosting the CBS Nightly News, reporting on the Bush Administration and Mary Mapes is still producing drivel for Sixty Minutes.

Oh, and Neal Gabler is still vomiting up his hatred and insane rhetoric for Fox News.

go figure

14 posted on 10/09/2004 4:30:10 PM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: spitlana
I am heart sick over FOX turning to the dark side...:(
I've been a faithful viewer since it come on the air and sad to say I've don't watch FOX as regularly as I used too. Lots of my FOX friends are being turned off too! If Fox doesn't shape up and get with it, I think MSnbc is slowly beginning to realize FOX has dropped the ball and I'm willing to give MSnbc a shot...SORRY FOX but you are becoming UNBEARABLE to watch! BTW, which reporter is assigned to travel with the Bush campaign? As far as I know, no one!! Little by little FOX is losing viewership...I'm one of them...:(
15 posted on 10/09/2004 4:30:51 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: All
Guys, if you think Fox News is drifting to the left, maybe you should come down a section or two from the upper deck of the right field bleachers.

But don't quit fighting for the good guys.
16 posted on 10/09/2004 4:31:00 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: spitlana

So does this mean that Kerry ISN'T a metrosexual and that he DIDN'T get a manicure?


17 posted on 10/09/2004 4:32:41 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: RoseofTexas

I think it's Jim Angle (Engle?) - he's the WH correspondent on FOX.


18 posted on 10/09/2004 4:36:05 PM PDT by Let's Roll (For a guy who shirks his own job, Kerry sure is eager to tell others what they should do ...)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Not quite the same thing as forging documents for a 60 minutes story.


19 posted on 10/09/2004 4:40:30 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: mrplind

I thought the same thing--Fox is being extra careful after being "perceived" to mock Kerry. This does somewhat explain their leaning away from saying anything nice about Bush past few days. Maybe they were taken to the WOODshed by the higher ups.


20 posted on 10/09/2004 4:42:43 PM PDT by spitlana
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To: Brilliant

And the CBS forged memo story is still on their website!!!


21 posted on 10/09/2004 4:43:57 PM PDT by mrplind (The greatest threat to the United States is not "terrorism" as we know it, it's liberalism!)
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To: RoseofTexas
Wendell G travels with the Bush campaign and reports for them. The You Decided 2004 segment of each FoxNews broadcast goes from one to the other, each having the same amount of time to give info on the particular candidate/campaign. Unlike so many I've watched on other stations, there seems to be no personal attitudes inserted into the reports by them.

IMO, FoxNews is fair and balanced in that they present both sides, bring in speakers for both sides, and let them speak and let us decide. I wonder if the complaints against them being 'too left' aren't because what some want is a conservative biased program to 'balance' the liberal biased programs.

I'm happy with Fox. I am one who wants the information from both sides. I will make my own usual conservative decision, but do give me the information being thrown out by all sides.

22 posted on 10/09/2004 4:48:41 PM PDT by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences..they don't teach that in school now)
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To: LRS

Well, Fred Barnes on the Beltway Boys ate some crow over his comments last night said he read transcript and re-watched debate at home, alone and saw it much differently.


23 posted on 10/09/2004 5:03:02 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Ruth C

Well said Ruth.


24 posted on 10/09/2004 5:03:37 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (W'04)
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To: Ruth C

I was relatively happy with Fox, also, until last night when, after the debate, the panel had the most left-slanted opinions I've ever heard on that channel. I finally changed the channel to MSNBC in disgust and watched Chris Matthews, who was being much more objective in his analysis. Who would've thought??!


25 posted on 10/09/2004 5:10:30 PM PDT by SueAngel
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To: Arizona Carolyn

This is good to know. I was so p*ssed at Fox last night, I refused to watch any of it today. I don't know just what their problem is but part of the solution needs to be getting rid of Kristol. Juan and Mora are transparent fools, but necessary, I guess. Kristol is pathetic.


