"He lives in Trenton? Hmmmm...is he a hottie?"
Posted on 10/14/2004 4:02:53 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — A senior al-Qaida operative lived in New Jersey and posed as a student while conducting surveillance of financial institutions as possible targets for a terror attack, according to a published report.
The operative, identified by U.S. officials in Washington as Dhiren Barot, 32, entered the United States on a student visa, The Record of Bergen County reported in Thursday's editions.
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Just ANOTHER reason to BAN foreign students from American schools. You ain't a CITIZEN, hit the road scumbag.
John Kerry is worried about the size of his Pell grant...
There is just to much money (illegal)involved in this industry to shut it down.
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"He lives in Trenton? Hmmmm...is he a hottie?"
Make your post worthwhile. This too much a wee bit is just cheerleading of some sort. Idle and wasted.
Just because the idiot tyrants on our court's benches force us to excerpt does NOT mean we can not rewrite! You must. We must. I do when I post excerpted articles. Otherwise don't bother posting such a tease of no information. Why bother?
If you feel this was worthwhile enough to spend the time on to note and to post, well make it so for the rest of us.
send him over for an INTERVIEW
Thank God Britain was on its toes:
Authorities believe Barot was dispatched by Osama bin Laden himself to conduct the scouting mission in New Jersey, the newspaper reported. Barot was arrested by British authorities in August and remains in custody there.
The British say Barot had reconnaissance reports for the Prudential building in Newark, the New York Stock Exchange and the Citigroup building in Manhattan and the International Monetary Fund headquarters in Washington.
Discovery of those surveys led U.S. Homeland Security officials to declare an orange alert in early August and prompted heightened security measures at the buildings. Authorities later concluded that the buildings were not under imminent threat of attack.
The Record, citing "an official familiar with the matter," said the al-Qaida survey on the Prudential building contained minutely detailed information, including an observation that a van carrying explosives probably would not fit into its underground parking garage. The report recommended using limousines instead.
It also contained a listing of potential getaway routes to be used after an attack. One notation said using the PATH commuter rail system was an option, but cautioned that exact fare should be carried for use at its automatic turnstiles to speed a getaway, the unnamed official said.
U.S. counterterrorism officials believe Barot authored the reports, which were written in fluent English. They describe surveillance operations during 2000 and 2001.
major bump
Then immigration or as it is known now Customs and Border Protection admits the visa holder into the U.S. to "study".
"...until we have a catostrophic loss of life."
But we already had that. Those 19 guys weren't here legally, they were visa overstayers, sneak-ins, etc. Nothing has changed, Bush just made things worse with his thinly veiled promise of a future amnesty. We should have closed the borders on 9/11 and starting rounding up illegals on 9/12, but we missed that chance.
It seems many of the Arab students are well into their 30's. You have to wonder about that --- why aren't they having to work for a living? Who or what pays their way and why?
I can pretty much guarantee that the New Jersey Institute of Technology is one of the schools involved . . . 1) it is located in Newark, and it has a foreigner/citizen student ratio of about 15:1.
Accdg to the article, he was here conducting his surveillance in 2000 and 2001, then left. There have been some changes, but no where near enough.
Student visa restrictions have hit higher ed right in the gonads. It's a big issue with some universities here in the US, which have become too dependent on the big $$ they receive in non-resident tuition, and are now facing tough competition from schools in Great Britain and Australia. Makes me wonder how many colleges here are letting international students slip in under the door just to keep their numbers up.
Was that you that made the "piss on Clinton's grave I hope he dies" statement or something to that effect on the other thread? You were wrong there and are wrong here. We need much stricter and more diligent background checks of all international students, but certainly not to ban them.
I am excellent friends with many students from China, Turkey, Korea, Italy, Canada, India, and other countries, and while we might not share all of the same political views, they will return to their country with a high opinion of America. They will also be in positions of importance and command respect, having obtained PhD's from one of the best schools in the world, which will make their opinions all the more valued.
The reason people vote for idiots like Kerry and Nader is because they are un-informed, i.e. under-educated about what's going on. Spreading higher education throughout the world will only work to America's benefit. Denying it to good people will only hurt us. It is well within our ability to examine who we let in and deny entrance to the murderers.
I'm guessing possibly Rutgers too.
Foreign students are big money. They pay full tuition. With more than half the students at private colleges getting some sort of financial aid the universities will do anything to keep them here.
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http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/firstglance/index.ssf?/base/news-0/109772940170940.xml
Probers retrace terror suspect's moves in N.J.
Thursday, October 14, 2004
BY DUNSTAN McNICHOL
Star-Ledger Staff
State and federal investigators are scouring northern New Jersey and New York in an attempt to reconstruct the activities of an alleged al Qaeda operative charged with conducting surveillance of Newark's Prudential building in the months before the 9/11 attacks, the FBI's special agent in charge for New Jersey said yesterday.
FBI Special Agent Joseph Billy said Dhiren Barot, a suspected terrorist plotter who was arrested in London in early August, "was here in New Jersey legitimately and spent time here in New Jersey. He was low-key."
