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New gangsta trend significantly reduces inner city shooting fatalities
Recoil Magazine ^ | September 2002 | Staff

Posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:49 AM PDT by 45Auto

According to an article published in the September issue of Handguns magazine, a recent decline in fatalities resulting from inner city handgun shootings can be credited to the thriving popularity of a flashy new gangsta-style shooting technique wherein the weapon is canted 180 degrees from its normal upright position. "Hollywood overkill of the sideways gangsta shooting method encouraged many modern hoods to look for a less trendy but equally cool-looking technique for offin' someone,'" wrote freelancer Marian Ayoob in Handguns' September cover story, entitled "Better To Look Good Than To Shoot Good." "Over the last three months, holding a gun completely upside down has become the predominant method used by stylish gangstas whom, as they say, 'be fixin' to put a cap in a [person's] dome.'"

The article went on to reiterate statistics from the National Archive of Criminal Justice Data (NACJD), which documented August 2002 as having the lowest record of shooting fatalities for men between the ages of 17-34 since December 1980.

"The number of gang-related altercations involving gunplay has remained steady, yet the rate of fatalities resulting from these shootings dropped fourteen percent last month," wrote Ayoob. "These statistics clearly indicate that the bullets - of which there are approximately the same number being fired - are not hitting their intended targets."

Ayoob also cited studies by ballistic experts at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, which estimate that employing the unorthodox handgun shooting technique can reduce a subject's short range accuracy by as much as 80 percent.

U of M researchers said that this significant decrease in accuracy results from attempting to shoot the firearm while it is upside down.

"A gangsta utilizing the sideways, ninety-degree shooting method generally experiences only an accuracy loss of roughly twenty percent," said Dr. Keith Marcus of the University of Michigan. "But the shooter loses tremendous accuracy when the gun is turned an additional ninety degrees. With the sideways method you could still use the sights to aim. Upside down, you have to pretty much guesstimate [when aiming]. And having to use your pinky to operate the trigger certainly doesn't help."

Marcus added that a shooter's accuracy is further reduced if the subject is either running from police or trying to look at himself in a mirror while aiming.

Still, Ayoob contends, more and more gangstas are becoming willing to sacrifice accuracy in return for aesthetic rewards.

"What the shooter loses in short and long-range accuracy, and the ability to quickly fire consecutive rounds, he or she more than makes up for in presenting a more 'bad ass' appearance [than using a standard shooting technique]," wrote Ayoob. "Polls indicate that thugs consider 'how you be representin' be just as important as how you be shootin'.'"

Ayoob said that Americans can expect the number of shooting fatalities to continue to drop as the flamboyant attack pose gains further popularity among the public.

"Right now, only gangstas residing in the bigger, more progressive cities are employing the 'one-eighty cock,' as some are calling it," said Ayoob. "As soon as the entertainment media gets wind that holding the gun upside down is the 'wuz-up cuz' cool way to fire off a round, you'll be seeing it in all of the movies and television shows."

Added Ayoob: "Wait until the next Denzel Washington character blasts a cop using the one-eighty cock. Everyone will want to be shooting that way. Morgues across the country will probably have to layoff half of their staffs due to lack of business."


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1 posted on 10/13/2004 9:51:50 AM PDT by 45Auto
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2 posted on 10/13/2004 9:52:40 AM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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3 posted on 10/13/2004 9:53:10 AM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 45Auto

How can you even shoot that way? maybe I just dont have the dexterity.....


4 posted on 10/13/2004 9:55:29 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Rudi Bahktiar is hot!!!! Too bad she works for CNN.....)
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To: 45Auto

Don't know whether to laugh or cry...


5 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:46 AM PDT by Jalapeno
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To: 45Auto

Dis piece is oft dah hook!


6 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:53 AM PDT by RexBeach (Before God makes you greedy, he makes you stupid.)
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To: 45Auto

You really should post a B.S Alert with articles like these in an age when truth can be stranger than fiction.


7 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:57 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: 45Auto

This is a joke, right?


8 posted on 10/13/2004 9:56:57 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: 45Auto
Over the last three months, holding a gun completely upside down has become the predominant method used by stylish gangstas whom, as they say, 'be fixin' to put a cap in a [person's] dome.'"