26 posted on 10/09/2004 5:17:07 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: SueAngel

Well, I was speaking about reporting, not opinion. I do not watch pundits' analyses of debates nor polls. I am my own pundit, I am my own poll. President Bush won the first debate and the second debate. Style has nothing to do with it, unless you let yourself be swayed by some visual thing. When I can, I do not watch debates, I listen. You'd be surprised how much you can tell who is lying and who is not when you can't see the person and have your emotions swayed by style, rather than your reason convinced by substance.


27 posted on 10/09/2004 5:24:10 PM PDT by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences..they don't teach that in school now)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Kristol was very pro Bush until last night. But he's made sharp left turns at the most unexpected times before--so no surprise there. Fred Barnes disappointed me last night, but today on Beltway he admitted he needed to take a second look at who won the debate. Good for him.


28 posted on 10/09/2004 5:27:38 PM PDT by spitlana
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To: mewzilla
So does this mean that Kerry ISN'T a metrosexual and that he DIDN'T get a manicure?

The story may be a fake but the charges are true. What about it, Kerry? Why are you such a giley-man?

29 posted on 10/09/2004 5:31:48 PM PDT by The Renegade
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To: Ruth C

I wish there were more people like you, Ruth. Unfortunately, a lot of people are swayed by other people's opinions and analyses, and even though it's an opinion-based format, many people (I hope it's fewer than I imagine) are swayed by that and wait to hear what the pundits say before making up their minds.

I'm hoping there are more independent thinkers out there, but when I hear that 51% of young people believe that Bush wants to bring back the draft in spite of the facts, I worry that there aren't ENOUGH independent thinkers.


30 posted on 10/09/2004 5:33:47 PM PDT by SueAngel
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To: nevergore

*** Cameron wrote a fake article which was accidently published for a brief time on the FOX News website claiming that Kerry was a "metrosexual" and more concerned about his manicure then the debate. ***

where's the fake part?


31 posted on 10/09/2004 5:34:25 PM PDT by EDINVA (a FReeper in PJ's beats a CBS anchor in a suit every time)
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To: Balding_Eagle

FOX has been trying to make up for the slip all week. They have been bending over backward to be harder on Bush than Kerry.


32 posted on 10/09/2004 5:35:24 PM PDT by Eva
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To: RoseofTexas

Me too. I wrote them a very ugly email today...addressed to Brit Hume. Told him Fox was now on a count down 1 2 3 your out. And they are now between 2 & 3. Told him the conversative base made them the big boys on the block and we can also unmake them. HEADS UP!!! FoxNews!!!


33 posted on 10/09/2004 5:39:45 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: EDINVA

The part about he didn't care about the debate......

NeverGore :^)


34 posted on 10/09/2004 5:41:12 PM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Did he say why he was so off originally?

I watched Chris Matthews because of their comments last night. Only turned the channel back when Sean came on.

If Fox makes Cameron a sacrificial lamb for Kerry and the Dems, that's it. They become classified as one of the "MSM". Cameron wrote a humor piece that wasn't meant to be posted. Rather deliberately conspired with the DNC to destroy the president of the United staes with fraudulent documents. No comparison.

But, if it SHOULD happen, I'm going to start to lobby to have Cameron perform PR for the Bush W.H. I bet he'll LOVE the opportunity to turn the tables on ALL the press that turned on him then.


35 posted on 10/09/2004 5:42:58 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Search is your friend:

A nail-biter for Fox's quotemeister (Carl Cameron)

36 posted on 10/09/2004 5:59:26 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Balding_Eagle
I didn't hear that. Watch Fox news move even further left.

I'm so sick of Fox about now.........that I stopped watching them this afternoon. Every damn poll they talked about had FnKerry ahead of Bush and we all know that our President wiped the floor with that idiot last night.

I'm sick of it.

37 posted on 10/09/2004 6:06:34 PM PDT by SheLion (FnKerry pull's his answer's out of his bony azz. He thinks he is SO SMART! heh!)
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To: Ruth C

Very well stated. From the beginning, Fox News has stated their intent to be fair and balanced. Initially, we were all in "collective euphoria" simply to see ANY view from the right. Because we certainly hadn't seen anything like that from the other cable news networks.

I think it is OUR expectations that Fox will cater ONLY to the right that is disappointing to many. Just my opinion.