Barot has been charged with a series of terror counts, including conspiring to use radioactive materials against the public and possessing, since February 2001, reconnaissance plans of the Prudential building in Newark and other financial landmarks.
The Prudential building, the Citigroup building in New York and other financial institutions have been under heightened security alert since early August after investigators in Pakistan found the surveillance information. Barot and seven others were arrested Aug. 3.
Billy made his comments at the kickoff of a seminar in Trenton to brief local police officers about the current state of the terrorist threat in New Jersey. He told the 150 law enforcement officials gathered at the seminar that the Prudential surveillance conducted by Barot was a genuine threat.
"That was the real deal," he said. "That was discovered on a Qaeda operative. He had packaged the information and had forwarded it to his supervisor."
Billy said investigators are interviewing landlords and others who might have encountered Barot while he spent time in this country as a college student in 2000 and 2001. Their goal, he said, is to determine whether any associates of Barot's may remain in the metropolitan area, poised to conduct attacks.
In England, Barot and one of the other men arrested, Nadeem Tarmohammed, are charged with possessing "a document or record, namely a reconnaissance plan concerning the Prudential building in New Jersey, containing information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism."
Barot also was charged with possessing two notebooks containing "information on explosives, poisons, chemicals and related matters." The final report of the 9/11 commission states that interrogation of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, revealed Barot was sent to the New York area in early 2001 to do surveillance on possible economic and "Jewish" targets in New York.
Yesterday's seminar was designed to beef up the "front-line" of counterterrorism efforts by alerting local law enforcement officials to what sorts of suspicious activities they should be looking for and how to make sure information they uncover is widely distributed.
As an example, Billy noted the recent information state officials passed to Franklinville and Rumson school officials after data about their schools were found on computers in Iraq. He said there did not appear to be a threat aimed at the schools, but he wanted to make sure local officials had not seen any suspicious activity.
Billy, State Attorney General Peter Harvey, Director of the New Jersey Office of Counter-Terrorism Sidney J. Caspersen and others said that by staying vigilant to evidence of budding terrorist projects, local law enforcement agents can head off attacks. He said officials should be alert for attacks conducted to influence the upcoming presidential elections.
"We know they have the intent to do it," he said. "The question is whether they have the capability."
Thanks for the Star Ledger link. I meant to ping you and a few others on this but I posted this right before I headed out this a.m.
No problem! Sub drive pinged me :) Thanks.
He is more commonly known as al-Hindi. He is an Indian convert to Islam who originally found fame by write a book on Jihad which is seen as being the pre-eminent "how-to" book on terrorism.
He was the leader of the cell which spied on NYC landmarks. When the cell was rounded up the had books and materials for a WMD attack.
That's what I was thinking! Why are all these students well into their adult years?
I wonder if he had any meetings with Jim McGreedy or Senator Corzine (his name still sounds like a bad medicine).
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>>>When the cell was rounded up the had books and materials for a WMD attack.
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Barot and seven others are due to make a first court appearance Wednesday at Belmarsh high security prison in London
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British police have identified the other seven suspects as Mohammed Naveed Bhatti, 24; Abdul Aziz Jalil, 31; Omar Abdul Rehman, 20; Junade Feroze, 28; Zia ul Haq, 25; Qaisar Shaffi, 25; and Nadeem Tarmohammed, 26.
The eight were accused of conspiring together and with unknown persons to commit murder, and conspiracy to commit public nuisance by the use of radioactive materials, toxic gases, chemicals and/or explosives.
Barot was reportedly sent to the United States several times in 2000 and 2001 by 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to case landmarks before the 9/11 attack.
Some reports say he traveled to Pakistan as recently as early this year to meet with Pakistani computer expert Mohammed Naeem Noor Khan to plot further attacks.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/818941.cms
I sure hope we got him in time.
http://www.saag.org/papers11/paper1100.html
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10. The Hindu convert to Islam is Dhiren Barot, 32, also known as (aka) Bilal aka Abu Musa al-Hindi aka Abu Eissa al-Hindi. He is reportedly the son of Manubhai Barot and BhartiyabenThe other suspects are Abdul Aziz Jalil, 31, Omar Abdur Rehman, 20, Zia Ul Haq, 25, Nadeem Tarmohamed, 26, Mohammed Naveed Bhatti, 24, Quaisir Shaffi, 25 and Junade Feroze, 28.
11.After his arrest and preliminary interrogation, Dhiren Barot, who reportedly embraced Islam in 1992, has been projected in some reports as a leading Al Qaeda operative of the UK and in some others as the head of Al Qaeda set-up in the UK.It has also been stated that Barot alias Bilal is none other than al-Britani mentioned by KSM during his interrogation. and that he had been visiting the tribal areas near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border as well as J&K .
12. He has been charged by the British authorities with the following offences:
Conspiracy to murder.
Conspiracy to commit a public nuisance by the use of radioactive materials, toxic gases, chemicals and or explosives.
