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NY Times: Bush Debate Jacket Bulge? Doctored photos? Bias?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1240198/posts ^ | 10/9/04 | Elisabeth Bumiller

Posted on 10/09/2004 8:15:39 PM PDT by lowbridge

According to the NY Times:

"First they said that pictures showing the bulge might have been doctored. But then, when the bulge turned out to be clearly visible in the television footage of the evening, they offered a different explanation."

I recall that theory all over the internet about the possibility of the photo being doctored, but I don't recall Bush or the Bush campaign ever being the ones making that claim. Anyone got a link, a quote, or is the NY Times just blowing biased smoke into our eyes?


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1 posted on 10/09/2004 8:15:40 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

it is called a flack jacket...... it is his body armor ..... jezz


2 posted on 10/09/2004 8:16:56 PM PDT by Gibtx (Pajamahadien call to arms.....)
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To: lowbridge

This is incredible, this is in the NY TIMES??????!!!!!

I heard it was the bullet proof vest. How low is the left going to go? How many "institutions" are they going to take down with them? I can't say the next thing, because the mods would (rightly) take down my post.


3 posted on 10/09/2004 8:17:55 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: lowbridge

Considering it didn't help much, I doubt it will be front page stuff


4 posted on 10/09/2004 8:18:01 PM PDT by MJY1288 (KERRY SAYS WE MUST PASS A GLOBAL TEST IN ORDER TO DEFEND OURSELVES)
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To: MJY1288

NY Slimes - all the spin DNC needs


5 posted on 10/09/2004 8:22:01 PM PDT by soccer4life
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To: lowbridge

It was a "pen".....


6 posted on 10/09/2004 8:22:20 PM PDT by macsmind76 ("thou shalt not get away with it!")
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To: jocon307

The NYT's is going crazy trying to keep Kerry from being a loser...

Notice that they finally reviewed "Unfit for Command" and panned it!

BIAS, BIAS, BIAS. Oh, well, like c-BS, the Gray Lady has her own embarrassing problems with the truth. Ha, ha, ha. No one takes the NYT's seriously. Even the libs know it's slanted to the left. Not that the lefties mind that, but it's getting to be a tad obvious and can no longer be considered "the first and last word in news."


7 posted on 10/09/2004 8:22:46 PM PDT by demnomo
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To: jocon307

"This is incredible, this is in the NY TIMES??????!!!!!"

Why are you surprised? The NY Times has had a vendeta against GW since before he was elected.

We need to accept that the press is dominated by dems and say so openly to everyone. Then they will have to defend their actions instead of passing as impartial jurnalists.


8 posted on 10/09/2004 8:24:44 PM PDT by dinok
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To: lowbridge

I think the bulge in Bush's pocket was a copy of "Halliburton's Secret Plan to Draft Every Child Into A War For Oil So We Don't Have To Fund After School Programs And Can Continue To Destroy The Environment By Turning Our Backs On Our Traditional Allies In The International Community While Ignoring The Scientific Benefits Of Embreyonic Stem Cell Research" by Karl Rove, published by Fox News.


9 posted on 10/09/2004 8:24:56 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Visualize Smaller Government)
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To: lowbridge

The NY Times and the entire MSM, insults the intelligence of everyone in America,with the exception of idiots of course.


10 posted on 10/09/2004 8:25:18 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (All US wars=one million dead-Democrat's war on the unborn=44 million dead and no exit strategy.)
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To: lowbridge

Bush wears Kevlar at the debates. You can't trust the TV networks to screen their people.


11 posted on 10/09/2004 8:25:31 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: demnomo
You know maybe when comparing the Bush to Kerry bush is more muscular than that bean pole kerry.
12 posted on 10/09/2004 8:25:56 PM PDT by LittleJohnnyEdwards (John Kerry the man who would give are security to France)
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To: lowbridge

Just more desperation, and the continuous manufacturing of news by the leftist media -- and the New Jork Times is one of the worst. This is a classic example of what journalism has degenerated to, now that the liberals have taken it over...like everything else they touch..schools, cities, media, you name it..and we are not talking about it turning into "gold". You fill in the blank.