38 posted on 10/09/2004 6:13:30 PM PDT by justshe (Become a monthly donor.....eliminate Freepathons!)
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To: RoseofTexas

They've lost my family as well..we stopped watching a few weeks ago.


39 posted on 10/09/2004 6:23:34 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: spitlana

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

40 posted on 10/09/2004 6:24:53 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Just in time for your Halloween gift giving needs: THE book.)
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To: StJacques

AS I'm channel surfing, I pass Fox, nearly everytime I do I hear Kerrys name or see his face.


41 posted on 10/09/2004 6:26:22 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: spitlana

Fred Barnes is a coward. He was jumping on the Kerry won train like all the others. When he heard america say Bush won...he changed his spots. Coward.


42 posted on 10/09/2004 6:32:15 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: shield

it does seem that their rating have slipped a bit lately. they were riding high after the Republican convention.

I think most people tune in to Fox because they are (were) right-leaning. but I don't think they were unfair or misleading the way CBS and ABC are.

maybe a few more days of low ratings will jolt them back.


43 posted on 10/09/2004 6:41:20 PM PDT by tazannie
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To: tazannie
maybe a few more days of low ratings will jolt them back.

This is what I'm hoping too. I've been thinking about this a lot. I'm just wondering if there is not something going on behind the scenes that the public are not privy too. The alphabet news organizations are doing so badly in the ratings...possibly FoxNews is really trying to attract those viewers. Which is a mistake.

Any way time will tell, lets keep our fingers crossed. ;o) In my email I told them when they got rid of Tony Snow and hired bleeding heart liberal Chris Wallace...that should have been a big signal to us all..

Any way time will tell, lets keep our fingers crossed. ;o)

44 posted on 10/09/2004 6:54:16 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: SheLion

We know it because we're all smart enough to know the McAuliff Dems were voting over and over and over again -- while few of us even bothered. I plan to just write to them from now on -- squeaky wheel stuff.


45 posted on 10/09/2004 6:54:54 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Soul Seeker

No, what Fred told Mort was he had gone home watched it again and read the transcript and decided the President was a clear winner.. even Mort didn't 100% disagree so he must have done the same thing.


46 posted on 10/09/2004 7:02:22 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SheLion

Well Freep-Alert... Geraldo is going to have a face-off between Ann Coulter and Susan Estrogen. Coming up soon.


47 posted on 10/09/2004 7:03:39 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: tazannie
TO: all those saying they will switch to MSNBC or something.

I really truly don't understand that mindset, support a view that is totally opposed to the conservative because you are ticked at the 'pundit' contributors' views on FoxNews? Ignore that you get both sides when viewing the news segments so are provided with information you are not getting on the other channels? I perhaps could understand not watching any news at all, but to put your support to a liberal network makes no sense.

This is the attitude that got us the liberal congress for decades which legislated the country more and more left, packed the appellate districts with liberal justices from which candidates are proposed to the USSC and moved the schools more and more to brainwashing our children, social enginerring them rather than educating them, took away are constitutional rights to freely practice our faith. All this because each disparate conservative group was angry that 'their' candidate, i.e. republican, didn't reflect 100% their ideology. That's the way to win, cut off the nose to spite the face!

If you don't like the pundits' 'punditing', then by all means email them with your ire, FoxNews certainly cannot muzzle them, but you can change their tune.

48 posted on 10/09/2004 7:24:45 PM PDT by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences..they don't teach that in school now)
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To: spitlana

Dan Rather did a fundraiser for Dems: he didn't quit. Why should Cameron quit for a lame attempt at humor? If he personally didn't post it online, he shouldn't step down.


49 posted on 10/09/2004 7:28:12 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: SheLion

Anybody remember the days (the year 2000) when Brit Hume read the news and there were little joke comments scrolling at the bottom of the screen, jabs at the Democrats mostly? Such as, Brit Hume reports Clinton said such-and-such, and a joking thread was posted below? Fox has certainly changed since then!


50 posted on 10/09/2004 7:34:05 PM PDT by Ciexyz (At his first crisis, "President" Kerry will sail his Swiftboat to safety, then call Teddy.)
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