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Tammy Bruce comments on Fox News Oct 11
Fox News Channel | October 11, 2004 | Tammy Bruce

Posted on 10/11/2004 8:06:45 AM PDT by THJNewYorkCity

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To: camboianchristmas

I do not know what G is, and I've seen no discussion of it.

For the most part, liberals see Iraq as another Vietnam, and conservatives tend to see it, and the WOT in general, as a replay of WWII.

My point is that the WOT is potentially both and neither. The very process of deciding whether to categorize it as A or B limits creative thought about how to respond appropriately.

Invading, conquering and occupying countries as in WWII does not seem to be a valid response, and arresting individuals doesn't either. Yet the discussion seems to switch back and forth between these two options as if they are the only ones imaginable.


41 posted on 10/11/2004 9:53:29 AM PDT by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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To: Poincare
Some time ago radio (vast right wing....) was playing a clip of Ta RAY za saying to Larry King that Americans should learn to tolerate the nuisance of terrorism like the Europeans do.

Yeah it was such a nuisance to the office workers in the WTC to have planes flying into their building. We aren't the Europeans and thank goodness for that. We act decisively. We don't take the easy way out or appease our enemies...we confront them. That's what makes us Americans. Proud Americans.
42 posted on 10/11/2004 10:00:01 AM PDT by JayNorth
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To: Restorer

I understand your argument that our government should look for other options as well to deal with the war on terror. But you seem to forget one important aspect to the "occupying of countries" approach and that is the necessary spread of democracy in the middle east. This has a two-pronged tactic; one, to liberate the people and give them the satisfaction that only true freedom can bring and two, to create pockets of US friendly-democratic regions who will in turn become allies in the war on terror. Spreading democracy and a free-market society to other countries give us shared values and interests that could potentially lead to a lessening of animosities and burgeoning mutual tolerance.


43 posted on 10/11/2004 10:10:20 AM PDT by camboianchristmas (when two or more or gathered in His name...great things happen)
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To: camboianchristmas

Our occupying countries will not necessarily bring them to a democracy. And a true democracy is not necessarily friendly to the US and may not even have a true civil society. In 1938 had Hitler allowed a free election, he would probably have won an absolute minimum of 75% of the vote.

Democracy has been described as two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.


44 posted on 10/11/2004 10:25:40 AM PDT by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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To: Restorer
We can get into long discussions over the definition of a democracy-but that is moot. Let's just call it a free representative government that guarantees free-market enterprise. Is there any example of a free, capitalist country warring with another?
45 posted on 10/11/2004 11:43:11 AM PDT by camboianchristmas (when two or more or gathered in His name...great things happen)
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To: camboianchristmas
Is there any example of a free, capitalist country warring with another?

Historically speaking, o.n

46 posted on 10/11/2004 12:49:54 PM PDT by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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To: Restorer

Make that a "no."

Although Imperial Germany was a semi-capitalistic and semi-democratic country when it went to war with France and Britain.


47 posted on 10/11/2004 1:13:04 PM PDT by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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To: Restorer

Yeah that was the closest one that I could come up with.


48 posted on 10/12/2004 7:11:38 AM PDT by camboianchristmas (when two or more or gathered in His name...great things happen)
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