Possessing a reconnaissance plan of the Prudential Building in New Jersey.
Possessing reconnaissance plans of the International Monetary Fund in Washington, the stock exchange and Citigroup, both in New York, and two notebooks with information on explosives,
13.U.S. counter terrorism officials have been quoted as claiming that Barot was the author of documents, written in fluent English, describing surveillance at U.S. financial buildings during 2000 and 2001, which were found on computers and in e-mails seized during the July raids in Pakistan. The "New York Times" has quoted an unnamed senior US official as saying that the British arrests were part of a global crackdown on Al Qaeda suspects who were "part of this web that emanates from Pakistan". Barot had reportedly travelled to the US with two others for casing economic targets, but the identities of the other two have not yet been established. It is said he was generally using South African and Sudanese passports for his travels
14.Pakistani officials have described Barot as "a veteran of the Islamic militant battle against Indian forces in Kashmir. "He also reportedly travelled in March,2004, to a terrorist hideout near the Pakistan-Afghan border and met with other terrorist suspects. They have also said that Noor Khan, the so-called computer wizard, was in contact with persons in other countries of South Asia. Nepal has been mentioned as one of them.
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Radioactive materials, toxic gases, chemicals, etc==
A NUISANCE???
Is this from the John Kerry handbook of identifying terror threats.....?
Chilling. The part about using the PATH to get away but make sure you have the exact change for the turnstiles shows just how detailed they are in planning.
New Jersey Republicans need to get united and throw the stinking Democrats out of office in this state. I think they truly are the most corrupt of all the dems in the country right now, with the particular exception of Terry McAuliffe, whom I despise.
With New Jersey being the terrorists fave home away from home McGreevy wanted to put his boyfriend (or victim, whatever!) in charge of our security. Now they have rigged it so we are stuck with Mr. Codey for another year, a man elected by such a small number of voters that obviously he will be beholden to no one but the party.
The murder rate is up 19%, anybody doubt the media assault on the state troopers has something to do with that stat?
I for one pledge that if I am still living in this god forsaken state on next election day I will vote for whoever the Republicans run, including Mickey Mouse if necessary. I suggest that everyone else do the same.
Protesters listen as Ashfaq Ahmad (unseen), father of Babar Ahmad who was arrested last week on a warrent issued on behalf of U.S. authorities, speaks at a demonstration in London.
>>>New Jersey Republicans need to get united and throw the stinking Democrats out of office in this state.
I'm united with you. WHAT do we do? That is the million dollar question.
And unless all the subpoenaes of the voter election books and fraud investigations FIX our election polls...our votes, will again, mean nothing.
I hear Bush clearly say his program was NOT AN AMNESTY.
I hear no such "thinly veiled promise of a future amnesty" as you state. You sound like a troll from DU.
Thank you Calpernia.
Update from ABC Eyewitness News Investigation: They may have been operating out of Starbucks
FBI Believes Student was bin Laden Scout
Investigators Say He was Doing Surveillance Here
By Kemberly Richardson
(Newark-WABC, October 14, 2004) — He looked like any student attending college in New Jersey. But in reality, FBI officials believe he was sent here by Osama bin Laden to scout out possible targets for a terrorist attack. Eyewitness News' Kemberly Richardson reports.
Sources tell Eyewitness News they are making headway with this investigation. They say as they canvas the area showing people a picture of Dhiren Barot they are getting confirmation he was here.
He was seen at tourist areas, universities, and perhaps the most unsettling place: Right in front of the Prudential building.
A senior FBI agent tells Eyewitness News a Starbucks Coffee near the Prudential building may have been a perch for an alleged al-Qaeda operative.
Witnesses confirm that Dhiren Barot was seen inside the shop directly across from the building described by authorities as a potential terror target this past summer.
The 32-year-old is being held by British officials, charged with conducting surveillance of the company's Broad Street headquarters and other buildings in our area.
The buildings have been under heightened security since August, when Pakastani police discovered Barot's reports on computers and emails.
Sources say there are references to trash containers at Prudential Plaza, and that Barot paid close attention to vehicles that were being permitted into the area, including Fedex trucks.
Federal officials believe the reconnaisance took place in the months leading up to September 11th, 2001, that Barot was taking orders directly from Osama bin Laden and was well-known to Khalid Sheikh Muhammad, the captured mastermind of the attacks on New York and Washington, D.C.
The FBI says he entered the U.S. on a student visa, and was living in New Jersey. Witnesses have confirmed he was seen at several college campuses in northern New Jersey.
The FBI also tells us Barot had two notebooks containing information about chemicals and explosives and may have been planning to use radioactive material.
A spokesperson for Prudential says they were briefed on all of these details back in August, and have taken appropriate security measure.
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_101404_barot.html
Atta Jr., eh? Wonder what ticked him off into muslim terrorism. Lucky we grabbed KSM.
Thanks to all to add info beyond trite excerpts, btw.
Wonder if he was a meat eater?
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