LOL!!!!!!

9 posted on 10/13/2004 9:57:20 AM PDT by Buford T. Justice
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To: 45Auto

That guy is supposed to be a "gangsta"?


10 posted on 10/13/2004 9:57:23 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: 45Auto

You mean it wasn't because of the assualt weapon's ban. I thought that ended all violence in the street. It also made the country safer from terrorists, and Republicans.


11 posted on 10/13/2004 9:58:39 AM PDT by MeSpikeLibs
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To: 45Auto

Is this a joke?


12 posted on 10/13/2004 9:58:49 AM PDT by jsmith48
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To: 45Auto

13 posted on 10/13/2004 9:59:48 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack ("We deal in hard calibers and hot lead." - Roland Deschaines)
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To: RexBeach

Maan, dat‘s out de DO’!


14 posted on 10/13/2004 9:59:55 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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Way too funny!! If someone pointed a gun at me upside down I don't know if I would die from laughter or from the bullet. Luckily gangsta's dont know much about ballistics and I can bet my .40 cor-bons will pack a better punch than what they are packing. Anyone remember "Rhino" ammo? I still have a couple packs of it. Crazy stuff. VERY expensive too.


15 posted on 10/13/2004 10:00:10 AM PDT by Liberalism=MentalDisorder
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To: Jalapeno; 45Auto

laughing, definately laughing

and no one is influenced by hollywood...</sarcasm>


17 posted on 10/13/2004 10:01:03 AM PDT by kiki04 ("If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is a man who has so much as to be out of danger?" - THH)
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To: 45Auto

In warrior culture, it isn't about killing the enemy. It's about being admired for your prowess and valor. It's about building a rep, not body counts.


18 posted on 10/13/2004 10:01:43 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: 45Auto

I had actually heard that the knuckles-up [like knuckle-head?] shooting position was supposed to be more instinctive, because that's how most people point when they don't have a pistol in their hand. It would make using the sights more-or-less impossible, but for point-blank shooting either one probably wouldn't matter. I don't believe it's any better than at least taking the time to pick up the front sight. What I want to know is how gansta's keep those cheap little 9mm and .25's working without cleaning them. I want an article on how to maintain your Saturday night special so that if you toss it in a storm sewer someone can fish it out a week later and still shoot it.


19 posted on 10/13/2004 10:02:42 AM PDT by NYFriend
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To: 45Auto
Hopefully the next gangsta marksmanship trend will be with the muzzle end pointed back between the shooter's eyes.

If this article is a joke, it's an old one...September 2002.

20 posted on 10/13/2004 10:03:00 AM PDT by AngryJawa (Happiness Is A Silent Blissninny)
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To: 45Auto
I would like to register my outrage at this story.

NO ONE, I repeat, NO ONE; should ever take any action to correct the poor shooting skills of the "gangsta" element. Even pointing it out in a national publication works provides an opportunity for "gangsta" to read and learn. The last thing we need is the criminal element being able to shoot with greater effectiveness.

IMHO

21 posted on 10/13/2004 10:03:26 AM PDT by Dogrobber
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To: 45Auto
While there is a Keith Marcus at UofM, he is a medical student in otolaryngology and not likely someone who'd be giving interviews about ballistics or gunshot wounds.

While just about every serious firearms carrier has heard of Massad Ayoob and his Lethal Force Institute, I've never heard of, or read anything by, Marian Ayoob. A relative?

There is no doubt that this "style" does nothing for the Bad Guys' accuracy. But this story smells odd...

23 posted on 10/13/2004 10:04:07 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: 45Auto
They even make special sights for shooting this way...

Learn more at Birdman Weapons Systems

Their Nuke 50 is a must have.

24 posted on 10/13/2004 10:05:02 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Dogrobber

That was with the sarcasm tag, doncha know


25 posted on 10/13/2004 10:05:21 AM PDT by Dogrobber
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To: NYFriend
Hey, off the subject, but anyone remember brushing sealer on your primers?
26 posted on 10/13/2004 10:06:15 AM PDT by NYFriend
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To: jwfiv

REAL good laugh, over here.