13 posted on 10/09/2004 8:27:32 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: soccer4life
True! But they have become so desperate lately that they don't even realize how silly they look
15 posted on 10/09/2004 8:28:22 PM PDT by MJY1288 (KERRY SAYS WE MUST PASS A GLOBAL TEST IN ORDER TO DEFEND OURSELVES)
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To: lowbridge
I recall that theory all over the internet about the possibility of the photo being doctored, but I don't recall Bush or the Bush campaign ever being the ones making that claim. Anyone got a link, a quote, or is the NY Times just blowing biased smoke into our eyes?

It's called a "strawman," and if you take that away from the libruls, they don't have much else.

16 posted on 10/09/2004 8:28:37 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Gibtx

YOURS was MY reaction also....he's wearing a bullet proof vest, you idgits!!!! SHEESH.


17 posted on 10/09/2004 8:29:21 PM PDT by goodnesswins (PRAVDA Means "Truth" in Russian...kinda like NY TIMES Means "News" in English.)
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To: macsmind76

Yeah, it was obviously a pen.


18 posted on 10/09/2004 8:29:41 PM PDT by Imperialist
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To: goodnesswins
OOPS.....Well, then I SAW THIS from the White House....."Nor was the bulge from a bulletproof vest, according to campaign and White House officials; they said Mr. Bush was not wearing one."
19 posted on 10/09/2004 8:32:15 PM PDT by goodnesswins (PRAVDA Means "Truth" in Russian...kinda like NY TIMES Means "News" in English.)
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To: lowbridge

Oh yeah, everyone knows just how quick Bush was with the answers during the first debate. What a bunch of morons.


20 posted on 10/09/2004 8:32:18 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: lowbridge

I saw a thread that was started about the Libs saying it was a hidden radio receiver. Seveal FR's offered the suggestion that the photos might have been doctored.


21 posted on 10/09/2004 8:32:24 PM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: nonkultur

I don't understand why the Bush campaign just doesn't say it's a vest. Do they not want anyone to know he wears one? And wouldn't Kerry be wearing one also? Tucker Eskew say in no uncertain terms that it is not a kevlar vest on MSNBC the other night.


22 posted on 10/09/2004 8:33:01 PM PDT by Dans Friend
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To: goodnesswins

The whitehouse said the pres was not wearing a bp-jacket.


23 posted on 10/09/2004 8:33:11 PM PDT by al_again
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To: lowbridge

It's the handle of the knife that the rats have stuck in the only guy fighting for our safety.

But, don't consider that a challenge to their patriotism.


24 posted on 10/09/2004 8:34:32 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: MJY1288
Considering it didn't help much, I doubt it will be front page stuff

Exactly.

25 posted on 10/09/2004 8:34:53 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: WildTurkey

And it is supposedly visible in tv shots as well as the still photo. According to NY Times - take it for what it is worth.


26 posted on 10/09/2004 8:35:32 PM PDT by al_again
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To: lowbridge
Didn't kerri pull something out of his jacket inconspicuously at the start of the debate??? Why isn't this an issue??
27 posted on 10/09/2004 8:36:19 PM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: Dans Friend

Why announce this to would be assasins? "Make sure you do a head shot."


28 posted on 10/09/2004 8:37:11 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: God luvs America

Do you really need to ask???


29 posted on 10/09/2004 8:37:37 PM PDT by al_again
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To: lowbridge

The deterioration of the NY Times is actually quite sad. It's been one of the great American institutions, but the libs running it today are taking it right into the toilet. Pathetic.


30 posted on 10/09/2004 8:37:57 PM PDT by midftfan
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To: Question Liberal Authority

LOL-may I borrow this?


31 posted on 10/09/2004 8:39:18 PM PDT by sandlady
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To: lowbridge

More overwhelming stupidity. IT IS HIS BODY ARMOUR YOU STUPID LIBERAL IDIOTS!!!!!!!!


32 posted on 10/09/2004 8:42:12 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: John O

Hilarious ping! It's called a vest!


