Bush higher SAT score than John Kerry (vanity)

Freedictionary ^ | 10-9-2004 | Me

[SideoutFred]

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/List%20of%20people%20by%20SAT%20score

Bush 1206 Kerry 1190

:rollin

Here is what we also know from New Yorker Magazine and UPI in articles from January of 2004.

-- Bush's SAT scores are higher than Bill Bradley's, Paul Wellstone's, and John Kerry's.

-- Bush scored a 1206 on his SAT, 566 of 800 on verbal and 640 of 800 on math. [Since the SAT's scale has since been "recentered," Bush's score is more like a 1300 today.]

-- Bush's verbal score would place him between the 84th and 92nd percentile of college-bound students, or the 93rd to 97th percentile of ALL high-school seniors taking the exams, the percentile usually used.

-- His math score would also place him between the 84th and 92nd percentile of college-bound students, or the 94th to 98th percentile of ALL high-school seniors taking the exams, the percentile usually used.

-- Using one method to extract IQ's from these SAT scores, Bush's IQ would be somewhere between 124 and 137. Hardly a dunce, that's at least in the top six percent of Americans.

-- We all hear of Bush's supposed college mediocrity, but in reality his "worst" courses were two C-minus scores. Accounting for grade inflation, Bush's worst grades are around today's B-minuses.

Recentered SAT: 1300 IQ: 124-137 Stupid: Definately not.

[SideoutFred]

Others have claimed that Kerry refuses to release his SAT scores. Of course, we all know if they were higher than Bush's, he would have released them. Gore's scores were higher and he released them in 2000.

[Paradox]

Bush is a smart guy, he just has a problem speaking at times. Not too toot my own horn, but I am something like that, with an estimated (via SAT and GRE scores) IQ of 135, but when I get nervous, I come across like a total idiot. At my best, I am not nearly as good as Bush when he is on the campaign trail..

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Hah!

Take that---- you DemonicRats!!!

[Vision]

Love it

[Publius6961]

The most often misspelled word in Free Republic: "definitely"

[commish]

Hehe -- I spanked both of them --- 1550 -- 730 Math 720 Verbal.

[Tribune7]

The SAT tests knowledge,

It's meant to test learning ability -- at least it used to.

[justshutupandtakeit]

It tests Aptitude which is similiar to IQ.

If I'm so smart why ain't I prez? :^(

[Paradox]

Just wondering how one would extract an IQ from an SAT score. The SAT tests knowledge, not intelligence. Using an IQ test or an LSAT test, I could see... Not sure how they do it with SAT tests. Anyone know?

I read somewhere that they compared IQ test results with SAT and GRE score results from the same person, over a number of individuals, and very roughly, your IQ can be estimated as 1/10 of your SAT or GRE scores (PRE "re-centered" scores, I think those are scores from before 1995. Post 1995 scores should be adjusted first to pre 1995 scores).

Here, check this link out

[SideoutFred]

Not entirely sure, but this might be part of the answer:

"Linda Gottfredson, co-director of the University of Delaware-Johns Hopkins Project for the Study of Intelligence and Society, told United Press International: "I recently converted Bush's SAT score to an IQ using the high school norms available for his age cohort. Educational Testing Service happened to have done a study of representative high school students within a year or so of when he took the test. I derived an IQ of 125, which is the 95th percentile." In other words, only one out of 20 people would score higher.

Another IQ expert, Charles Murray of the American Enterprise Institute, the co-author of the bestseller "The Bell Curve," came up with a similar result when asked by UPI. Noting that everybody except high school dropouts takes the PSAT when they are sophomores, Murray calculated from PSAT scores that "I think you're safe in saying that Dubya's IQ, based on his SAT score, is in excess of 120, which puts him the top 10 percent of the distribution, but I wouldn't try to be more precise than that."

It's from a UPI article from January of 2004. Written by Steve Sailer

[Old Professer]

Beats me. My I.Q. is 145 and I just borrowed $120,000 on a $105,000 "post-war afterbirth" and wrote over $7,000 in checks to put a new roof on a severely gravitationally-challenged exercise in "bootstrap architecture" while my future eartnings could be measured in devalued Argentinian pesos, so who am I to judge?

[fizziwig]

"estimated (via SAT and GRE scores) IQ of 135, but when I get nervous, I come across like a total idiot"

I find that a bit of a paradox.

[SideoutFred]

What subject do smart people struggle with the most?

Spelling :)

[Xcoastie]

Hehe -- I spanked both of them --- 1550 -- 730 Math 720 Verbal

My math is a bit weak, but doesn't that add up to 1450?

[July 4th]

I think it can be roughly done, particularly from older tests when the questions were more geared towards reasoning than knowledge. Even the analogies questions are being removed from the modern SAT, and those are very similar to questions used on some IQ tests.

But yes, the LSAT is a much better exam for that sort of thing. A high enough LSAT score will qualify you for Mensa, as the LSAT is mostly a reasoning-based test. (The logic games are a b-tch.) An old SAT score can also qualify you for Mensa.

http://www.us.mensa.org/join_mensa/testscores.php3

[SideoutFred]

I would say your math is dead on. 1600 is the max score possible. 1550 would be fairly outrageous (not impossible).

Nevertheless, 1450 is nothing to be ashamed of. I was in the low 1200's.

[Johnnyboy2000]

This is idiotic.

[Old Professer]

Okay, I give up; my keyboard has been infested with gremlins from Hell, "earntings" is earnings; why do I even bother?