27 posted on 10/13/2004 10:07:21 AM PDT by Serb5150 (Look at me! I don't need subtitles!)
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To: 45Auto

This downward trend will be reversed if Kerry/Edwards are elected! In Cincinnati, last week, Edwards promised that he'd provide extensive marksmanship traing to unemployedd inner city youths if he is elected. There was a little controversy when the dems showed a range with targets dressed in what appeared to be police uniforms. But, they gots to pander to the black voters!


28 posted on 10/13/2004 10:10:30 AM PDT by Tacis (When Kerry Farts, You Can Hear McAuliffe's Voice And Smell Lockhart's Breath!)
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To: 45Auto
Can you say...
"Couldnt hit the broad side of a barn!"
OR...
"Couldnt hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle!"

Maybe they need to recite this while they take aim?

Who knows? It seemed to help in the book! hehehe

I do not aim with my hand.
He who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I aim with my Eye.
I do not shoot with my hand.
He who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I shoot with my Mind.
I do not kill with my hand.
He who kills with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I kill with my Heart."
Or...after running it thru the 'translator'!
I do not aim wiff muh ma f__kin hand.
You be aimin wiff his hand has forgotten da face o' his daddy.
I aim wiff muh ma f__kin Eye.
I do not smoke wiff muh ma f__kin hand.
He who be aimin wiff his hand has forgotten da face o' his pappy.
I smoke wiff muh ma f__kin Mind.
I do not kill wiff muh ma f__kin hand.
He be killin wiff his hand has forgotten da face o' his old man.
I kill wiff muh ma f__kin Heart an dat boil on mah ass.

29 posted on 10/13/2004 10:10:32 AM PDT by 45semi (Man has only those rights he can defend...)
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To: 45Auto

Follow up shots must be tough, after the slide takes a chunk out of your hand.


30 posted on 10/13/2004 10:14:31 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't blame me - I voted for McClintock!)
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I was under the impression that the reading skills of these fellas are less than optimal....


31 posted on 10/13/2004 10:14:54 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: 45Auto
... a flashy new gangsta-style shooting technique wherein the weapon is canted 180 degrees from its normal upright position.

Shoot. I thought at first they meant 180 degrees the other way. Ha ha ha. This would cut down on murders.
32 posted on 10/13/2004 10:20:09 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: MikeinIraq
How can you even shoot that way? maybe I just dont have the dexterity.....

It can be done, and I'm sure you'd be able to do it. I allow my students to try it for the experience, because you never know when you'll have to fire from an odd position. The slide bite can be a trip if you aren't careful - but in a life-and-death situation, you'd probably never even notice. It's definitely not a first choice for self-defense purposes, though.

33 posted on 10/13/2004 10:24:01 AM PDT by dbwz (Self-Defense is a Basic Human Right -- 2asisters.org)
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To: 45semi
do not aim wiff muh ma f__kin hand. You be aimin wiff his hand has forgotten da face o' his daddy. I aim wiff muh ma f__kin Eye. I do not smoke wiff muh ma f__kin hand. He who be aimin wiff his hand has forgotten da face o' his pappy. I smoke wiff muh ma f__kin Mind. I do not kill wiff muh ma f__kin hand. He be killin wiff his hand has forgotten da face o' his old man. I kill wiff muh ma f__kin Heart an dat boil on mah ass.

That is without a doubt, the funniest thing i have read in awhile! :) Stephen King / Gunslinger series is great.

34 posted on 10/13/2004 10:27:35 AM PDT by Living_the_life_of_Dilbert
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"Draw...."

35 posted on 10/13/2004 10:28:53 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (I FINALLY updated my FReeper page! Click on my name and see how you can help our President!)
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To: 45Auto

self ping


36 posted on 10/13/2004 10:29:58 AM PDT by lesser_satan
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To: 45Auto

Now all they need to do is turn the handgun 180 degrees in the horizontal plane and not only will they be lookin' cool, they will be doing society a tremendous service.


37 posted on 10/13/2004 10:33:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: 45Auto
COOL!:



I'll print that out as a target, and tack 'im up at 15 yards at the IPPC range. Only I'll hold my pistolla right-side up, old fuddy that I am.