33 posted on 10/09/2004 8:43:43 PM PDT by andie74 (W stands for Women)
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To: lowbridge

And they expect the President and the White House to give a detailed explanation on what is protecting the President's life? Are these people stupid or are they trying to put his life in danger? Morons!


34 posted on 10/09/2004 8:43:47 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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Okay, I have never posted a news story so I am going to take my frustrations here. I just heard a newscaster on the radio say that Kerry has actually and for real accused the Bush administration of causing the flue shot shortage!! I could SCREAM!! He has got to be totally nuts, or I have never seen anyone that desperate!


35 posted on 10/09/2004 8:44:15 PM PDT by LUV W (WE will not waver;WE will not tire;WE will not falter!)
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To: lowbridge

I saved the pic, blew it up on image viewer, the bigger it got the more it just looked like a wrinkle in the jacket. The bigger the pic gets the more it seems to smooth out.


36 posted on 10/09/2004 8:44:23 PM PDT by hipaatwo
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None of you are of much help. I did NOT ask what was under Bush's jacket. I am asking if Bush or the Bush campaign made the claim that the photo was doctored.


37 posted on 10/09/2004 8:44:55 PM PDT by lowbridge (I wouldn't want to be a liberals caps lock key on election day)
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To: lowbridge

I don't know about this, but there was just an announcement for one of our local TV news programs stating the Bush campaign is reacting to the accusation of the President wearing a wire during the first debate. First I've heard of this one.


38 posted on 10/09/2004 8:45:36 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: mupcat

Ha-Ha--if he WAS wearing a wire during the first debate,it sure didn't help him much! They are probably trying to deflect the fact that KERRY was wearing one during both debates!


39 posted on 10/09/2004 8:47:49 PM PDT by LUV W (WE will not waver;WE will not tire;WE will not falter!)
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To: lowbridge

The "Gray Lady" is turning out the be the DNC's latest Monica.


40 posted on 10/09/2004 8:47:56 PM PDT by StarfireIV
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To: nonkultur

OK, thanks. That makes sense. I hadn't thought about that way.


41 posted on 10/09/2004 8:48:32 PM PDT by Dans Friend
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To: mupcat
don't know about this, but there was just an announcement for one of our local TV news programs stating the Bush campaign is reacting to the accusation of the President wearing a wire during the first debate. First I've heard of this one.

Me too. You must be watching Liar Liar on Channel 7 too, huh? One of my favorite movies!

42 posted on 10/09/2004 8:48:41 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (I'm L.N. Smithee and I approved this message)
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To: StarfireIV

...and Kerry is the cigar!!!!!


43 posted on 10/09/2004 8:48:46 PM PDT by LUV W (WE will not waver;WE will not tire;WE will not falter!)
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To: StarfireIV
The "Gray Lady" is turning out the be the DNC's latest Monica.

Ooooh...Good one!

44 posted on 10/09/2004 8:50:29 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (I'm L.N. Smithee and I approved this message)
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To: lowbridge

anyone???


45 posted on 10/09/2004 8:51:12 PM PDT by lowbridge (I wouldn't want to be a liberals caps lock key on election day)
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To: Gibtx
it is called a flack jacket...... it is his body armor ..... jezz

I didnt ask what was under his jacket.

46 posted on 10/09/2004 8:52:35 PM PDT by lowbridge (I wouldn't want to be a liberals caps lock key on election day)
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To: jocon307
I heard it was the bullet proof vest.

I didnt ask what was under his jacket.

47 posted on 10/09/2004 8:53:31 PM PDT by lowbridge (I wouldn't want to be a liberals caps lock key on election day)
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To: macsmind76
It was a "pen".....

I did not ask what was under his jacket.

48 posted on 10/09/2004 8:54:23 PM PDT by lowbridge (I wouldn't want to be a liberals caps lock key on election day)
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To: lowbridge

Hey, lowbridge ... did you ask what was under his jacket?


49 posted on 10/09/2004 8:56:15 PM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: demnomo

The descent to the gutter...Former Grsy lady now known as gray whore.


50 posted on 10/09/2004 8:56:22 PM PDT by hershey
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