Are you sure this article wasn't by MASSADD AYOOB, well-known Gun-Writer and Honcho of the Lethal Forces Institute?

38 posted on 10/13/2004 10:34:21 AM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Vigilance!)
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To: 45Auto

I would be afraid of shooting myself holding the piecelike that, gotta treat that girl right and hold er upright!!


39 posted on 10/13/2004 10:55:19 AM PDT by erik22lax
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To: MikeinIraq

gangstas are idiots....case closed.
The Capt.


40 posted on 10/13/2004 10:59:37 AM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: 45Auto

Forget all about that holding your pistol upside down or sideways - this is what you need to do...

THE MOZAMBIQUE TWO-STEP
Believed to have been originated by Jim Sorrentino, et. al.
at Gunsite.
Sung to the tune of "Dominique"

CHORUS:

Mozambique him, Mozambique him,
If he fails to hit the ground
After two well-placed rounds!
Shoot between the eyes and lips,
No, NOT between the hips,
That should put the goblin down!

VERSE:

With your sights on center chest
Twice you your trigger you have pressed.
If two don't stop the fight,
A head-shot should set it right!

CHORUS

VERSE:

It is best to use a slug
Big enough to stop a thug.
Calibers that start with four
Will better drop them to the floor!

CHORUS

VERSE:

Stop this talk of "failure drills",
For it denigrates our skills.
Failure is a word so bleak,
But I rejoice at "MOZAMBIQUE"!

CHORUS

ADDITIONAL VERSE

In full evening dress you stroll
when accosted by a troll
who seizes your maiden fair.
Three quick shots to save the day,
reload, press-check, you're on your way,
and you've scarcely mussed a hair.

ADDITIONAL VERSE

Mozambique the bloody creep!
For he's been breathing far too long
and you must shut him down.
There's only one way to construe
the way he points that gun at you.
The time to act is now.

or maybe, for the second part of the above

'Tis unmitigated act
that you need now and that's a fact.
Thank Heaven you know how!

http://home.sprynet.com/~frfrog/mozam.htm


41 posted on 10/13/2004 11:01:41 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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gangstas are idiots....case closed.
The Capt.


42 posted on 10/13/2004 11:02:17 AM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike (get outta my pocket, outta my car, and outta the schools)
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To: 45Auto

Please excuse my vulgarity, but that's f'n-assed stupid. Since I pay less than zero attention to rap and so-called black street "music" of any kind, I thought the sideways gun grip was a fan Hollywood invented. Shows me Hollywood types are even more stupid than I thought, since they copied an idiotic fad from people who are essentially street thugs. And these people want us to pay attention to their political views?!!!


43 posted on 10/13/2004 11:04:58 AM PDT by Wolfstar (John Kerry may trust the enemies of America, but the American people just can't trust John Kerry.)
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To: 45Auto
this does not surprise at all.
44 posted on 10/13/2004 11:08:27 AM PDT by ezoeni
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To: NYFriend
I had actually heard that the knuckles-up [like knuckle-head?] shooting position was supposed to be more instinctive

Well, there's "instinctive" and then there's "gangsta"...

Canting my pistol about 30 degrees inward while not fully locking the elbow has worked very well for me in both speed and accuracy. It helps soak up recoil as well as providing a steady platform.

45 posted on 10/13/2004 11:23:17 AM PDT by AngryJawa (Happiness Is A Silent Blissninny)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Hamburger Helper glove slays Arby's oven mitt in handgun duel:


46 posted on 10/13/2004 11:23:48 AM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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Hamburger Helper glove slays Arby's oven mitt in handgun duel:


47 posted on 10/13/2004 11:25:54 AM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 45Auto
That's why they are not rocket scientists. How stupid can they get?

This screams, "Shoot me, copper!"

48 posted on 10/13/2004 11:35:54 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Used to be sciencediet but found the solution)
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To: Jalapeno
Don't know whether to laugh or cry...

My thoughts as well............

49 posted on 10/13/2004 11:43:07 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: Lady Jag

Guess I should have tagged this as satire.....


50 posted on 10/13/2004 11:48:22 AM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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